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O'Cowboy of the Nazerene can you not see where thou hast gone? For indeed thou didst discuss Jesus as the Word... and thou hast missed again the Annointment of Grace and so returned into the past... "Ah, Jesus did not speak the Word. The Word was in the beginning and the Word was God. The Word is not speaking vocal. If the Word was ment as in a vocal word, the Word could not be God. The Word is a name/title. Thus why it is capitalized in the scriptures. It is a proper noun." The Word (in the form of Jesus) has ascended into the Celestial Realms, yea verily into the Heaven of Holiness... Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. By his rising did the Word rise also. By his Advent did the Word become Flesh in you. Yet look O' Cowboy of the Nazerene... You have quoted yourself into the past. Is that not a temporal loop... Christ is risen. Mankind has not. Be as Christ and lift them... Not from the Day of Adam but from this day to Glory. (their journey be not so long from this day). Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. There is no Word in the form of the Cowboy... The Word is not referring to grammar, it is a proper noun, a title, a name. Jesus is the Word. There is no "Word of God", the Word IS God. Jesus does not speak when opens your mouth. You do... When you do so you are the Word in the Flesh and speak the Word as Cowboy. (or do you claim to be Christ Jesus)? The Word is not God. The Word is IN God (as are all things). Again "The Word" is a title of a being, it is not referring to vocal speaking, or even written speaking. It's not referring to vocabulary, it is a name of a being a title. Why is everything a title of a being to you? How is the Word now a being? It can not be so for the Word was made Flesh. Claiming it as a being returns one to Adam of the Begining when the word was in God and Mankind had not yet seen Grace. A Temporal Loop. Something being a "being" doesn't mean it has flesh. We're speaking of a spiritual essence here. The Word was never "in" God. The Word was "with" God and the Word "was" God. But we have no information of the Word being "in" God. And how does that return us to Adam? The Word was before Adam. The Word was with God in the beginning. Mankind was not. Mankind was only with God after mankind was created, but was not in the beginning, only the beginning of mankind, which again was a creation. Returns you to Adam because you cling to Jesus as God. Jesus was annoited and received the Throne in Heaven. He went 'forward' to prepare for us a place. If you cling to him as God you run right into the Stone of Adam. Without Adam Jesus would have not had a Mother. Without the Mother Jesus would have no body and so would not have walked the earth. She Knit that garment. God knit Adam from the Dust of the Earth. No man born of woman existed before Adam. Jesus is not in the Past. He makes echos in your book from the future how then could he be in the past? |
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I didn't read the whole thread, but got the gist of it. The disagreement could, IMO, be found by consulting the work of St Augustine. He addressed every objection that I read through.  I will deepen upon St. Augustine. Thank you. |
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Jesus is not the Tree of Imortality. That Tree has fruit that gives imortality to the physical in the physical. If we continue to climb the Tree of Knowledge we will eventually find the Branch of Imortality in the Physical Realm... (Gods gift is life in this realm). The Soul is already Imortal (we are created the image of God). It exists before we are born in his realm and endures after we leave behind the Material world and all its lures. Jesus is a Guide along the Path to Salvation that we might be close to God in the Realm of the Spirit. Ah, but one will never find immortality less they find Jesus. Life is only granted through Jesus. The soul is immortal. But actions have consequences, and the only reward/consequence for sin is death. Thus Jesus offers forgiveness, strength and guidance. Jesus did not just offer. God gave. At the moment of Resurection the very Heavens changed. Jesus asked... God Gave. All the names of the Tribes of Adam were wiped from the Stone that marks the Path to Hell. Only Satan is written upon that stone. The Tribes of Adam were accorded access to the Heavenly Realms of Old... and Heaven itself expanded to contain the entire human race. Jesus asked... God Gave. If you'll ever notice when Jesus refers to his father, he only ever says HIS God. And when he speaks to us about himself, he says OUR God. O'Cowboy of the Nazerene thou hast picked a nit from the cloth of his garment. (our... yours and mine, his and yours). Hast thou noticed the garment in your search for nits O' Scholar of Ritual? It is the Garment of Grace. Grace comes after Ascension yet before Glory in the Climb of Adam upon the Tree of Life. In this day (while you chase Adam looking for Jesus) mankind has seen the Diamond of God reflected in his Glory. Gods beloved has been revealed by the Pen of Glory. For the most beloved in the Glory of God is Justice. In the lexicon of the works of modern Art... The Blind Daughter of the Diamond of God, Eve. Pure in heart. Balanced in Spirit. |
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O'Cowboy of the Nazerene can you not see where thou hast gone? For indeed thou didst discuss Jesus as the Word... and thou hast missed again the Annointment of Grace and so returned into the past... "Ah, Jesus did not speak the Word. The Word was in the beginning and the Word was God. The Word is not speaking vocal. If the Word was ment as in a vocal word, the Word could not be God. The Word is a name/title. Thus why it is capitalized in the scriptures. It is a proper noun." The Word (in the form of Jesus) has ascended into the Celestial Realms, yea verily into the Heaven of Holiness... Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. By his rising did the Word rise also. By his Advent did the Word become Flesh in you. Yet look O' Cowboy of the Nazerene... You have quoted yourself into the past. Is that not a temporal loop... Christ is risen. Mankind has not. Be as Christ and lift them... Not from the Day of Adam but from this day to Glory. (their journey be not so long from this day). Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. There is no Word in the form of the Cowboy... The Word is not referring to grammar, it is a proper noun, a title, a name. Jesus is the Word. There is no "Word of God", the Word IS God. Jesus does not speak when opens your mouth. You do... When you do so you are the Word in the Flesh and speak the Word as Cowboy. (or do you claim to be Christ Jesus)? The Word is not God. The Word is IN God (as are all things). Again "The Word" is a title of a being, it is not referring to vocal speaking, or even written speaking. It's not referring to vocabulary, it is a name of a being a title. Why is everything a title of a being to you? How is the Word now a being? It can not be so for the Word was made Flesh. Claiming it as a being returns one to Adam of the Begining when the word was in God and Mankind had not yet seen Grace. A Temporal Loop. |
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O'Cowboy of the Nazerene can you not see where thou hast gone? For indeed thou didst discuss Jesus as the Word... and thou hast missed again the Annointment of Grace and so returned into the past... "Ah, Jesus did not speak the Word. The Word was in the beginning and the Word was God. The Word is not speaking vocal. If the Word was ment as in a vocal word, the Word could not be God. The Word is a name/title. Thus why it is capitalized in the scriptures. It is a proper noun." The Word (in the form of Jesus) has ascended into the Celestial Realms, yea verily into the Heaven of Holiness... Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. By his rising did the Word rise also. By his Advent did the Word become Flesh in you. Yet look O' Cowboy of the Nazerene... You have quoted yourself into the past. Is that not a temporal loop... Christ is risen. Mankind has not. Be as Christ and lift them... Not from the Day of Adam but from this day to Glory. (their journey be not so long from this day). Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. There is no Word in the form of the Cowboy... The Word is not referring to grammar, it is a proper noun, a title, a name. Jesus is the Word. There is no "Word of God", the Word IS God. Jesus does not speak when opens your mouth. You do... When you do so you are the Word in the Flesh and speak the Word as Cowboy. (or do you claim to be Christ Jesus)? The Word is not God. The Word is IN God (as are all things). |
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Jesus is not the Tree of Imortality. That Tree has fruit that gives imortality to the physical in the physical. If we continue to climb the Tree of Knowledge we will eventually find the Branch of Imortality in the Physical Realm... (Gods gift is life in this realm). The Soul is already Imortal (we are created the image of God). It exists before we are born in his realm and endures after we leave behind the Material world and all its lures. Jesus is a Guide along the Path to Salvation that we might be close to God in the Realm of the Spirit. Ah, but one will never find immortality less they find Jesus. Life is only granted through Jesus. The soul is immortal. But actions have consequences, and the only reward/consequence for sin is death. Thus Jesus offers forgiveness, strength and guidance. Jesus did not just offer. God gave. At the moment of Resurection the very Heavens changed. Jesus asked... God Gave. All the names of the Tribes of Adam were wiped from the Stone that marks the Path to Hell. Only Satan is written upon that stone. The Tribes of Adam were accorded access to the Heavenly Realms of Old... and Heaven itself expanded to contain the entire human race. |
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Jesus is not the Tree of Imortality.
That Tree has fruit that gives imortality to the physical in the physical. If we continue to climb the Tree of Knowledge we will eventually find the Branch of Imortality in the Physical Realm... (Gods gift is life in this realm). The Soul is already Imortal (we are created the image of God). It exists before we are born in his realm and endures after we leave behind the Material world and all its lures. Jesus is a Guide along the Path to Salvation that we might be close to God in the Realm of the Spirit. |
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O'Cowboy of the Nazerene can you not see where thou hast gone?
For indeed thou didst discuss Jesus as the Word... and thou hast missed again the Annointment of Grace and so returned into the past... "Ah, Jesus did not speak the Word. The Word was in the beginning and the Word was God. The Word is not speaking vocal. If the Word was ment as in a vocal word, the Word could not be God. The Word is a name/title. Thus why it is capitalized in the scriptures. It is a proper noun." The Word (in the form of Jesus) has ascended into the Celestial Realms, yea verily into the Heaven of Holiness... Yet the Word (in the form of the Cowboy of the Nazerene has returned to the temporal place where Man was formed. By his rising did the Word rise also. By his Advent did the Word become Flesh in you. Yet look O' Cowboy of the Nazerene... You have quoted yourself into the past. Is that not a temporal loop... Christ is risen. Mankind has not. Be as Christ and lift them... Not from the Day of Adam but from this day to Glory. (their journey be not so long from this day). |
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Aeeeee....
You speak as one that knows the fullness yet your path still leads to Adam and not Glory. Jesus spoke the Word (and Jesus was Flesh and Walked the Earth). Because he spoke the Word he was lifted up to the Heaven of Holiness by God as the Annointed One (he became Christ at the Advent of Jesus Christ became Grace at the annointment on the Mount by his choice of Forgivness in a Name of God. Christ was lifted up but the Word remained... the Word is Flesh for it walks the Earth by you (and thou art flesh). Walk it then forward follower of the Annointed One... Follow the Footsteps also of the Son after Gods Glory walked the Earth. |
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O' Cowboy of the Nazerene... Look at what you have said. "A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us. " Then you give verses from the New Word and link them to the path that was trod by your ancestors before the Advent of Christ... A temporal loop that perputates a slowing moving event upon the timestream that rotates all who are trapped in it to the very begining of the human race. Yet the Human Race has seen the Anointed One has risen into the celestial realms. Glory follows that event. As sure God exists beyond the Celestial City in the Innermost Sanctum and yet stands beside you (and every human on the face of the Earth). The Sun of Reality shines upon a wealth of new lands where Adam may begin to seed the Garden of Celestial Delight. That the Garden of Eden may one day spring forth anew upon the Earth. And the Bird of Paradise, the Eagle of God and the People of the Book find Comfort with one another in Friendship and Peace. When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast. When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast. Who fears the beast? Who fears anything? What is there to fear in this world? My friend, there is not a second to be wasted on fear. You speak of the Final Hours as though you have eaten from the Tree of Eternity. That exists not for mankind by the Choice of Adam when he chose the Path of Knowledge over the Path Imortality. Since that time Mankind has climbed the Tree of Knowledge. God gave Adam the Gift of Free Will to speed him upon his Journey. Ask the Sikh who reside near Milwakie and the Tribe of the Auroras that now walk along the Mountains of Winding River if Evil still walks among us. God can not protect you from Free Choice. That is a step you must take yourself. Heaven for Mankind is but a step away... Up the Tree of Knowledge that the Most Great Branch find Glory. |
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Edited by
AdventureBegins
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Sun 08/05/12 07:26 PM
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O' Cowboy of the Nazerene...
Look at what you have said. "A couple key things I wish to point out in these verses. In the beginning the Word "was" God, and in the beginning the word was "with" God. Then the word was made Flesh eg., Jesus and dwelt among us. " Then you give verses from the New Word and link them to the path that was trod by your ancestors before the Advent of Christ... A temporal loop that perputates a slowing moving event upon the timestream that rotates all who are trapped in it to the very begining of the human race. Yet the Human Race has seen the Anointed One has risen into the celestial realms. Glory follows that event. As sure God exists beyond the Celestial City in the Innermost Sanctum and yet stands beside you (and every human on the face of the Earth). The Sun of Reality shines upon a wealth of new lands where Adam may begin to seed the Garden of Celestial Delight. That the Garden of Eden may one day spring forth anew upon the Earth. And the Bird of Paradise, the Eagle of God and the People of the Book find Comfort with one another in Friendship and Peace. When that happens Tranquility will once again be a place where men and women can breath freely and fear not the Beast. |
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Edited by
AdventureBegins
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Sun 08/05/12 07:33 PM
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Oh Dear, sometimes you make it all sound so confusing.. Obviously Jesus was a man, if he wasn't there would be no point us even trying to be like him, it wouldn't be possible for us to be God, that would be to difficult. Jesus is Gods son, but we are also his children, so we should be the same. Indeed. We are all Gods Children. Edit: Please forgive my not seeing this immediately... You are right. It is impossible for a human to contain all of God. We would go insane. God sees every human thought from the moment of the Inception of Adam to the now that contains your thoughts... and every Generation of Adam that will or has ever existed. In all the Realms. Yet even does he know the same of the atom and the Higgs links and the very space below Planck. We are not God. He is us. |
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I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you. As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than. God made you to be greater than. Why do I call this a Temporal Loop... If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining. The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother. He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man. God simply IS. Ah, but there is a problem in your equation. No one killed God or ever will kill God. God is eternal. ayeeeee. But you speak the answer and see not the final result. Indeed God did not die. Yet Jesus was not God then was he? His mother pushed him from the Well of Life. If Jesus created Adam and then died that he might create Adam Mankind will never find the Glory of God it will be stuck trying to equate and dead God with a live promise of Glory. My equation raises mankind to Glory. Yours leads one back to creation. We are the 8th day. God is done resting. |
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Edited by
AdventureBegins
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Sat 08/04/12 08:15 PM
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I am sorry you feel that Jesus is superior to you.
As long as you hold him on the pedestal you will never acheive for you will allways feel less than. God made you to be greater than. Why do I call this a Temporal Loop... If God creates God then kills God there is an imbalance in the cycle. One must then follow God back so that God may create God... Yet you are stopped again at the Annointment of the One... and since God has killed God you must again return in time to the Begining. The key to break the cycle is not the son but rather the Mother. He was born of a woman. Therefore he was a man. God simply IS. |
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The word 'God' denotes an existance greater then our measurement of the state of 'being'.
God as a word is not a title but a rather a sound one makes because the actual name of God is a manyfold and to utter such a Greatness is to shatter the very foundations of Reality. Authority is something you have. Not something one obtains from a title. Only men seek authority. God has it all ready. He exists beyond the stars into the unseen realms and yet is also smaller than the space mankind calls Planc. We can not measure God. Nor can I argue with you about his likeness... He is not in our Image... We are in His. |
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Cowboy.
I was intrigued by your steadfast clinging to your Temporal Loop of Jesus as God. Therefore I deepend on that subject in the Pool of the Hidden Words. You have the right of it sir. For you. It is a moving event that continues to Lift the Human Race to the Apex of Prosperity and Salvation. My problem with your words is that your loop is not flowing forward at the same pace as the human race. As a whole Mankind is moving at the Speed of Gods Grace and is well on its way to Glory. You are moving at the speed of the Oil of Annointment that Crowned Grace upon the Advent of Christ. Yet I am assured by the Glory of God that there is a Reason for this fact... so I will not argue the face of God with you. I am still blinded by his Glory. I can not yet see his face. |
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Topic:
Creflo Dollar?
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MsHarmony...can you deny that back in those biblical days killing unruly children was the politically correct way to discipline those little monsters ..God handed those laws to Moses...are you willing to admit that God is cruel? Mr. Funches God did not hand all to Moses. God handed but 10 commandants to Moses. The rest of those laws are what Moses himself wrote to govern the Tribes of Israel. Gods finger wrote but those that were on stone. |
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Topic:
The politics of non-violence
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Yet those are base on your religious/ spiritual beliefs. Some people don't believe in souls while others believe the soul enters at conception. Others believe that taking a life forfeits your right to life. You cant hold society to your own personal beliefs. I don't hold "society" to anything. I think a soul could very possibly be attached to or assigned to a fetus at (or after) conception, but if that conception does not go to term and birth then occur, that soul is simply assigned or attached to another fetus. In other words, it does not die. Souls are eternal. Souls don't die. Birth is simply the manner in which consciousness (or the soul) enters into this reality. For those who don't believe in souls or spirit consciousness, I can't blame them, but they have a right to believe or not in anything they want. Birth into the physical occurs at the moment of conception. At that point the 'fetus' is alive in the physical world. It remains in the Womb for that time necessary for it to build a body. Yet it is alive and human. It is the soul that choses to attach to the mother. When a woman carries a child the spirit about her is doubled. If you see in that realm you know this to be a truth. A pregnat woman has a stronger spirit because of that doubling. The process of gestation and birth is the first Test of Striving. Souls that pass this test exit the Well of Life into life itself. The body is still the body, it is not the soul. The soul, while it may be attached to the fetus in the womb, is not yet born into the world. It (the soul) I (believe) comes and goes from the fetus at its own will. If the fetus dies, the soul does NOT DIE. Souls do not die. But the most important point is that until it is living and breathing on its own, it is not "born." The reason is that it is dependent on the body that is carrying it. That body (the mother) is alive, has been born, and has a right to live. If a fetus threatens the life of the mother, the mother should always come first. By giving a fetus the "right to live" over the mother, who has already been born and is living, you are disrespecting her right to life. Child birth is a life threatening condition. The life of the mother has a right to life over and above the life of the fetus. "The soul, while it may be attached to the fetus in the womb, is not yet born into the world." ... Oh but it is born unto the world. The Well of Life (the womb) exists in this world does it not? By the very nature of Mankind that child is breathing... It breaths through the gift of the Mother... Is this not a truth? Yet only the Mother can choose when there is danger of loss because of the presence of life within her. That choice I can not make for her... It is hers alone. I have never disrecpected that right. why would you even suggest such a thing? She does not have a Right above that of the Child to life. Only the right to choose her path. If she choose to kill the Child I can not judge. I have no womb. |
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Topic:
The politics of non-violence
Edited by
AdventureBegins
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Thu 07/26/12 01:51 PM
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Yet those are base on your religious/ spiritual beliefs. Some people don't believe in souls while others believe the soul enters at conception. Others believe that taking a life forfeits your right to life. You cant hold society to your own personal beliefs. I don't hold "society" to anything. I think a soul could very possibly be attached to or assigned to a fetus at (or after) conception, but if that conception does not go to term and birth then occur, that soul is simply assigned or attached to another fetus. In other words, it does not die. Souls are eternal. Souls don't die. Birth is simply the manner in which consciousness (or the soul) enters into this reality. For those who don't believe in souls or spirit consciousness, I can't blame them, but they have a right to believe or not in anything they want. Birth into the physical occurs at the moment of conception. At that point the 'fetus' is alive in the physical world. It remains in the Womb for that time necessary for it to build a body. Yet it is alive and human. It is the soul that choses to attach to the mother. When a woman carries a child the spirit about her is doubled. If you see in that realm you know this to be a truth. A pregnat woman has a stronger spirit because of that doubling. The process of gestation and birth is the first Test of Striving. Souls that pass this test exit the Well of Life into life itself. |
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Topic:
The politics of non-violence
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I think what Jenn is trying to say is God didnt give stillborn children the rigjt to live No, let me explain it to you this way. When you have sex with a woman, millions upon millions of sperm fight their way towards an egg. The winner gets to the first part of the journey towards life in this world, but the journey is not over. The other sperm cells lost the race. They do not have the right to reach the egg if they lost the race. Now if the fetus grows to term and is delivered alive, that fetus has won the race. He or she from that day forward has a right to life. Once the fetus attaches to the mother it has 'won the race'. It is alive and human. From that point on it lives and grows, learns and thrives. Does it not have the right to life from the moment of conception? Jesus was not born a Man. He was conceived as men are. By the Womb of the Mother. The Well of Life. |
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