Topic:
Letter to Race Manners
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society does have blame I however think you have a deluded view of how desirable prison life is,,lol how many with medical coverage never use it, what quality of medical care do these mere 'criminals' get? watching a television show? you can also do that in a sports bar...lol working out? I do that in my home, you can do it pretty much anywhere... ,,but I wont go on the important part of it is society has to change, not only in how it treats the least of us, but how it trains up people to value others property and life,,,, more than homeless people that never committed or at least got caught committing a crime |
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Topic:
Criminal Treatment
Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 08/23/14 07:17 AM
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I always feel reaction should match action so I don't feel someone who took bread from a store for instance, deserves the same treatment as someone who beats someone into a coma I don't feel someone who curses at a cop or pulls away from them, deserves the same treatment as someone who pulls a woman into an alley and rapes her the problem though in dispensing such an absolutist type of justice is that not all who are 'accused' or 'arrested' or even 'convicted' are actually those who committed the crime so balance must be achieved through looking at situations individually and thoroughly, and keeping the element of humanity that refuses to treat humans beneath a certain level regardless of their station in life I believe loss of 'freedom' and the risks of being in such close quarters with other 'criminals' is enough of a just punishment for those accused,, I don't see how that is 'coddling' in any way,. their is a difference between jail and prison jail is for lessor crimes and usually stay in the county they committed their offense in and is for periods of time up to one year for the more serious crimes they go to prison for varying amounts of time per their crime yes they lose their ability to go out into the regular public but other than that what real punishment do they get there are those that do not mind being confined until being in prison and jail becomes more than just being confined these things will continue to be glorified obviously just the loss of freedom is not a deterrent to crime jail and prison needs to be worse than being homeless |
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Topic:
Letter to Race Manners
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the sad thing is society is to blame for these shootings why you ask because being a criminal is glorified and not punished properly you commit a crime you go to jail and have medical coverage watch some tv get to work out in the gym educate yourself to be able to be smarter for the next crime you commit go out in the yard and pla various games criminals need to be treated like criminals then maybe our young people wouldnt want to act like them |
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Topic:
Letter to Race Manners
Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 08/23/14 07:00 AM
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it seems logical to not 'choose' things that will get you shot,, but the problem is in this ever growing paranoid gun loving society,, the list of things that will 'justifiably' get you shot are growing,,,, and most intelligent people know reaching in a cop car and going for the cops weapon and attacking cop is one of those things how many people 'lost' their life to Brown? i dont know and neither do you for sure if a rape victim didn't drink on a date they may not get raped but if they ARE raped,, something should be done about it, and what were they doing any time an officer is involved in a shooting even if no one is hurt said officer goes up before a review board that takes time the way you make it sound the cop should have been put up against a wall and shot maybe if they would have held everyone responsible for their actions and permitted a proper investigation instead of looting and rioting everything would have been different |
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Topic:
Criminal Treatment
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i dont usually post topics but i feel this needs discussed when someone is convicted of a crime they need to be treated like a criminal they need to be put in working chain gangs they need to be fed life sustaining clean food (not necessarily good tasting food nor a variety of foods) they need to have very little recreational yard time their recreation is the chain gang maybe if criminals were treated the way they treat others then fewer young people would commit violent acts that end up leading to their destruction when society takes to coddling criminals then being a criminal looks much more inviting |
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Topic:
Letter to Race Manners
Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 08/23/14 06:28 AM
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I agree with all this. I can say, for instance, that a woman walking naked in an ally has some RESPONSIBILITY for inviting a rape,, but that wouldn't excuse the rape or mean the rape shouldn't be investigated and charged because rape is WRONG likewise, I can say that a teens acting like bullies have some responsibility for their victim becoming fed up enough to show up and commit a mass shooting,, but that wouldn't excuse the mass shooting or mean it shouldn't be I investigated and charged,,,because it is WRONG Brown shoplifted and acted like a bully, and for that he deserved prosecution,, not execution,,, he was not executed for the store issues he was shot by someone that happened to be white and an officer that was defending himself YES, I agree he was not shot for the shoplifting,, so why does it keep being mentioned? he was not shot by the person he 'attacked' by pushing away from him, so why does that keep being mentioned? he was not even shot during the 'attack' on the officer he was shot AFTER all that was over,,,while trying to get away. he violently attacked an officer doing so shows that if anyone did anything he did not like is at high risk of losing their life if you attack a cop with a gun how safe is the average person from being attacked by him it was the officers duty to take him off the street if he would have complied he would not have been shot if you do not want to get shot do not choose to do things that are likely to lead to that end he acted violent and was treated in the same manner |
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whatever????? do not attack people if you dont wanna suffer the possible consequences the officer is not the first person brown attacked that day how many people is someone supposed to be permitted to attack before someone defends themselves whatever is in response to the constant attempt at discrediting witnesses with things pulled out of the air like 'they all talked to each other' the officer is not the first person brown 'attacked' but he is the only person who shot him dead after he had left the 'attack' location,, and the only one with training and a paycheck to handle just those situations,,,, if you dont want shot dont attack people |
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Topic:
Letter to Race Manners
Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 08/23/14 06:17 AM
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I agree with all this. I can say, for instance, that a woman walking naked in an ally has some RESPONSIBILITY for inviting a rape,, but that wouldn't excuse the rape or mean the rape shouldn't be investigated and charged because rape is WRONG likewise, I can say that a teens acting like bullies have some responsibility for their victim becoming fed up enough to show up and commit a mass shooting,, but that wouldn't excuse the mass shooting or mean it shouldn't be I investigated and charged,,,because it is WRONG Brown shoplifted and acted like a bully, and for that he deserved prosecution,, not execution,,, he was not executed for the store issues he was shot by someone that happened to be white and an officer that he attacked |
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whatever????? do not attack people if you dont wanna suffer the possible consequences the officer is not the first person brown attacked that day how many people is someone supposed to be permitted to attack before someone defends themselves |
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Topic:
Letter to Race Manners
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it is such a terrible thing that the choices some people make lead to their own detrimental issues it is easy to sit somewhere and say what a shame they should not have done that it is a different feeling when you are the one being attacked or either physically or financially if people want respect they need to be respectful if groups want respect they need to hold members of their group responsible for their actions ----- no matter what group they are religious --- race --- or --- fraternal order to name 3 but all groups are subject to this including political groups |
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A local Saint Louis radio station is reporting that Dorian Johnson has recanted his prior media espousals and now asserts that he and Mike Brown did indeed engage in a physical confrontation with Officer Darren Wilson. As a consequence the same Radio Station is asserting the local prosecutor essentially advises it’s doubtful charges would be filed. While this report is difficult to vet it does align with recently leaked information about Officer Wilson sustaining significant injury as a result of a felonious assault by Mike Brown during the initial encounter. Additionally we know the Grand Jury is scheduled for tomorrow. We also just found out the Missouri AG is on site tonight and tomorrow. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/19/breaking-report-dorian-johnson-recants-media-statement-tells-authorities-big-mike-did-try-for-officers-gun-acquittal-probable/comment-page-2/ OMG! You mean all that rioting was for nothing? Well, cept, de did get to steal some good stuff, dat was worf it. ![]() missing the point, even if there is resisting arrest, once the suspects are unarmed and FLEEING,,,,the situation has changed and the reaction should too in other words, a fleeing unarmed suspect has no reason to be SHOT DOWN in the streets,,,, he has shown an om going violent lifestyle him being shot may have saved many lives and saved a lot of court time and money if you dont want to get shot dont attack people |
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happens all the time it could be said about both sides |
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Topic:
EXACTLY my question
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i am sure the robbery (if it was him like shaggy says it wasn't me) had an effect on browns state of mind thus on his actions as well but that said many things with the fergason fiasco were handle very poorly on both sides if you want respect for your group of people you must hold those in your group responsible for their actions (no matter what group it is) no one is automatically innocent or guilty because of the group they are in I agree. And no one is automatically deserving of death because they commit a crime. i can agree to that to a point but if someone is attacking another the person being attacked should not have to be subjected to the attack that said if you dont wanna die dont attack |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Fri 08/22/14 01:33 PM
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i feel dna profile should be added to birth certificates the fathers and the mothers and the babies that would be proof positive of the parents and the gov would get their dna data base which may reduce crime and when adopted they can leave names off but keep profile for medical accuracies for future health issues |
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if police have nothing to hide why would hey not wear the cameras just a thought |
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how many looters have been arrested????? |
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Topic:
gun control 1- 10
Edited by
adj4u
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Fri 08/22/14 01:42 PM
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Seventy-two killed resisting gun confiscation in Boston BOSTON National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambus...hed on April 19th by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw. Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons. Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington 's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large. . . . And this, people, is how the American Revolution began . April 20, 1775 sounds like waco hhhmmmmm |
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they have looters on tape how many of them have been arrested |
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obama should have ordered multiple bombing missions as soon as he learned of the murder and if it happens again order double the bombings and then triple and so on you say but that will kill number two maybe so but they made a chioce to work in a dangerous environment and chances are it may save the life of number 3 or 4 or 5 and so on and if it is learned they kidnap an american a bombing mission on them this wimpy attitude has to stop some civilians may get hurt or killed you say ---- maybe those civilians should hold those making their people look and act horrendously responsible |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Fri 08/22/14 01:14 PM
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lol, exactly as a mom, I always pay my babysitter with total acceptance of them straddling and beating the crap out of my kid as part of that contract,,,lol and , like I said,, we should really not judge someones death or beating without knowing for sure how big they were and if they committed any crimes,,,, because being big or committing a crime than makes us deserving of abuse or death,, I totally have come to understand the 'lawabiding' citizens logic about the 'animals' and 'ferals' I am in the 'game',,, ![]() so it is ok to commit a crime against someone and have no consequences it is not abuse it is apprehension if they dont fight apprehension in most cases there is not an altercation in the electronic world of today you can arm yourself with an uploading video system that they can not seize on the spot and all govt law enforcement personnel should be required to wear such equipment and if it goes down they report immediately back to station for replacement or repair failure to do so results in unpaid suspension and three time they are out that said that officer needs to be investigated and be treated accordingly to the results of that investigation |
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