no it is not that they deserve it but like you said it is a choice imo the proper thing to do would have been for obama to start bombing isis hourly this would last for 1 week if they do it again the bombing would last 2 weeks again 3 weeks and so on till it cost more than they want to pay the actions will not change |
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I don't understand why this is not considered a Hate Crime I don't understand why the Jewish community has not rioted and looted local stores I don't understand why the DOJ and E Holder have not convened a group of investigators. I don't understand why the Governor of Florida has not demanded a "vigorous prosecution." I don't understand why the media hasn't talked inccesantly about the War on Old Jewish Men. Perhaps the brilliant equivocators here could enlighten me? Two men sought in fatal shooting of Orthodox rabbi in Northeast Miami-Dade By Ann Choi The Miami Herald The victim was from Brooklyn, N.Y., and was in South Florida visiting family. One Jewish community group said it was “a robbery that went badly.” Members of Bais Menachem, 1005 N.E. 172nd Terrace, gathered late Saturday night to talk about the shooting death Joseph Raksin, 60-year-old Orthodox rabbi from Brooklyn, N.Y. Raksin was on his way to the local synagogue Saturday morning when he wwas gunned down during a likely random robbery attempt. Ann Choi / Miami Herald A 60-year-old Orthodox rabbi from Brooklyn on his way to a Northeast Miami-Dade synagogue was gunned down Saturday morning during a likely random robbery attempt, according to Miami-Dade police and local Jewish community leaders. The shooting victim, Joseph Raksin, was walking eastbound on Northeast 175th Street and Eighth Court at about 9 a.m. when he was confronted by two young men. Following an altercation, Raksin was shot by one of the men, police said. It’s unclear how many shots were fired at Raksin. But the New York rabbi's critical wounds prompted authorities to airlift him to the Ryder Trauma Center, where he later died. A funeral is planned for Sunday afternoon. The community is offering a $50,000 reward for information that leads to an arrest. The shooting took place in an area of unincorporated Northeast Miami-Dade near North Miami Beach, where swastikas found painted on a local synagogue last month have worried local Jewish leaders. “At this time there is no indication of this being a hate crime,” said Miami-Dade police spokeswoman Elena Hernandez in a statement. She said police are searching for two young male suspects, one of whom may have fled on a bicycle. The other may have run from the area. Late Saturday, Hava Holzhauer, the Anti-Defamation League Florida Regional Director, whose organization has been in close contact with Miami-Dade homicide investigators, said the crime “appears to be a robbery that went badly.” “Currently no evidence has been brought to light that it was motivated by anti-Semitism,” Holzhauer said. Said Holzhauer: “This is a terrible tragedy. While the motivation for this crime is still being investigated, nothing can justify the killing of an innocent man walking to his place of worship to pray on his holy day.” Miami-Dade police have not commented on whether the shooting was connected to a robbery attempt on Raksin. Yona Lunger, a local Jewish community activist and member of the Shmira Patrol — a neighborhood watch group — confirmed to the Miami Herald late Saturday that Raksin was an Orthodox rabbi from Brooklyn who was in South Florida to visit his granddaughter and other relatives. Efforts to reach the relatives were unsuccessful. Raksin was on his way to Bais Menachem, 1005 NE 172nd Ter., when he was shot, said Lunger, who spoke to one witness who told him that — contrary to what Miami-Dade police reported — Raksin had no altercation with the two young men. He said the witness, whom he did not identify, told him that Raksin was shot immediately after the two approached him on Northeast 175th Street. Another local Jewish community leader, Brian Siegal, director of the American Jewish Committee’s Miami and Broward Regional Office, said he believes Raksin’s shooting may be connected to the recent act of vandalism at the nearby Torah V’Emunah, an Orthodox synagogue, 1000 NE 174th St. On July 28, police reported that swastikas were spray-painted on the front pillars of a Northeast Miami-Dade synagogue, which has left the local Jewish community on edge, especially amid the heightened tension between Israel and Palestinians over the conflict in Gaza. Said Siegal: “Our deepest condolences to the [Raksin] family for this tragic loss. We are confident the police will take the matter seriously and will give them time to investigate. Coming so soon and so close to the synagogue that was vandalized last week with swastikas and pro-Hamas graffiti, obviously we’re suspicious that it’s linked, but that remains to be seen.” Said the ADL in a statement: “The Anti-Defamation League is shocked and horrified by the murder of a Rabbi on his way to synagogue this morning in North Miami Beach. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Rabbi Joseph Raksin’sfamily and the surrounding community.” Late Saturday, members of Bais Menachem gathered outside the synagogue to talk to reporters about the shooting incident. Raksin was walking ahead of his grandsons and son-in-law when he was shot, said Rabbi Moshe Druin. “We are in utter shock,” Druin said. Druin said community members ruled out a possibility of robbery because Orthodox Jewish do not carry any money or possession on Saturdays, the community’s Sabbath day. “There hasn’t been a robbery on Sabbath for the past 35 years,” Druin said. “It definitely is an anomaly,” Peretz Pinhas, another community member said of the shooting. http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/09/4280988/two-men-sought-in-fatal-shooting.html#storylink=cpy until they determine who committed the crime how can they determine if it was a hate crime or not for all we know per this article the perps may be of jewish descent |
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Yea confused the two lol..hard to keep track of all these crooked police depts, and black guys.. well, media does flourish on the negative, not that these things shouldn't be highlighted and addressed,, regardless of race it happened to a white 'thug' in Utah as well, gunned down without a weapon,,,,, police need better training and life needs to have more value,,, again, regardless to race,,,, if life needs more value how would you change the penalty for threatening and/or taking a life I wouldn't change the LEGAL penalty, for assault, or fighting, or any other physical aggression,, Incarceration and reparation of some sort to the victim for taking a life,, incarceration and/or reparation to the family how can a murderer pay for a life they have taken how can a murderer pay for a parent sibling child friend spouse if no death penalty they should be chained to a wall on a 3 foot chain after all the person they murdered doesnt get to move at all but of course only for 1st degree murder 2nd degree can have a 4x6 cell with a skylight so they wont have to go outside the cell they can be released when the person they murdered comes back to life and if someone bears false witness against another they get the sentence the one they lied about would get |
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hmm,, you believe the only possibility for someone to be in jail is wanting to be in jail? I imagine a homeless person could be tempted to steal food or items to sell for food or money,, that has nothing to do with 'wanting' to be in jail and everything to do with wanting to eat or have shelter,,, and for stealing food they go to jail not prison when someone makes a choice to do illegal acts they choose to take the chance of incarceration so yes they choose to be so incarcerated if you cant take the punishment dont do the crime choosing to risk a consequence is not the same as WANTING to experience that consequence choosing to join the military is taking the risk of being gunned down or blown up but IM doubting that many are motivated to join because they 'want' to be gunned down or blown up if that is why they are joining they are not taken but as you said they know it is a possibility and if prison was worse than homelessness maybe they would not do the crime there is a big difference between wants and needs those that commit crimes want something they dont need there are many ways and places to get feed in this country without having to commit a crime to eat many live that way for years if you commit a crime the punishment needs to be severe enough to be strong enough to make you not wanna commit the crime in the first place why should a law biding citizen in some causes be victimized more than the criminal is punished crime |
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hmm,, you believe the only possibility for someone to be in jail is wanting to be in jail? I imagine a homeless person could be tempted to steal food or items to sell for food or money,, that has nothing to do with 'wanting' to be in jail and everything to do with wanting to eat or have shelter,,, and for stealing food they go to jail not prison when someone makes a choice to do illegal acts they choose to take the chance of incarceration so yes they choose to be so incarcerated if you want to get the punishment dont do the crime |
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Yea confused the two lol..hard to keep track of all these crooked police depts, and black guys.. well, media does flourish on the negative, not that these things shouldn't be highlighted and addressed,, regardless of race it happened to a white 'thug' in Utah as well, gunned down without a weapon,,,,, police need better training and life needs to have more value,,, again, regardless to race,,,, if life needs more value how would you change the penalty for threatening and/or taking a life |
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were any of the cases of unarmed deaths homeless people? and, no, going to prison would not be better than being homeless,, with the exception of food, and a 'warm' place to sleep, there isn't a lot of difference in the dangers, or the humiliation,,, that is an opinion and obviously they would rather be in prison than homeless or they would not risk it if prison was more than just confinement they may think on it a bit more before doing something that would send them there or, they could just be desperate and have no money,, desperate for food, or things they can sell for money to get food the more direct way to get lodging in a jail, would be to simply steal something and sit and wait,,,,which isn't USUALLY what happens,,,, that is true but if they didnt want to go to jail rather than be homeless then they would just be homeless |
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When White on White crime takes place it’s never talked about the way it is when Blacks commit crimes.
In the United States, a White person is almost six times more likely to be killed by another White person than by a Black person, according to FBI homicide data. In 2011, there were more cases of Whites killing Whites than there were Blacks killing Blacks. However, the mainstream media obsesses over Black on Black violence and rarely mentions the problem of White on White violence. These statistics have not led to a media outcry about the problem of White on White crime or the unique pathology of the White community. Nor has the White community stood up to demand change in their community like the Black community does when trying to tackle instances of Black on Black crime. http://callandpost.com/news/2013/aug/16/white-white-crime-more-prevalent-black-black/ ------------------------------------------------------------ hhhmmm |
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how to pick up chicks
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i bet cheep cheep doesnt work lol |
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the same and 'equal' coverage of all these incidents isn't going to happen,, this is another of too many of such events and I do hope something changes,,,,, perhaps DEESCULATION should be part of an officers training, besides just shooting to kill,,,, i quess looting and rioting works hhmm no, its quite the distraction from the protesting and other things that could work,,,, but it got them the coverage those in salt lake only got local coverage maybe they should have strong armed the local govt to |
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were any of the cases of unarmed deaths homeless people? and, no, going to prison would not be better than being homeless,, with the exception of food, and a 'warm' place to sleep, there isn't a lot of difference in the dangers, or the humiliation,,, that is an opinion and obviously they would rather be in prison than homeless or they would not risk it if prison was more than just confinement they may think on it a bit more before doing something that would send them there |
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/22/1323712/-The-missing-Ferguson-PD-Incident-Report-on-the-death-of-Michael-Brown-omg#
it says homicide on the report that is correct someone was killed now it needs to be decided if it was justifiable this one is from st loius county police not fergason |
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I agree, it should matter yet it often doesn't, in what people consider the 'GRAND SCHEME' so true many want to think this is a democracy and it isnt it is a republic democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of minority i think it was Jefferson that said that the problem is the three branches of the fed govt are not working properly |
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it matters what everyone thinks no one should have their thoughts steamrolled this is not china or north korea yet |
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being homeless is awful, we shouldn't gauge how to treat human beings by how bad the homeless have it we should probably just try to make it better for the homeless and I don't know too many people 'criminal' or not who would not lose their mind not being able to move more than in a six by six concrete square their whole life,or walk around a concrete jungle of people who have possibly murder or rape on their minds,,,that is punishment enough,,, you just proved my point if facing homelessness they can go commit a crime and wala room n board with various forms of ways to fill their time obviously it is not punishment enough cause it is not deterring enough crime does pay there is no real point prison is doubtfully the goal of MOST people who commit crimes, no matter how pretty a picture one tires to paint when describing prison conditions,,, MOST People no doubt want their freedom and their 'things' many do not plan on prison you are correct but they do plan on not being homeless so they commit crimes to not be homeless because going to prison is better than homelessness |
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the same and 'equal' coverage of all these incidents isn't going to happen,, this is another of too many of such events and I do hope something changes,,,,, perhaps DEESCULATION should be part of an officers training, besides just shooting to kill,,,, i quess looting and rioting works hhmm |
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being homeless is awful, we shouldn't gauge how to treat human beings by how bad the homeless have it we should probably just try to make it better for the homeless and I don't know too many people 'criminal' or not who would not lose their mind not being able to move more than in a six by six concrete square their whole life,or walk around a concrete jungle of people who have possibly murder or rape on their minds,,,that is punishment enough,,, you just proved my point if facing homelessness they can go commit a crime and wala room n board with various forms of ways to fill their time obviously it is not punishment enough cause it is not deterring enough crime does pay |
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Burbank drew a distinction between Taylor’s shooting, in which the officer involved was not white, and the racially charged shooting of Michael Brown, the black teenager who was fatally shot by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., two days before Taylor was killed.
http://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile3/58313255-219/burbank-police-taylor-officer.html.csp ------------------------------------------------------------------- victim was white but officer involved was not white they are following same procedures no info because of on going investigation oh must be the lack of looting and rioting |
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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58317040-78/taylor-police-lake-salt.html.csp
On Aug. 11, SLCPD officers arrived to find Taylor, his brother Jerrail Taylor and his cousin leaving the 7-Eleven. Investigators have said Dillon Taylor ignored the officers’ commands to stop. Jerrail Taylor has said his brother was wearing headphones and didn’t immediately hear the officers, who were shouting conflicting commands and shot Dillon Taylor even though he was unarmed and posed no threat. ------------------------------------------------------------------ why is this not getting covered |
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On Aug. 11, SLCPD officers arrived to find Taylor, his brother Jerrail Taylor and his cousin leaving the 7-Eleven. Investigators have said Dillon Taylor ignored the officers’ commands to stop. Jerrail Taylor has said his brother was wearing headphones and didn’t immediately hear the officers, who were shouting conflicting commands and shot Dillon Taylor even though he was unarmed and posed no threat.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58317040-78/taylor-police-lake-salt.html.csp ------------------------------------------------------------------ why is this not getting the same coverage |
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