Actually i stated that my opinion was based on reports. you call it heresay as if we are in a court of law! you see an officer releasing reports as if the documents they have are fake because the col. didnt have the right to release them. yes he should not of released them but they are out now and they are real and this is not a court of law as if discovery needs to be established lol...this is tooo tooo easy! fact they have his military records! real ones! fact he was a muslim! fact witnesses have stated that he screamed those things i wont say out of resect. but its not heresay if there is a witness! fact his military records show that he was an extremist if any logical thought is used. thats all nothing else DUNKED ON!

Not you Daniel I agree with you

typical.. loosing the arguemnt so you attempt to shift the ground.. you assert that a psychopath can't, by law and by definition, be held responsible for his actions etc because he's not in his right mind... then bring me the word "psychosis"

ok, again from American Heritage Dictionary

psychosis adj. A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.

Ok.. that's a different animal than psychopathic

psychopathic adj. 1. Of, or related to, or characterized by psychopathy. 2. Relating to or affected with an antisocial personality disorder that is usually characterized by aggressive, perverted, criminal or amoral behaviour.

Ok? so there are two different terms you want to play here..

Your orinal assertion


psychopathology isn't a specific affliction. it characterizes a class of afflictions and doesn't indicate, by definition or by law, that the person isn't in his "right" mind.. it just means the person is antisocial, aggressive, perverted, criminal or amoral

then you bring in the red herring "psychosis", a specific term relating to having suffered a break with reality.(again, shifting the ground of the debate)

equating the two is a false premise. and you know it

your arguement fails..

Now.. Does Maj. Hasan deserve due process? By American Law? yes.. of course, he does. anyone charged with a crime does.

I get the feeling you just like arguing against me..

here's a new topic..

"The sun rises in the east"

The truth can be mocked but not defeated!

Tell a lie long enough it becomes truth to the masses!

In lock step they follow to the beat of their facist drums while singing freedom and peace.


History while greatly unapreciated has shown the strong is usually unpopular until the steps of war are at your feet then the weak asks the strong what to do?

you describe your self not me! evil can not be ignored thats the point! i fight for my neighbor not just me! if i wait till they come cut my throat its kinda late isnt it? those soldiers deserve justice and vengence in my opinion! i'm not narrow minded you are! you wont admit that this guy was a muslim extremist even though clearly the reports show he was! why? because your the narrow mined one!
you dont need a judge and jury to form a conclusion and i have made my conclusion based on the reports!

anger and haste? rightous anger! haste....lol its been 40 years!

reup? lol.. i am 40 now besides i can help here and elsewhere if i like.

you see my statements as conflicting because you have formed an opinion of me as a bigot and when you read them its contrary. your own bigotry doesnt allow you to accept that someone can form an opinion without needing to be accepted or told what to think! my thoughts are genuine well thought out and always conforming to a value system based on truth! i dont take others opinions and repeat them i form my own! I am a realist true and true!

psychopath n 1. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, especially one mainfested in aggressive, perverted, criminal or amoral behavior.

No where in this definition is there any indicant that the person isn't or cannot be held accountable for his behaviour or not being in his right mind.

nice try.. next.


and are you really asserting that Maj Hasan should not be held to account for his actions?? really????

Nope, I agree too! If you're gonna talk, then have the balls(?) to level up to it personally. Speaking from hiding makes you a coward.

yeah you're so right!

None of the blame should be place on the a-hole who strapped a couple pistols to his belt and walked into the processing center, yelling Allahu Ackbar! and started shooing up the place..

yepp.. not his fault.. people were teasing him..

not his fault.. washington is "downsizing" the military (Shades of the Clinton, anyone?)

not his fault.. he was forced to see all those casualties from overseas..

not his fault.. his mommy didn't love him enough..

not his fault.. he grew up in a socio-economically depressed area..

not his fault.. his high school baseball coach cut him from the team..

not his fault.. his girlfriend dumped him before prom..

not his fault.. he sat in his room playing World of Warcraft 16 hours a day..

not his fault.. blah blah blah blah..

When are violent psychopaths ever held responisble for their actions?

So you are saying someone like the guy that brought down Nixon should have been put in jail? Woodward as well? He didn't disclose his anonymous source for 30 years. Interesting concept.

you sound like a nazi buddy.. Free speech is a protected right and if someone is to be persecuted for it theyd be stupid not to do it incognito... if the goverment went after the media itd be a disaster for them...Theyve gone against the people enough as it is..Its not an americans duty to serve the or protect the interests of government its the other way around... if our government continues the way it is by systematically eliminating our rights in the name f "national security".. then we will have come to the point where out founding fathers told us its time to eliminate our government and rebuild one that is again of and for th people not the corporation that government had become..now do i see that happening never... but its a simple fact "Being told you are free , does not make you free".. and


and as far as almost all of them bing able to be proven as incorrect .. the entire of news is like that if you are wachting it you should just keep telling yourself theyre lying to me... i was personally involved in multiple incidents that were on the news and EVERy time the story was sensationalized to the point of using incorrect "facts" about the incident... its amazing what one or two changed wrds can do.. being that the person is hiding their identity Someone didnt want them saying what they were saying and itd pretty easy to "PROVE" even an absolute truth as a fabrication if that was ones goal..

Rocky Mountain Oysters...! LOL!

"Needing mental help"

He is a psychiatrist. He was stationed at Walter Reed. Never been in combat.

Your theory doesn't add up.


you really think because he was stationed at walter reed for a few years that this means he has never been deployed? Althogh not impossible, it is highly unlikely that he has been in the army long enough to attain the rank of Major and NOT deployed somewhere.
And even if he hadn't, the fact that he was at walter reed for several years gives me enough reason to wonder whether or not he suffered from ptsd after dealing with all the wounded coming back from over seas. I have been stationed at a military combat support hospital, and deployed with them, so I can tell you from first hand experience that it is traumatizing, severely so to wotk with all those people who have been out in conflict, or danger, and now are being sent home with less than they went out with. I have seen MANY doctors, have nervous breakdowns just from dealing with the every day stress of working with the wounded.

Now let me ask you one question: I am asusimng it was released that he had served at walter reed, and I know several "reliable sources" have dictated that he has never deployed, but that is all hearsay at this time. So how can you say without a doubt that he has never deployed? Or, assuming that he hasnt, that e has not faced so much stress that he had a major breakdown? You can't. Neither can I, which is why I am nt saying he DID havea breakdown.

What I am saying however, is the "information" that is being released so far does not add up to make anything of sense. A majority of it contradicts itself.

Thomas I will back track my comment for it does seem it does matter at this time what his beliefs were. Since it may have to do with his beliefs that caused him to react the way he did. He should have never been let in the Military if it was that well known of the way he did believe.

To bad the Military did not see this in time for this bloodbath not to happen. I do feel that the death penalty would be too good for him since he is within Texas who knows what will happen since he is Military as well....

So thanks for posting the facts...........

yeah hominy rocks, fried in butter pile it up with some over easy eggs on top. wish my gramma was still around. kalitas and vegalagas (speelcheck on those) looked like weeds to me but man how she could cook em up. still trying to get inspired bout dem guts though.

some guy on cnn just tryed to compare this to work place viloince