Yes I have many mex Amer friends, but I have never heard them threaten
the US, so their cousins can stay here illegally. Have you? If so they
are traders to me...and they should go too..
I am not a bleeding heart, I dont care if you screwed an illegal
immigrant and got pregnant. You should have thought about that then.
dont ask me to pardon them for your sins.

Was going to stay out of this but...

I am darn glad the kill em all or ship em home mentality did not exist
when my family came to the americas. We were illegals. (i.e we snuck
in).

since then we have worked hard for our piece of the dream. We have lost
family members in every war the US has engaged in. Some of us are
fighting for this country right now.

I for one wonder how you can hold high the torch of freedom in one hand
(send us your tired... etc) and then deny those people that meet the
criteria of the liberty ladies voice with a gun. Perhaps the law needs
to be changed so they are no longer consider illegals.

I have the rights of an american.

One right I do not have is the right to deny someone else their shot at
the dream.

If they work harder then I do then I reckon I best step up.

"I for one wonder how you can hold high the torch of freedom in one hand
(send us your tired... etc) and then deny those people that meet the
criteria of the liberty ladies voice with a gun. "

Adventure, I dont think any of us are trying to say NO ONE should coem
over. I know I am not. And I efinitely am not saying to say no to
those that qualify (i.e. apply for visa and/or citizenship). What we
are all upset about isthe peoplethat try to coem over here and hide
without applying throught he proper channels, and those that then bring
violence and drugs and dierespect withthem as well. I have a lot of
good friends that came over here, and they do not refuse to learnthe
american language; they do not refuse to pay taxes, etc. And I know
that not all illegal immigrants are that way. But we have absolutely no
way of knowing who is that way and who isnt unless you apply for a visa,
and then ctizenship. Yes I am sorry that it has to take so long, but it
is the only way we can make sure you are who you are and that you are
safe. ALSO, we are not a neverending source of abundance. If we were
to let everyone in (assuming world peace here and no trouble or violence
or anything) we would literally dry up and float away in the wind.

Couldnt have said it better daniel. Well put and straight to the point I
have been preaching. There preaching thats religous....LMAO

lol thanks fanta now I feel better about talking in here..

Uh, I mean preaching...

question

are illegal mexican people to claim to be mexicans
and are really some other nationality

inquiering mind wants to know

that is a very good point adj and a very RELEVANT issue

Simple solution. We go to Mexico, overthrow their government and annex
them into the US. We get their oil, create jobs to build the
infrastructure down there and add to our tax base.

yep and a lot closer than iraq

Dave now I know why your dazzling !!


I thought amnesty was granted back in the eighties to all the illegals
who were here then.Today we need to be much more careful who we let
in.They need to fill out the forms and apply like everyone else.

okay cross post i put in other thread

Thu 04/12/07 07:31 PM
the illegal alien problem could be helped by cutting the foriegn
aid(welfare) program and using the money to secure borders by

hiring more border security and possibly buiding some more border
structures

detain those that illegally enter that are not under the threat of
persicution

and have them help to build the bourder structures for say 6 monthes to
pay their way back to their home land

just a thought

but hey what do i know

If you are illegal you are breaking the law it doesn't matter what
country you are from. Not all illegal aliens are from Mexico, must of
them are but there are plenty of other ilegals out there also.I work in
an industry were I must work with them I'm a kitchen manager. Last year
I was sent four illegals from H.R. Three of them had been in the country
only 2 months. They didn't speak any english and had no expericence
working in a resturant. I as really pissed when they showed up ready to
work they had no clue I couldn't properly train them and the couldn't
even read the menu. the state Colorado said that they were going to take
the hard line on illegals in the state. Colorado said they would fine
each employer $5000.00 per illegal. I have since left that company for
another and the problem is still there. There are over 12 million
illegal aliens in the United States and 10 ten million are from south of
the boarder. But you know what's funny about this. The Mexican American
thinks it a good thing and promote the crossing of more into our
country. It's a bad thing, a real bad thing in ten years.

In greeley colorado, they busted Monforts meats and arrested some of the
illegals, but there is a problem all over and it will be until someone
gets order. I know in Kentucky, there are illegals and no stings or
nothing has been done, but other states have this problem. I guess it
depends on the state.

They turn the blind eye thats why we need

Congressman Thomas G. "Tom" Tancredo
(Republican - Colorado)

for president...

I totally agree with what Rain said. The only reason why America is so
great today is because it is made up of people from so many rich
backgrounds. More than half of the people of the US have descendants
that were immigrants into this country, legal or not. They are in no way
stealing "our" jobs. They are simply doing the same amount of work for a
lesser price or doing the work that most people feel they are "too good"
to do. As a woman of mixed racial heritage, I am very sensitive to such
issues. I feel that the only reason "mainstream" Americans have a
problem with it is because we (and when I say we, I mean my fellow
Latinos and Hispanics) are brown. I can't say it much simpler than that.
I doubt this would be an issue if swarms of Europeans were coming here
illegally. And as for hurting the economy??? Ha! If anything they are
helping the economy. Cheap labor is cheap labor. If you can cut costs by
either getting someone to do the labor for less wages, or take away the
jobs from people that are demanding more money, that means that your
corporation will be making a greater amount of profit.

Bull****...............................

'and have them help to build the bourder structures for say 6 monthes to
pay their way back to their home land'

I do have a bit of problem with this statement.

Would that not be forced (slave) labor or are you advocating we pay
them. In which case they might decide to cross our border every 6
months or so just for the job. (would build up the border defenses
quite quickly so could be a good thing).

no i am advacating incarceration for commiting a crime

and giving them the opertunity to earn their way back to their homeland

as criminals a given work in a correctional facility

they will be given work in a holding area before returning to there
homeland

Pu$$Ywillow just because i live in HILLBILLYHELL doesnt make me one. No
buddy! I grew up out west. Girl! now thats just WRONG! I know alot of
really FINE people here in the south who bust that ARSE everyday to
provide for family AND friends AND our community. Now thats just RUBBISH
with that HILLBILLY crap.
fanta time to get yer doggie!!!!!

I am about to get ill as a lil hornet!

AMEN daniel!!!!!!