Topic: Consintration Camps
adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:27 AM
i hope yer right

but if the big concern is illegal immigration

why is the largest camp in alaska and not in arizona




adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:29 AM
and besides the federal govt would never lie to anyone would they

just ask the indians


ellgee1976's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:32 AM

i hope yer right

but if the big concern is illegal immigration

why is the largest camp in alaska and not in arizona






what's so wrong with Alaska? lol

ellgee1976's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:33 AM

and besides the federal govt would never lie to anyone would they

just ask the indians




i am indian...i think we've all grown since THAT time...

<insert eye roll here>

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:35 AM
well there i hope you are right

after all the govt is our friend

and never lie to us

good luck with that thinking


adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:39 AM

Jist....You have to take comfort knowing you could survive in hiding if need be. I know I do.......


Of course I do... Unlike many here.. I have tested that capability many times over in my life. Both with and without firearms.
Unlike others, as well.. I do not believe happiness is a warm gun!
Many of us here believe that all you need to survive is a weapon. That it is crucial.
When I read words such as... I've been around weapons since I was 5..So, I'm sure I can survive whatever comes my way... I'm actually reading.. I place my sense of false confidence in a piece of steel, that will merely draw undue attention to me, when I am too quick to use it in situations that do not warrant a weapon.

No matter. I do not respond well to fear mongering... Calling these camps potential concentration camps at this point? Is just that. In my opinion.

Being surprised by this is a strong indicator of someones awareness. Portraying the camps as the end result of the debate over gun control is manipulative at best.

Our Government has had the power and instruments in place to call martial law since we were 13 colonies trying to be a country.

This is not news.


50 years ago i may have agreed 75 years ago i would have

but we have a different type of person in the govt of today

and they have proven their contempt for the people
over and over again

this country is no longer

by the people fro the people
but
by the corporation for the corporation

it is all about the bottom line

and the insurance industry is a good example

no photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:41 AM
Edited by Jistme on Tue 03/18/08 08:42 AM

i hope yer right

but if the big concern is illegal immigration

why is the largest camp in alaska and not in arizona


From a security and available land standpoint.. I'd say the wilderness in Alaska is as good a place as any other.

We got a prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba too.. Why do you suppose that is? Because it is convenient?

and besides the federal govt would never lie to anyone would they

just ask the indians

Very true. To a point. During the Indian wars and the development of reservations... The Indians were not considered American Citizens. The lines of communication were much, much slower too. This analogy has it's limits. True..Though.. Our Government has lied and broke treaties with the Indian Nations.. Some cases are still being heard.
If I were you.. I'd stick with the Japanese and German camps we had in WWII as a better argument.

ellgee1976's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:42 AM

well there i hope you are right

after all the govt is our friend

and never lie to us

good luck with that thinking




"if ignorance is bliss...."

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:46 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 03/18/08 08:48 AM


i hope yer right

but if the big concern is illegal immigration

why is the largest camp in alaska and not in arizona


From a security and available land standpoint.. I'd say the wilderness in Alaska is as good a place as any other.

We got a prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba too.. Why do you suppose that is? Because it is convenient?

and besides the federal govt would never lie to anyone would they

just ask the indians

Very true. To a point. During the Indian wars and the development of reservations... The Indians were not considered American Citizens. The lines of communication were much, much slower too. This analogy has it's limits. True..Though.. Our Government has lied and broke treaties with the Indian Nations.. Some cases are still being heard.
If I were you.. I'd stick with the Japanese and German camps we had in WWII as a better argument.



it establishes a pattern

if the govt wants to

it does it

and who will be next

and cuba is off u s soil
that changes the rules of inturnment

no photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:49 AM


50 years ago i may have agreed 75 years ago i would have

but we have a different type of person in the govt of today

and they have proven their contempt for the people
over and over again

this country is no longer

by the people fro the people
but
by the corporation for the corporation

it is all about the bottom line

and the insurance industry is a good example


We have weathered bad Administrations before...
One man, even an assembly of men... cannot bring this country to it's knees, in the way you are suggesting.
We are not post WWI Germany. It is not the 1930's.

For as f*cked up as this country can possibly be, and in many ways is.. The situation we are in has not happened within the past 12 years. We have been in this boat since the origin of this Country.

It is business as usual.

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:52 AM
drinker drinker drinker

hope yer right

no photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:52 AM


and cuba is off u s soil
that changes the rules of inturnment



My point exactly. There are other reasons for placement possible... Things that you are not considering. Other than convenience.
The terms of internment in a condition of Martial Law? What do you suppose those might be?

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:53 AM


well there i hope you are right

after all the govt is our friend

and never lie to us

good luck with that thinking




"if ignorance is bliss...."


you seem to be happy today

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

drinker drinker drinker drinker

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:54 AM



and cuba is off u s soil
that changes the rules of inturnment



My point exactly. There are other reasons for placement possible... Things that you are not considering. Other than convenience.
The terms of internment in a condition of Martial Law? What do you suppose those might be?


anything the dhs deems an emergancy

ellgee1976's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:57 AM



well there i hope you are right

after all the govt is our friend

and never lie to us

good luck with that thinking




"if ignorance is bliss...."


you seem to be happy today

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

drinker drinker drinker drinker


again, showing your ignorance

ShadowLands's photo
Tue 03/18/08 08:59 AM
Edited by ShadowLands on Tue 03/18/08 08:59 AM

prison and prison camps same thing what iam talking about is diffrent there are no rules no laws you can be tourcherd and you will be slaved read about the last consintration camps you can research it online or google it. The only thing they show is what was done then we have thousands more ways to tourcher a person now
You know....your argument would seem much more valid if you would learn to spell. Never mind learning computers...you need to go back to elementary school and learn to spell. Then we can move up to grammar and punctuation.

Concentration

Torture

As in....My concentration keeps slipping away because it is sheer torture reading your illiterate posts. Now, take your meds and go back to your room.

no photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:07 AM

and cuba is off u s soil
that changes the rules of inturnment


On the contrary - The prison is on Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo Bay) base, which is a U.S. military base. Ergo - since it is a military base, it becomes U.S. soil under our laws, and subject to those same laws.

Thinking 30 seconds past conspiracy time - IF it was a super-secret military base used to illegally detain civilians - You certainly wouldn't know about it, and the military commanders darn well wouldn't allow pictures.

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:10 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 03/18/08 09:11 AM
laugh laugh laugh

i guess yer not happy today then

adj4u's photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:20 AM
Its usual function—to guarantee fundamental freedoms and cap the powers of police and government—is morphing into the opposite, a suspension of constitutional order.

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Such action affects foreign nationals accused of terrorism or U.S. citizens labeled as “enemy combatants” by the Pentagon, and whose constitutional guarantee that they would not be deprived of liberty without due process of law has been suspended with the approval of the U.S. Supreme Court.


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The Patriot Act sanctions unlimited detention of foreign nationals suspected of taking part in or being a member of an organization listed as terrorist by the executive. The executive order of November 13, 2001, set up ad hoc military commissions to try those accused of participating in or supporting such organizations. Trials can be conducted in secret and—contrary to military law—there is no civil appeal procedure. These ad hoc military courts are a clear departure from both U.S. criminal and military law.

Over 1,200 people have been arrested and detained without charge since September 11, 2001, in most cases on no apparent grounds other than of being Arabic, Muslim, or South-East Asian in origin. Most have since been released, but some are still being held uncharged.1 These people in most cases have been deprived of the right to counsel or to challenge their detention. While in custody, they have been maltreated, tortured, and prevented from practicing their religion, all in flagrant violation of the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, ratified by the United States


http://www.monthlyreview.org/0505paye.htm

ya should really read the complete article

no photo
Tue 03/18/08 09:21 AM

Jist....You have to take comfort knowing you could survive in hiding if need be. I know I do.......


Of course I do... Unlike many here.. I have tested that capability many times over in my life. Both with and without firearms.
Unlike others, as well.. I do not believe happiness is a warm gun!
Many of us here believe that all you need to survive is a weapon. That it is crucial.
When I read words such as... I've been around weapons since I was 5..So, I'm sure I can survive whatever comes my way... I'm actually reading.. I place my sense of false confidence in a piece of steel, that will merely draw undue attention to me, when I am too quick to use it in situations that do not warrant a weapon.

No matter. I do not respond well to fear mongering... Calling these camps potential concentration camps at this point? Is just that. In my opinion.

Being surprised by this is a strong indicator of someones awareness. Portraying the camps as the end result of the debate over gun control is manipulative at best.

Our Government has had the power and instruments in place to call martial law since we were 13 colonies trying to be a country.

This is not news.

QFT

I really couldnt have put it better myself.