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Topic: No Torture. No Exceptions.
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Fri 03/14/08 09:25 PM
We will never win a battle by being kind and overly sympathetic.


If people were all kind and sympathetic, there would be no battles. But I am told that that this is not the case. (It might be a very boring world if everyone was kind and sympathetic. Like Little house on the Prairie. LOL) eeww

Have you ever heard of "Kill them with kindness?" I wonder how that works. Candy that's it! Give them sugar and candy. Put sugar in all of their food. They'll get fat and lazy. Give them all televisions sets and fill their minds with propaganda. That'll corrode their entire society as they all become couch potatoes, ~~like it has done to America.

JB

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Fri 03/14/08 09:27 PM
Look at that war over there, it has lasted for generations. It would end in one generation if you would give them all televisions and lots of sugar. I'm serious.

It could happen!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile ohwell

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Fri 03/14/08 09:52 PM

Look at that war over there, it has lasted for generations. It would end in one generation if you would give them all televisions and lots of sugar. I'm serious.

It could happen!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile ohwell


Reruns of The Three Stooges?????

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Sat 03/15/08 12:22 AM

Look at that war over there, it has lasted for generations. It would end in one generation if you would give them all televisions and lots of sugar. I'm serious.

It could happen!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile ohwell


laugh laugh flowerforyou flowerforyou drinker drinker

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Sat 03/15/08 04:12 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 03/15/08 04:13 PM
THIS JUST IN: bigsmile

In the event you do not wish to believe in UFO abductions being carried out by actual aliens.. (or non-human life forms) you can (maybe) explain some of these things by this report written by:
Martin Cannon

This is just part of the report, but rather there are aliens or not it will give you some idea about what kind of things are going on in the area of torture and mind control etc. If you want a copy of the report send me a message with your email and I will send it to you in HTML form. ~JB

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Title:
THE CONTROLLERS:
A New Hypothesis of Alien Abduction

_____________............

....;;Substantial evidence exists linking members of this country's intelligence community (including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and the Office of Naval Intelligence) with the esoteric technology of MIND CONTROL.

For decades,"spy-chiatrists" working behind the scenes -- on college campuses, in CIA-sponsored institutes, and (most heinously) in prisons -- have experimented with the erasure of memory, hypnotic resistance to torture, truth serums, post-hypnotic suggestion, rapid induction of hypnosis,
electronic stimulation of the brain, non-ionizing radiation, microwave induction of intracerebral "voices," and a host of even more disturbing technologies. Some of the projects exploring these areas were ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD, PANDORA, MKDELTA, MKSEARCH and the infamous MKULTRA.


I have read nearly every available book on these projects, as well as the relevant congressional testimony[5]. I have also spent much time in university libraries researching relevant articles, contacting other researchers (who have graciously allowed me access to their files), and conducting interviews. Moreover, I traveled to Washington, DC to review the files John Marks compiled when he wrote THE SEARCH FOR "THE MANCHURIAN
CANDIDATE".

These files include some 20,000 pages of CIA and Defense
Department documents, interviews, scientific articles, letters, etc. The views presented here are the result of extensive and ongoing research.

As a result of this research, I have come to the following conclusions:


1. Although misleading (and occasionally perjured) testimony before Congress indicated that the CIA's "brainwashing" efforts met with little success[7], striking advances were, in fact, made in this field.

As CIA veteran Miles Copeland once admitted to a reporter, "The congressional subcommittee which went into this sort of thing got only the barest glimpse."

2. Clandestine research into thought manipulation has NOT stopped, despite CIA protestations that it no longer sponsors such studies. Victor Marchetti, 14-year veteran of the CIA and author of the renown expose, THE CIA AND THE CULT OF INTELLIGENCE, confirmed in a 1977 interview that the
mind control research continues, and that CIA claims to the contrary are a "cover story."

3. The Central Intelligence Agency was not the only government agency involved in this research. Indeed, many branches of our government took part in these studies -- including NASA, the Atomic Energy Commission, as well as all branches of the Defense Department.

To these conclusions I would append the following -- NOT as firmly- established historical fact, but as a working hypothesis and grounds for investigation:

4. The "UFO abduction" phenomenon MIGHT be a continuation of clandestine mind control operations.


JB



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Sun 03/16/08 09:57 AM
WHAT do UFOs have to do with this thread?yawn huh

Lindyy
PTL
:heart:

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Sun 03/16/08 01:54 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 03/16/08 01:56 PM
Read the post again and you will find that it was meant to show what the CIA is doing and the torture it engages in without the permission or sanction of the government or the people.

If you want to believe that aliens are involved in abductions or whether you believe that some other evil organization is doing the abductions ... it does not change the fact of what these secret operations (Black ops) are doing and have been doing.

Torture.

It is about torture. The conclusion of this report is that there may be no real aliens involved but that the kidnapping and torture of innocents is definitely happening.... done by either Black Ops ........... or aliens.

But the investigator concluded that the kidnapping and torture and mind control techniques are definitely a reality.

Personally, I think they are both involved.

JB

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Sun 03/16/08 02:00 PM
drinker I still believe in the Constitution and it says torture is illegal.drinker I dont care what our corrupt government says, Im still going by the Constitution of the Founding Fathersdrinker

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Sun 03/16/08 02:03 PM
flowerforyou I love America but I dont like what I see it becoming. flowerforyou I liked it much better when Americans were the "good guys" and we didnt torture and do some of this other weird stuff thats been going on.flowerforyou

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Sun 03/16/08 02:15 PM
maybe all the anti gun people should be tortured

then they will want a gun

so they can keep it from happenig again

bigsmile bigsmile

:wink: :wink:

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

yes this is a joke

shheeezzzzzzz lighten up

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Sun 03/16/08 02:16 PM

flowerforyou I love America but I dont like what I see it becoming. flowerforyou I liked it much better when Americans were the "good guys" and we didnt torture and do some of this other weird stuff thats been going on.flowerforyou


yep me to

now it is getting to the point of replacing 60% of

nazi germany and it sux and the **people** need to take

back the govt instead of serving for it

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Sun 03/16/08 02:22 PM
The Internet will change the world in the next few years...
People will have access to information. They will be able to talk to each other. They can stop watching television where their minds turn into mush.

I stopped watching television in January. I feel much better. Television, news, advertisement, slanted movies, sitcoms, all work to mold the minds of the people. They want to know what you think so they know what kind of propaganda to bombard you with.

The people have the power if they would only think for themselves and demand the truth and stop listening to the lies. Ask for proof, don't just take their words for it.

JB

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Sun 03/16/08 02:27 PM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 03/16/08 02:28 PM

The Internet will change the world in the next few years...
People will have access to information. They will be able to talk to each other. They can stop watching television where their minds turn into mush.

I stopped watching television in January. I feel much better. Television, news, advertisement, slanted movies, sitcoms, all work to mold the minds of the people. They want to know what you think so they know what kind of propaganda to bombard you with.

The people have the power if they would only think for themselves and demand the truth and stop listening to the lies. Ask for proof, don't just take their words for it.

JB


but the internet is under attack as much as the firearms

it is just not as well known yet

we are in the pioneer days of internet control

and if you read the patriot act the passing of information is illegal

step 1

glasses glasses <<<----i hope they are not watching

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Sun 03/16/08 08:40 PM
Are you referring to internet neutrality?

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Sun 03/16/08 08:51 PM


The Internet will change the world in the next few years...
People will have access to information. They will be able to talk to each other. They can stop watching television where their minds turn into mush.

I stopped watching television in January. I feel much better. Television, news, advertisement, slanted movies, sitcoms, all work to mold the minds of the people. They want to know what you think so they know what kind of propaganda to bombard you with.

The people have the power if they would only think for themselves and demand the truth and stop listening to the lies. Ask for proof, don't just take their words for it.

JB


but the internet is under attack as much as the firearms

it is just not as well known yet

we are in the pioneer days of internet control

and if you read the patriot act the passing of information is illegal

step 1

glasses glasses <<<----i hope they are not watching


The government is not smart enough to stop the flow of information in my humble Opinion. IMHO.

They would like to classify everything to cover their corruption. CLASSIFIED is 90% COVERUP of corruption.

The hackers lay in wait to protect the Internet. The only way to stop it is to crash the entire grid, and I would not put it past them to do that.

If they ever start trying to suppress freedom of information, and freedom of the Internet in this country, then they will have lost their claim that we are fighting for our freedom, because we will have no freedom. Of course in a case like this they will scream "National security." blah blah blah.

He who gives up his freedom for their liberty... deserves neither. The reason for all the hype about terrorism is to terrorize the people until they give up their freedom in exchange for feeling safe. The terrorists are not who you think they are.


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