You ask and then charge him with the crime of attempted murder and put him away and continue to do your job. I cannot see where there is a problem here.

I know for a fact that gathering intel is not limited to torturing those who might know something. So you cannot tell me that without that option that people are going to die for sure, any more than after you torture him and people still die cause he did not know anything. Maybe he acted alone and he knows nothing. One cannot be sure and because of this one fact torture is not a viable option, ever.

POW's are captured as a sign of humanity! If not, they would just shoot them on the battlefield! They are held captive to remove a resource from the enemies hands. Their only crime is that of every soldier, Fighting for a cause the feel is worth giving their life for.

The terrorist captured by law enforcement are criminals. According to the Geneva Conventions, they can be shot as a spy!
I will draw the line at certain kinds of interrogation however. Torture is evil.
It is a game played with rules that dictate bringing a suspect to the brink of death, or the illusion of death, repeatedly!
It is wicked, cruel, and requires an evil person void of humanity to perform!
It is EVIL!!

Besides all of that, if torture was so dam effective, Bush would have this whole situation in Iraq and Afghan under wraps because he has been doing it all along. So why is the war not over, all problems resolved from all the torture going on????

Bush as President is our torture!!

We should exile him to Canada..

Oh and speaking of that, my cousin married a special ops marine, who had issues from his training. He tortured her cat horribly in front of her to get her to stay with him. He tortured her with his "torture" knowledge to control her. She was lucky to get away from him with her life.

The people who perform these things should not be let loose on us after the military is done with them

The yanke is in Canada right? He would take Bush in, I am sure

Amazing!!

It would not matter if each act of torture were described in detail, someone would probably find a way to get past the fine print. I would hate to be the person to write that manual.

How to you train a person who's job it will be to torture?

In some countries, they take young boys and train them. They give them a choice. Either become a torturer or be tortured yourself. I read a story from a man who was trained in torture. He chose to be a torturer. He hated it, but finally got hard and used to it. He said there were some boys who would not do it and so they endured the torture.

So how does one train for a job like that? It makes me want to puke.

JB

Hey!!!


That's it Fanta! You just blew it. Now you won't be Premier of Canada South.

I don't know about torture, but I have always said that my idea of hell is to be tied up and forced to watch "Little House on the Prairie" for eternity.

I guess that would be the best way to torture me.

I had a brother who could endure any kind of pain and torture. I am quite sure I could have cut off a finger and he would not have ever said "uncle" But all I had to do is tickle him and he would scream uncle all over the place.

Tickle em!

Karma,,,

tickle em!!!

What's wrong with "Little House on the Prairie"?

so many torture threads...

always must state this, torture does not work.

as someone else said, torture only gets you the answers the one being tortured thinks you want to hear.

My version of hell would be listening to Muzak versions of 60s songs through all eternity.

Its preachy, idealistic, unrealistic, and like a fable, it always has a moral to the story. And personally, I just don't like it.

Michael Landen had a terrible dysfunctional family growing up, and so he wanted to try to teach people about the perfect loving family and what he thought a normal family should be like.

In his own life, his family loved him and he was the perfect father. Until he left his wife and married another younger woman and started all over again... another perfect family. His first family of course, was shocked. Daddy just up and left.
So much for all his preaching.

Drew's the Man!

mmkay, i will say that torture alone does not work. you throw in some mind games, and it's hard to keep lying. Does it make it right? Hell no. Besides, it's more psychological than anything. This is why i say i have no problems what so even with the usage of certain drugs (under close medical supervision), the use of sleep deprivation, even things like forced standing. Yeah it sucks, but this really isn't a game. Torture is wrong in every way shap and form. But you can't keep our soldiers from interrogating those that are trying to kill them and still pretend to care about their safety. War is very much "us or them". There are a lot of extenuating circumstances i can understand. But saying that putting a known terrorist in an 8x8 cell is torture is a bit absurd. Nor sleep depriving him to make him disoriented. This if the guy was caught in the act and might know something to prevent further violence. Anyhow, as i was saying, i am a former U.S. army paratrooper and a veteran of several actual, real world, firefights. I have met dosens of know terrorists and insurgents. (Yes, i know there is a difference) I would like to think i use the warrior code. I would like to think that i am a constitutionalist. And once again i do tell you that torture is just as wrong as war is, and no two wrongs don't make a right. We will never win a battle by being kind and overly sympathetic. So that is why i am tolerant of CERTAIN methods of interrogation.

Nicely worded. Deal with the threat.


And further more, i am convinced, given the mentallity of our enemy and what they are used to from authoritive figures i would say that one of the reasons this conflict is taking so long is the fact that we are exercising proper rules of engagement and we aren't torturing often. We are honestly viewed as have a powerful Army but a weak resolve. They know Americans are a bunch of bleeding hearts. Once again, they only fear confronting us in conventional battle. They don't fear being capture, or even us retaliating. Do you really think after Somalia, and the bombing of a U.S. ship (back in 2000ish) that they knew we would fight back for 9/11? They were expecting us to be devistaded and maybe bump up homeland security a notch. They look for weaknesses and they exploit them. To them kindess is a weakness. I have personal experiences to back up this theory.