Topic: Who is a real man!
davidben1's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:28 AM


NO...to debate without personal attacks and name calling....please....if you want to ask her out there are better ways....smiles


He doesn't have any need or desire to ask me out, thank you very much. That would be pointless. I'm thinking, though (as if I did not already know for certain) that he was exactly who I had in mind when defining a "real man".

.... most especially the part where I wrote "does not express anger outwardly to others"....


u are so funny......you mistake courage for anger, and think feelings are truth....

no photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:28 AM

red hen.
nic pic..


Thanks the nude one is by request. bigsmile

longhairbiker's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:30 AM
<-----picture of gypsy driving at 85 years old.

davidben1's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:32 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 03/06/08 10:34 AM



NO...to debate without personal attacks and name calling....please....if you want to ask her out there are better ways....smiles


Thats the point! She did not personally attack you. That is your perception. Then.. you went for her throat.

My next point is this. An honest question.
Your reaction to your perception.. If you truly did agree with some of what I wrote about the topic at hand... How do you reconcile the two things in your mind?

Where I stand? They look as if they are in conflict.



News flash.....she asked if i was on drugs.....that is not a personal attack, and please if you say i went for her throat, tell me what vicious thing that i said of her.....i have thought since day one here she was cute and admired her for being one that speaks her mind, so where you are coming from please tell me....you got the wrong picture here....besides, everybody knows that sometimes passions about things need to be spoken or we live without passion....it is NO BIG DEAL....i have repeatedly said she was cool because that is what i really think.....

notready4rockeryet's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:33 AM
one who can take critasism as well as dish it out. the man im looking for will take things in stride and not be a worrie wart

no photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:34 AM

<-----picture of gypsy driving at 85 years old.
No thats me now!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

davidben1's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:45 AM
for anyone that has read this forum.....nothing comes without a price, and i respect her for all her opions and every other one here, and to disagree is not a bad thing, but rather bring two to a place of common ground.....nothing good ever came by good alone...thanks lilith for the great debate....i sincerely enjoyed a little mental stimulation.....not many women can provide such.....smiles

ps....i do not claim to be a good man, nor a smart man, nor a man with integrity, but knowing and seeing i am none of these is my only hope to be a friend to anything.

lilith401's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:48 AM
You are welcome. That was written more clearly than any other. And just so you know, I don't take kindly for sarcastic suggestions as to what activities you think I might or might not need to engage in based on your views of how I act or present myself. That is a personal attack... your response to my questions was vitriolic. I'll consider your last two posts an apology. flowerforyou

chuck366's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:51 AM

You are welcome. That was written more clearly than any other. And just so you know, I don't take kindly for sarcastic suggestions as to what activities you think I might or might not need to engage in based on your views of how I act or present myself. That is a personal attack... your response to my questions was vitriolic. I'll consider your last two posts an apology. flowerforyou


Kapow!

adj4u's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:52 AM
insert just passing thru emoticon here

no photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:58 AM

News flash.....she asked if i was on drugs.....that is not a personal attack, and please if you say i went for her throat, tell me what vicious thing that i said of her.....i have thought since day one here she was cute and admired her for being one that speaks her mind, so where you are coming from please tell me....you got the wrong picture here....besides, everybody knows that sometimes passions about things need to be spoken or we live without passion....it is NO BIG DEAL....i have repeatedly said she was cool because that is what i really think.....


That's all.. She asked a question.. One you could have answered with a yes or no. Not.. 'You are on drugs.' Yet.. admittedly you took it as a slant to your character.

She said your post was convoluted. She never called you ignorant. Again though... you were clearly insulted.

perhaps a few would widen your mind a bit...there is nothing i am saying that is not on most television shows, in movie after movie.....you live by laws of good in your own mind, ideas of what makes a good person....i accept and only discuss what i believe.....you stoop to accusing of drugs and calling others convaluded and ignorant....so than who be the convaluded less it be one that accuse of such....if another can bring you to such a state of misery with words that you do not even have to read....damn, you would be sooooooooo hostile....obviously it is apparent to all what is in your secret heart....distain for anything that does not agree with you.....a sad place to live and where no happiness exists....a beer and a few wild nights is on order for the stressed out beautiful lady....and by the ****ing way....if you choose to insult others here send it to my email as a REAL women would do


Which part of this is not a justification or an attack? How does her misery in her secret heart, her disdain, her sad place, her lack of happiness... suggesting she act like a 'Real woman' yada yada.. not be construed as an outright slant on her character. A clear retaliation. Which she did not ever react to.

Then..you move pretty quickly to my motive being only to get her to go out with me.

All of this.. is really very much on topic. It leads me back to the question of.. If you truly believe that your internal wisdom is your gauge?
Why is it you took her words so personally?

It can make a person wonder if your beliefs and actions are in direct conflict.

Just to clarify... I am asking questions. Not implying anything.. not trying to insult.

davidben1's photo
Thu 03/06/08 10:59 AM


You are welcome. That was written more clearly than any other. And just so you know, I don't take kindly for sarcastic suggestions as to what activities you think I might or might not need to engage in based on your views of how I act or present myself. That is a personal attack... your response to my questions was vitriolic. I'll consider your last two posts an apology. flowerforyou


Kapow!


a man can take a sucker punch from a women when he knows she is just weak and knows it is hard for anything to admit when it is wrong.....certainly anything with more than convaluded hopes in their own wisdom does not have to exalt itself to make itself feel better, but if this is what you need so be it.....more power to you girl....it is obvious that this will not end on any good terms as you only wish to perpetuate what you think make you a smart gal....truly a sad place to live

chuck366's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:04 AM
I break open oreo's and lick the creamy middle

chuck366's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:04 AM
Edited by chuck366 on Thu 03/06/08 11:04 AM

lilith401's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:17 AM
DavidBen1~~

Perhaps you need to go back a few pages and read my post with Littleredhen... I had misconstrued her intent due to a quoting error and once we realized what happened... I admitted I was wrong and why. Then we agreed to agree. I'm very far from always right.

I'm not sure you understand the word convoluted. It is an adjective about your writing and has nothing to do with you as a person.

If you think I am weak, or bitter, or angry and emotional... with apparently a heart defect(?) ... you are most welcome to feel however you want. As we both know, it is only important what we each think and feel about ourselves, as we are strangers. I take comfort in knowing I never attacked you, for you'd know if I did. I feel nothing about the fact that you did attack me.



I love Oreos, Chuck... but I like to dunk them in milk... sounds good. flowerforyou

62easygoing's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:19 AM
A real man treats a women right always.

WhAt111's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:19 AM
well im a real man i guess..

chuck366's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:20 AM

A real man treats a women right always.


yup! All of them.

adj4u's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:21 AM
con·vo·lut·ed (knv-ltd)
adj.
1. Having numerous overlapping coils or folds: a convoluted seashell.
2. Intricate; complicated: convoluted legal language; convoluted reasoning.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/convoluted

bigsmile

franshade's photo
Thu 03/06/08 11:21 AM
<~~~ 100% womandrinker flowerforyou

but have been known to have more "cojones" than most men at times :wink: