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A real man does not play by any set of rules. He knows whats right in his heart and does what is just and right no matter what the ramifications are upon himself. Real integrity is better than abiding the law. For example if you have a cause you really believe in & you commit an act of civil disobedience to try to change a law, then the ramification may be going to jail, but your integrity is still intact. I do believe integrity is the basis for making desisions. Sometimes I am selfish & let it waver, but I am trying to be a better person. If you are talking about a "real man" who has no responsiblities, no family, no accountibility for day to day life... A real man would choose taking care of his responsibilities while maintaining his values and beliefs the best he can. He would be accountible for his integrity. Not foolish. |
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nothing is real except what speak their whole mind and feeling to all, as anything else is a FAKE, and so will act as a fake does, letting all down they claim to care about and then even themself in the dreadful end. Bravo............. Real is what we do on a daily basis. Every second, every minute. Fake is the lies we tell ourselves to drown out the Real. a wise one for sure |
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Edited by
davidben1
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Thu 03/06/08 09:18 AM
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nothing except what has been convinced it is bad need to TRY with effort to be good, and even in doing so the actions and preaching of others to be good show the person that preach this is themselves afraid of evil, so evil then THEY believe in and will overtake them.....why anyting that live to be a good person will cut itself off from love from all except those that do the same, and then only the selfish love of treat me right or else will exist between the two
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A real man will chew my food for me when Im old...
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what? ......it is the way the human mind works.....it pull us toward what the mind say, and listen not to our own heart but refect it out and say others should do this and do that, never seeing the guide within is for each himself.....no great thing has ever happened without it looking like bad at first.....you yourself believe in unconditonal love do you not
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I agree, but "if its not for you to judge" you are concerned or at least respecting the opinion of others opinions of if you being a"real man" I am a critic to my own behavior. Not what others think of me. Considering many others out there live by "worldy and unethical"(to me) standards at times. There are some who's opinion, suggestions and example do matter, but only to a limit. I try not to allow myself to internalize those things as mine. If I am being true to myself... and that falls short of anyone's mark? Then that is none of my business. If I am not being true to self.. I might need to take a closer look. My motive is not to seek anyone's approval, or please anyone else but me. I do that by trying to stay in touch with my internal wisdom. If I am doing that right? I stand a chance of pleasing those around me as a by product. Displeasing others as well. In that.. My only bench mark is within me. I've got nothing to prove outside of me. So...in that? It is not within my best interest to convince anyone.. including myself, of anything. Proclaiming publicly, I am something? Takes me out of self. Takes me out of doing the next right thing. |
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A real man does not play by any set of rules. He knows whats right in his heart and does what is just and right no matter what the ramifications are upon himself. Real integrity is better than abiding the law. For example if you have a cause you really believe in & you commit an act of civil disobedience to try to change a law, then the ramification may be going to jail, but your integrity is still intact. I do believe integrity is the basis for making desisions. Sometimes I am selfish & let it waver, but I am trying to be a better person. If you are talking about a "real man" who has no responsiblities, no family, no accountibility for day to day life... A real man would choose taking care of his responsibilities while maintaining his values and beliefs the best he can. He would be accountible for his integrity. Not foolish. Sure, I don't disagree with that. I am wondering what your definition of integrity is, it is not "my way at all costs" it is doing the right thing, after careful consideration of the consequences. Your "right thing" may differ from mine. From Wikpedia----- Integrity is the basing of one's actions on an internally consistent framework of principles. Depth of principles and adherence of each level to the next are key determining factors. One is said to have integrity to the extent that everything one does and believes is based on the same core set of values. While those values may change, it is their consistency with each other and with the person's actions that determine the person's integrity. The concept of integrity is directly linked to responsibility in that implementation spawning from principles is designed with a specific outcome in mind. When the action fails to achieve the desired effect, a change of principles is indicated. Accountability is achieved when a faulty principle is identified and changed to produce a more useful action. |
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Edited by
lilith401
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Thu 03/06/08 09:33 AM
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DavidBen1~~~
No, dude I seriously meant, "huh" as in your post is convoluted and not written in correct sentence structure. My head aches from trying to decipher it. I did not read your reply, once I saw it was not an attempt to translate the first into something intelligible.
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A real man will chew my food for me when Im old...   you must be a member of Peccy's fan club!
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Edited by
lilith401
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A real man does not play by any set of rules. He knows whats right in his heart and does what is just and right no matter what the ramifications are upon himself. Real integrity is better than abiding the law. For example if you have a cause you really believe in & you commit an act of civil disobedience to try to change a law, then the ramification may be going to jail, but your integrity is still intact. I do believe integrity is the basis for making desisions. Sometimes I am selfish & let it waver, but I am trying to be a better person. If you are talking about a "real man" who has no responsiblities, no family, no accountibility for day to day life... A real man would choose taking care of his responsibilities while maintaining his values and beliefs the best he can. He would be accountible for his integrity. Not foolish. Sure, I don't disagree with that. I am wondering what your definition of integrity is, it is not "my way at all costs" it is doing the right thing, after careful consideration of the consequences. Your "right thing" may differ from mine. From Wikpedia----- Integrity is the basing of one's actions on an internally consistent framework of principles. Depth of principles and adherence of each level to the next are key determining factors. One is said to have integrity to the extent that everything one does and believes is based on the same core set of values. While those values may change, it is their consistency with each other and with the person's actions that determine the person's integrity. The concept of integrity is directly linked to responsibility in that implementation spawning from principles is designed with a specific outcome in mind. When the action fails to achieve the desired effect, a change of principles is indicated. Accountability is achieved when a faulty principle is identified and changed to produce a more useful action. Are you reading everything you wrote here? You do not see any waffling or inconsistency????? |
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a real man, well hopefully hes true to himself and lives by what he says...
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A real man does not play by any set of rules. He knows whats right in his heart and does what is just and right no matter what the ramifications are upon himself. Real integrity is better than abiding the law. For example if you have a cause you really believe in & you commit an act of civil disobedience to try to change a law, then the ramification may be going to jail, but your integrity is still intact. I do believe integrity is the basis for making desisions. Sometimes I am selfish & let it waver, but I am trying to be a better person. If you are talking about a "real man" who has no responsiblities, no family, no accountibility for day to day life... A real man would choose taking care of his responsibilities while maintaining his values and beliefs the best he can. He would be accountible for his integrity. Not foolish. Sure, I don't disagree with that. I am wondering what your definition of integrity is, it is not "my way at all costs" it is doing the right thing, after careful consideration of the consequences. Your "right thing" may differ from mine. From Wikpedia----- Integrity is the basing of one's actions on an internally consistent framework of principles. Depth of principles and adherence of each level to the next are key determining factors. One is said to have integrity to the extent that everything one does and believes is based on the same core set of values. While those values may change, it is their consistency with each other and with the person's actions that determine the person's integrity. The concept of integrity is directly linked to responsibility in that implementation spawning from principles is designed with a specific outcome in mind. When the action fails to achieve the desired effect, a change of principles is indicated. Accountability is achieved when a faulty principle is identified and changed to produce a more useful action. Are you reading everything you wrote here? You do not see any waffling or inconsistency????? ummmm no I am really trying to see your point. I think we agree more than disagree, maybe I am not expessing myself well? |
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Edited by
davidben1
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Thu 03/06/08 09:41 AM
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I agree, but "if its not for you to judge" you are concerned or at least respecting the opinion of others opinions of if you being a"real man" I am a critic to my own behavior. Not what others think of me. Considering many others out there live by "worldy and unethical"(to me) standards at times. There are some who's opinion, suggestions and example do matter, but only to a limit. I try not to allow myself to internalize those things as mine. If I am being true to myself... and that falls short of anyone's mark? Then that is none of my business. If I am not being true to self.. I might need to take a closer look. My motive is not to seek anyone's approval, or please anyone else but me. I do that by trying to stay in touch with my internal wisdom. If I am doing that right? I stand a chance of pleasing those around me as a by product. Displeasing others as well. In that.. My only bench mark is within me. I've got nothing to prove outside of me. So...in that? It is not within my best interest to convince anyone.. including myself, of anything. Proclaiming publicly, I am something? Takes me out of self. Takes me out of doing the next right thing. hell yea man....the secret you have found.....if what i do makes another happy so be it....until this is known all around are dissapointed anyhow as they look from you for themselves.....what more is uncondtional love between two than two doing what they want and it make EACH happy.....staying true for the sake of right will make to fail anyhow no matter how hard something try to do good......like if i gotta think it is my responsibility to do what i love which is caring for those i love, this thinking will rob my own heart of the desire, and turn it into a taskmaster that rule over and bring anything to it's knees.....the desire to be good keep all from the very awesomeness that is in each thing that breaths |
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DavidBen1~~~ No, dude I seriously meant, "huh" as in your post is convoluted and not written in correct sentence structure. My head aches from trying to decipher it. I did not read your reply, once I saw it was not an attempt to translate the first into something intelligible. so sorry |
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Edited by
johnboy072472
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Thu 03/06/08 09:39 AM
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oops
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A real man stands by his values and always does what is right...
A real man does not take advantage of people... A real man always takes the high road... A real man always takes care of his children and the woman in his life... Even when she does not deserve it.... A real man thinks before he does... A real man be not vengeful or spitefull... A real man puts others before hisself... |
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A real man does not play by any set of rules. He knows whats right in his heart and does what is just and right no matter what the ramifications are upon himself. Real integrity is better than abiding the law. You do not have to break the law to maintain integrity, nor would it ever be acceptable. What integrity is... is to maintain your beliefs while being responsible and accountable. Not reckless. That means you do abide by two sets of rules, not the "none" you subscribe to. The rules of society, and the rules you set for yourself based on your sense of integrity. |
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Edited by
davidben1
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Thu 03/06/08 09:48 AM
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A real man does not play by any set of rules. He knows whats right in his heart and does what is just and right no matter what the ramifications are upon himself. Real integrity is better than abiding the law. You do not have to break the law to maintain integrity, nor would it ever be acceptable. What integrity is... is to maintain your beliefs while being responsible and accountable. Not reckless. That means you do abide by two sets of rules, not the "none" you subscribe to. The rules of society, and the rules you set for yourself based on your sense of integrity. anything that does not question laws will be ruled by tyrants.....many lawas were broken at the boston tea party....it is not laws that man is to follow, but rather a real man accepts the consequences of his actions.....this is to not live in fear of a law, but rather to know that they are all made by men and as we all know, NOTHING IS PERFECT.... |
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Are you on drugs?
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