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Topic: A Thank-You Note to George W. Bush
madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 07:36 AM
hahahahahahahahahaha silly rabbit, trix are for pro's.... mama said madmen are like outhouses. hey buddy, have another shot of whatever your on and send me some too.... you know if its so bad i hear that they are accepting applications for the job,,,, you could do better? or are you a sideline quarter back who is unable to take the field? sorry your wasteing your life in Iraq bro but its not my fault.If I could send ya a shot I would Someday i hope you end up in a position where you have to face one of your enemies. You may be singing a different tune, although most likely you wouldn't be singing at all. Anyhowasn't it you that posted this heart warming thread about all these poor innocent iraqi civilians getting killed. WHAT THE EFF DO YOU THINK WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT!?! Honestly lets say we pull out now. What do you think would happen, in your ever-lasting wisdom? You think everyone would put down their guns and things would go smoothly? You think Iraq would be in peace? That's ok though, we will keep fighting. For ......people... like you. We will keep fighting and dying so you can sit there in the comfort of your living room and criticize every move we make. Continue to take your freedom for granted because it's not like we will ever stop dying for people like you. Because unlike you we know what the world is really like. madman....... Pleaseeeeeeeeee read the above and apologize to this gentleman and all the other men/women who are in Iraq fighting. there is nothing to apologise for, even the dimmest of bulbs at this point understand that Iraq had nothing to do with those who attacked Us on 911 and in fat the actions in Iraq have increased the likelyhood of more terrorism.

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Wed 02/27/08 07:40 AM
madman....even the dimmest of bulbs at this point think that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists and in fact the actions in Iraq have decreased the likelyhood of more terrorism attacks in the US

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 07:51 AM
madman....even the dimmest of bulbs at this point think that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists and in fact the actions in Iraq have decreased the likelyhood of more terrorism attacks in the US "If we were not fighting and destroying this enemy in Iraq, they would not be idle. They would be plotting and killing Americans across the world and within our own borders. By fighting these terrorists in Iraq, Americans in uniform are defeating a direct threat to the American people." So said President Bush on November 30, 2005, refining his earlier call to "bring them on." Jihadist terrorists, the administration’s argument went, would be drawn to Iraq like moths to a flame, and would perish there rather than wreak havoc elsewhere in the world. The president’s argument conveyed two important assumptions: first, that the threat of jihadist terrorism to U.S. interests would have been greater without the war in Iraq, and second, that the war is reducing the overall global pool of terrorists. However, the White House has never cited any evidence for either of these assumptions, and none appears to be publicly available. The administration’s own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated within the government in April 2006 and partially declassified in October, states that "the Iraq War has become the ‘cause celebre’ for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17137.htm

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Wed 02/27/08 08:05 AM
madman....even the dimmest of bulbs at this point think that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists and in fact the actions in Iraq have decreased the likelyhood of more terrorism attacks in the US "If we were not fighting and destroying this enemy in Iraq, they would not be idle. They would be plotting and killing Americans across the world and within our own borders. By fighting these terrorists in Iraq, Americans in uniform are defeating a direct threat to the American people." So said President Bush on November 30, 2005, refining his earlier call to "bring them on." Jihadist terrorists, the administration’s argument went, would be drawn to Iraq like moths to a flame, and would perish there rather than wreak havoc elsewhere in the world. The president’s argument conveyed two important assumptions: first, that the threat of jihadist terrorism to U.S. interests would have been greater without the war in Iraq, and second, that the war is reducing the overall global pool of terrorists. However, the White House has never cited any evidence for either of these assumptions, and none appears to be publicly available. The administration’s own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated within the government in April 2006 and partially declassified in October, states that "the Iraq War has become the ‘cause celebre’ for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17137.htm again nothing in your own words....

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 08:09 AM Edited by madisonman on Wed 02/27/08 08:12 AM
madman....even the dimmest of bulbs at this point think that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists and in fact the actions in Iraq have decreased the likelyhood of more terrorism attacks in the US "If we were not fighting and destroying this enemy in Iraq, they would not be idle. They would be plotting and killing Americans across the world and within our own borders. By fighting these terrorists in Iraq, Americans in uniform are defeating a direct threat to the American people." So said President Bush on November 30, 2005, refining his earlier call to "bring them on." Jihadist terrorists, the administration’s argument went, would be drawn to Iraq like moths to a flame, and would perish there rather than wreak havoc elsewhere in the world. The president’s argument conveyed two important assumptions: first, that the threat of jihadist terrorism to U.S. interests would have been greater without the war in Iraq, and second, that the war is reducing the overall global pool of terrorists. However, the White House has never cited any evidence for either of these assumptions, and none appears to be publicly available. The administration’s own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated within the government in April 2006 and partially declassified in October, states that "the Iraq War has become the ‘cause celebre’ for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17137.htm again nothing in your own words.... No but from mouth of our government on there opinion that the war in Iraq increases the likelyhood of terrorism, totaly slamming your opinion that it decreases terrorism. And you complain about me pasting a fact.......Its not gona work pal. again you have no facts to back up your thinking. realality becons and we welcome you here

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Wed 02/27/08 08:18 AM
Thank you for making such a thorough mess of your presidency that the citizens of this country want a change so vast, so enormous that we are willing to elect either a black man or a woman to the White House. Wow thats very prejudice. Am I to assume that since you post this you are backing this persons writing? If people want to vote democrat because of Bush thats fine, but the candidate's race/gender shouldn't matter.(i know it does to some people, but that statement makes it sound like some horrible atrocity.)

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Wed 02/27/08 08:21 AM
hahahahahahahahahaha silly rabbit, trix are for pro's.... mama said madmen are like outhouses. hey buddy, have another shot of whatever your on and send me some too.... you know if its so bad i hear that they are accepting applications for the job,,,, you could do better? or are you a sideline quarter back who is unable to take the field? sorry your wasteing your life in Iraq bro but its not my fault.If I could send ya a shot I would Someday i hope you end up in a position where you have to face one of your enemies. You may be singing a different tune, although most likely you wouldn't be singing at all. Anyhowasn't it you that posted this heart warming thread about all these poor innocent iraqi civilians getting killed. WHAT THE EFF DO YOU THINK WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT!?! Honestly lets say we pull out now. What do you think would happen, in your ever-lasting wisdom? You think everyone would put down their guns and things would go smoothly? You think Iraq would be in peace? That's ok though, we will keep fighting. For ......people... like you. We will keep fighting and dying so you can sit there in the comfort of your living room and criticize every move we make. Continue to take your freedom for granted because it's not like we will ever stop dying for people like you. Because unlike you we know what the world is really like. madman....... Pleaseeeeeeeeee read the above and apologize to this gentleman and all the other men/women who are in Iraq fighting. there is nothing to apologise for, even the dimmest of bulbs at this point understand that Iraq had nothing to do with those who attacked Us on 911 and in fat the actions in Iraq have increased the likelyhood of more terrorism. I am sure that some of those people even know that its called "the war on terrorism" not the "war to avenge ourselves for 9/11"

shelltress Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 127	Wed 02/27/08 08:23 AM
Thank you for making such a thorough mess of your presidency that the citizens of this country want a change so vast, so enormous that we are willing to elect either a black man or a woman to the White House. Wow thats very prejudice. Am I to assume that since you post this you are backing this persons writing? If people want to vote democrat because of Bush thats fine, but the candidate's race/gender shouldn't matter.(i know it does to some people, but that statement makes it sound like some horrible atrocity.) kudoes ur quote to him was right on, Man some of the things he said were ok a bit of the truth but wow did he word it like a Fat white red neck man I wonder what he would do if this country were to ever have a Black Woman running it ? Hmm I wonder how his rant would go

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 08:24 AM
madman....even the dimmest of bulbs at this point think that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists and in fact the actions in Iraq have decreased the likelyhood of more terrorism attacks in the US "If we were not fighting and destroying this enemy in Iraq, they would not be idle. They would be plotting and killing Americans across the world and within our own borders. By fighting these terrorists in Iraq, Americans in uniform are defeating a direct threat to the American people." So said President Bush on November 30, 2005, refining his earlier call to "bring them on." Jihadist terrorists, the administration’s argument went, would be drawn to Iraq like moths to a flame, and would perish there rather than wreak havoc elsewhere in the world. The president’s argument conveyed two important assumptions: first, that the threat of jihadist terrorism to U.S. interests would have been greater without the war in Iraq, and second, that the war is reducing the overall global pool of terrorists. However, the White House has never cited any evidence for either of these assumptions, and none appears to be publicly available. The administration’s own National Intelligence Estimate on "Trends in Global Terrorism: implications for the United States," circulated within the government in April 2006 and partially declassified in October, states that "the Iraq War has become the ‘cause celebre’ for jihadists...and is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17137.htm again nothing in your own words.... No but from mouth of our government on there opinion that the war in Iraq increases the likelyhood of terrorism, totaly slamming your opinion that it decreases terrorism. And you complain about me pasting a fact.......Its not gona work pal. again you have no facts to back up your thinking. realality becons and we welcome you here

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Wed 02/27/08 08:43 AM
Okay I guess I have to say this over and over for the hard heads out there. If this was a war on terror as you have been brainwashed to believe then we would have to fight it world wide as terrorism is not just arabic in nature it is a world wide problem. You have been lead to believe that Iraq is the stronghold for terrorists, it is not. You have been led to believe that Saddam was just as good as bin laden for 9/11, not true. You have been led to believe that Iraq will change the world for terrorists, not true. After all of this time, if you are still believing the brain wash then I have some prime property to sell you, known as Iraq. Lots of Americans are already there. You should just love it. I will give it to you for cheap....lol

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 10:06 AM
Okay I guess I have to say this over and over for the hard heads out there. If this was a war on terror as you have been brainwashed to believe then we would have to fight it world wide as terrorism is not just arabic in nature it is a world wide problem. You have been lead to believe that Iraq is the stronghold for terrorists, it is not. You have been led to believe that Saddam was just as good as bin laden for 9/11, not true. You have been led to believe that Iraq will change the world for terrorists, not true. After all of this time, if you are still believing the brain wash then I have some prime property to sell you, known as Iraq. Lots of Americans are already there. You should just love it. I will give it to you for cheap....lol

northrn_yanke Joined Sun 01/13/08 Posts: 851	Wed 02/27/08 10:10 AM
If this was a war on terror as you have been brainwashed to believe then we would have to fight it world wide as terrorism is not just arabic in nature it is a world wide problem. You have been lead to believe that Iraq is the stronghold for terrorists, it is not. You have been led to believe that Saddam was just as good as bin laden for 9/11, not true. You have been led to believe that Iraq will change the world for terrorists, not true. I can see that your an expert on brainwashing...hopefully you'll find a cure for yourself someday...

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 02/27/08 10:11 AM
guys....you are hopeless...i give up trying to convince people of the real truth. Just pray that we dont do what you want us to. I pray every day for that. If we do, not that you care, millions more will die, organizations that we may have pi$$ed off will end up taking over and becoming buddies with Iran/Syria. I hope that some day you see that our troops aren't wasting your precious time. But i realize that you want to hate what we are doing so bad you try to find any way you can to attack it. That is fine. I pray to go we will finish this thing as quickly as possible. I pray to god we will not make another mistake, like vietnam. The real guys, the ones that dont look at statistics gathered by organizations that never experience it. As Doc said ealier, until you fire a weapon with intent to kill this enemy... or, until you hold a dead child in your arms (one that was killed by a suicide bomber aimed at theircivilian populace), you can preach all you want and pretend to know what you are talking about. But "no good decision was ever made in a swival chair" - General George Patton. Whether or not you guys see it that is where you are sitting. God bless the men and women doing what they can to make the best of a bad situation. May god watch over the troops so they can be brought safetly home with the satisfaction that their friends didn't die in vain.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 10:15 AM Edited by madisonman on Wed 02/27/08 10:20 AM
I tend to agee with our government on this topic believe it or not and they say the war in iraq has inceased the threat of terrorism and created a good breeding ground for terrorists. So the core of your argument that we are fighting them over there so we dont have to fight them over here is totaly BS

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 02/27/08 10:19 AM
no, we don't kill very many civilians, as you may think. We make an effort not to, even if it endangers us. But you wouldn't understand that. See there you go getting all heartfelt over casualties we produce when you preach about wanting to just tuck tail and run which would kill many, many more in one year than we ever would in 10. Unlike us the insurgents actually target civilians. So bite me.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 10:24 AM
no, we don't kill very many civilians, as you may think. We make an effort not to, even if it endangers us. But you wouldn't understand that. See there you go getting all heartfelt over casualties we produce when you preach about wanting to just tuck tail and run which would kill many, many more in one year than we ever would in 10. Unlike us the insurgents actually target civilians. So bite me. drivenemnuts the entire mess in Iraq is due to our invaion, there was no bloody secretarien violence untill we invaded. the root cause of it all was our invasion. I wonder if many Iraqis would say it was worth it to be rid of Saddam?

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Wed 02/27/08 10:50 AM Edited by Dragoness on Wed 02/27/08 10:52 AM
Saddam was a tyrant dictator granted but we can now see the iron hold he had to have in order to prevent the civil war from happening. Now we have loosed the factions that were held in bay by his tyranny. Maybe they are better than he or maybe not but regardless unless we plan on continuing his work like we are currently doing with all the killing and military control, we are going to have to let the peices fall now or later.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 02/27/08 10:52 AM
so we give up? cut our losses and not try to at least get something out of this? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with why we invaded. I know the only people that really know why we did it are thoe that made the decision. You and i don't actually know why even though we can come up with some guesses. No major military action should ever be made without it being thought through first. Once again i dont know if this nation's daddies thought it through. But right now i, and lots of other guys that have been on the ground, are thinking it through now. How do we do the least amount of damage? We are trying to help the people get back on their feet. Keep casualties down. We are succeeding. Slowly but surely. I agree i would like to see them come up with a more concrete plan. Something tangible. But just because we need a new plan of attack doesnt mean we need to run like cowards. We started something and now we need to finish it. Unfortunately we have a really bad track-record of not. Pulling out now would make this whole situation pointless. All the blood sweat and taers would be shed in vain. Staying, coming up with a tangible plan, and completing it would actually create some for of benefit from this for both us, and the iraqi people. And for your information they aren't all as ungreatfull as thoe "polls" would have you agree. A very large number of them are hopeful for the future. And yes, many of them believe it was worth getting rid of saddam. The people that disagree are the ones that benefited from his tyranny. People aren't starving to death because of us, nor are they not getting proper medical treatments because of us. All i am trying to do here is convince people to think things through before we make another move. The situation is complicated and very discouraging. If there were an easy answer then it would be over right now. The mentallity that we are "wasing our time" is inhumane and just plain wrong.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 02/27/08 10:54 AM
Saddam was a tyrant dictator granted but we can now see the iron hold he had to have in order to prevent the civil war from happening. Now we have loosed the factions that were held in bay by his tyranny. Maybe they are better than he or maybe not but regardless unless we plan on continuing his work like we are currently doing with all the killing and military control, we are going to have to let the peices fall now or later. i agree, we need a plan. One that involves the least amount of destruction.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 02/27/08 11:00 AM
I agree with alot of what your saying but you allready know what parts I disagree about,but I cant help but think that the Iraqis who want us there are those who are also benefiting from our government, take that Chalibi guy who is the current Minister of Oil, he was one ofthe prime culprits for feeding false inteligence to our government on WMDS they tried to make him the next dictator but the Iraqis would have no part of him so he was apointed to be in charge of the oil. you are so right there are no easy answers on this.....But my feeling is some type of war crimes trial would go far in reestablishing some type of legitimacy to our occupation, we need to recognize we erred on a massive scale and either exonorate our government for simply being wrong or find out if we were purposly misled wich seems to be the indication.....Yes Bush and Cheneye have enough evidence against them to be at the verry least in front of a war crimes tribunal......let the chips fal were they may