This is not true, us being in Iraq is not "eliminating the world of terrorists" You have been fooled by the illustrious shrub. The terrorist who struck us on our home soil were not from Iraq, they were not headed by Saddam, they don't care about Iraq, only the shrub cared about Iraq, why, his personal agenda, that is why, shrub could care less about you.

Where is the perpetrator of 9/11????? This is the question of the century for us Americans who have suffered due to bin laden. Where is he, why have we not been vindicated for 9/11!!!????

My question is this: If our goal is stability in Iraq (to prevent the formation of terrorist cells again)...when/if we achieve that in Iraq, don't we necessarily need to go after Iran, since their stated goal is to destroy western controlled stability in the middle east? It seems like we'd have to if we stick to our logic.

You are out of your mind. Please take a deep breath, sleep on it, and print this thread out. Give it to 5 random people on the street and ask them if it was you or I who was out of line. Then duck quickly, because they may be swinging at you.

eventually...i'm kinda hoping that having Iraq as an ally (which means we will probably have bases there) will help keep Iran and Syria at bay for a while. It should at least get them to think about what they do/say before they do it.

Unfortunately, they do think before everything they do...except in the Western world we assume that if they think about it, they would decide not to mess with things. Their mindset, however, is to mess with things as much as they possibly can...so the more they have time to think, the more restless they're going to get and eventually they'll be way too enticed by the thought of fighting the US on a battleground in their backyard...IMO

That is why Iraq has to be successful. I don't think the people in Iran would want to take a chance having the US invade them and their illustrious leader would have a hard time convincing them after the US is successful in Iraq. Plus the European countries are against Iran as well.

China likes Iran...

Well we can only hope that China winds up tussling with Russia before long...to cut them both down to size a bit and to distract them from any interaction we have with Iran, since they both love Iran.

Nrthrn - Do you happen to know how the people of Iran currently feel about their gov't? (Without knowing if Iraq will be stable or not). I don't particularly know one way or the other.

Here's to you guys. My everlasting respect and thanks!

Lindyy says:

Oh, my goodness, this is getting bad.

Ms. Aspiring actress:

I am MORE than old enough to be your mother, so I am offering some motherly advice.

You are young, and unlike someone of my 59 years of life, have not really experienced too much so early in life.

Please, take a deep breath, calm down, and "Stand in the Gap, watch, listen and learn all you can."

I understand your wanting to voice your opinion, but you are stacked up against a group of men who have 'been there, done that' and have a ton of experience and education under their belt. WHEW!

My own opinions have changed so much over the years since I was your age, believe me you may look back on this and laugh at yourself (which is a good thing) or feel like pulling your hair out for not refraining and simply observing for a while.

Just some motherly advice.

Lindyy

There has been a few articles on it....here's an example..


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/11/asia/iran.php

Yeah that or she got deleted for her mindless hatred which she was spewing all over the place...can't say I'm sorry to see her go after those needless and baseless personal attacks.

once again i must say i agree with you. In all fairness it is hard not to get worked up over this stuff sometimes. But we all gotta keep our emotions under control.

From the article, speaking of Iranians:

"They do not necessarily see themselves as having any connection to the extreme radical ideas of their leaders, whether in religious or geopolitical terms, and calculate that Americans are equally disconnected from their leaders' decisions, political and social analysts said."

Very interesting.

With the lack of their knowledge of the outside world through the media I wonder where they get their misconstrued opinions of the US..

Geez, she didn't even read my 'motherly advice.'

Oh, well.

Lindyy

Well, that's only partially misconstrued, depending on how you look at it.

If you're talking about a government not pleasing its people, then America fits the bill with our woeful satisfaction rating of both Bush and the Congress.

But if you're talking about a country that thinks its leaders are crazy radicals, then only a small segment of the US thinks that. Been growing lately, but that's besides the point.

It's typical that you hear what people are gripping about louder that what they are pleased with so I would suspect if asked what the people were pleased with you'd find they were more pleased than disappointed.

As for the people who think the leaders are crazy radicals if that were true the Congress controlled by the Democrats could and would have done something to stop Bush..those who claim that Bush is crazy are looking at from their point of view...and who knows if they took their meds that day...

It's interesting though that out of the whole article you chose a paragraph that claims the oppressed people in Iran have the same issue with their goverment as the Americans have with theirs. Do you really feel an affiliation with an oppressed society?