Apparently you have absolutely no ability for abstract thought whatsoever. I was humoring you.

This may come as quite the shock to you Mr. Spider, but I seriously couldn’t care less about your personal views on Christianity. Despite the delusions you have, all of your views are nothing more than your own personal opinions. There is nothing absolute about anything you say.

I would seriously never accept, or reject, any religion based on your personal delusions of it. I certainly wouldn’t accept your interpretations of anything that Jesus might have said. I would trust my own interpretations of his words, thank you.

I was actually having a discussion with PreciousLife in the other thread when you decided to barge in and challenge my notion of ‘love’ claiming that I was being unrealistic and ‘farfetched’.

Why you think it is ‘farfetched’ to believe that anyone can actually be pure of heart is beyond me.

I’m still at a loss as to why you feel that’s such a ‘farfetched’ concept?

I have no problem at all believing that a lot of people are pure of heart. I think your obsession with making sure that everyone is a sinner has distorted your view of the potential of the human spirit.

And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. -- Genesis 22:10

Absolutely!

Sin can only be a sin because it was decided by God to be a sin. Otherwise it wouldn’t’ the a sin

That’s precisely how religion works. There can be no such thing as ‘absolute’ sin.

It necessarily must be relative to someone’s judgment, even if that someone is God.

The only reason that fornication is a sin is because God decided to make it filthy.

Not because it was inherently filthy prior to that.

God makes things filthy by judgment.

The very same act when done within a marriage, is not a sin.

People say that God can’t look upon sin. So God can’t watch single people making love.

But he can watch married people making love.

So if you don’t want God watching you in the bedroom, don’t get married!

Got can’t look upon sin!

It’s forbidden by the laws of physics for Gods.

Exodus 9


9:11 And the magicians could not stand before Moses because of the boils; for the boil was upon the magicians, and upon all the Egyptians.
9:12 And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh,

That's completely false. Opinions can be wrong and often are. There is an absolute truth to the matter, which is that you are wrong. I do embrace the plurality of ideas. I think that you don't understand the concept of "plurality of ideas", so that is why you believe that I don't believe in it.



At least you are honest about being closed minded. I can respect, if not appreciate that.



Yes, I would like everyone to be a Christian. Plurality of ideas is the belief that everyone can choose their own peaceful beliefs. Although I want everyone to be a Christian, I respect their right to their beliefs and I treat their beliefs respectfully. I don't mock Abra for being a pantheist. His beliefs are of no concern to me. I will defend Christianity when it is mocked or derided, but that's a completely different subject.



I don't care if you reject Christian theology, what I care about is that the truth of what Christians believe is told. When someone mischaracterizes the Bible or Christian doctrine, I won't stop correcting them until they STOP mischaracterizing the Bible. I take Christianity seriously, so I won't let someone insult the religion I love. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I know that I cannot. I just want every to know what it is they are rejecting when they reject Christianity. Like when I was pointing out that a PGR of around 5% would have been required for the Bible's story about the Exodus to be true. I don't care if anyone believes or not, but I want everyone to know that it is possible. Unlikely, but within the realm of possiblity.

I think that before someone rejects Christianity, they really should know what Christian doctrine is. And since this is a forum and everyone is free to read or ignore posts as they will, I don't have any problem posting my beliefs here. Don't like what I have to say? Skip every post with "SpiderCMB" and a picture of Cthulhu next to it.

Exodus 11


11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.
11:6 And there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt,

Actually, "gennie1954" made a statement and you asked her "Where do you draw the line". I answered you and told you that Jesus drew the line at lust. You then twisted what Jesus taught and claimed that anyone can have sex, as long as they love one another. I then corrected you on your mischaracterization of what Jesus taught. You went ape sh*t and called me a pervert. The rest is history.

Exodus 15


15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

Judgement words......you are wrong, that is wrong, this is wrong
Non judgement words.....that is wrong for me, that is wrong in my life, that will not apply for me because I feel.....I believe.....etc.....

We are all right for ourselves and cannot judge another for his/her beliefs. We should not tell others they are wrong. It may be wrong for us but there is not a universal wrong when it comes to spirituality or religion. Just beliefs, which are just that beliefs, they are not fact and cannot be applied universally to everyone. Personal beliefs are just that personal beliefs.

There’s your unbearable arrogance shining through right there Spider!

You ‘corrected’ me????

How many times do people have to tell you that everyone has their own personal interpretations on things and your interpretations are no more valid than anyone else’s?

I’ beg your arrogant pardon Sir! But I like my interpretations of what Jesus had to say just fine, thank you!

It is precisely this kind of condescending arrogance that you constantly exhibit that makes you impossible to converse with. You look down your nose at everyone else and proclaim, ”Only I can speak for Jesus! Everyone else is clearly wrong!”.

Get life already!

Seriously, Spider, your extreme and unwarranted condescending arrogance is truly over-bearing and genuinely disgusting.

You remind me of the punitive, angry god of the bible. I just cannot relate to him at all. I am not sure if that is what you were posting for but wow, it has been a while since I read the bible and I forget sometimes how very angry and vengeful he was written to be.

Abra

Seriously, I'm going to start calling this guy, "Mr. Jesus".

This is truly disgusting. I've never seen anyone quite this obnoxious in a long while.

22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Take a breath and let it out slowly

Hence your decision to become a missionary on a dating site?

Regarding the idea of "REJECTING" Christianity:

One cannot "reject" something unless it is perceived by them that it is being "thrust" upon them.

//Example://
A man forces himself upon me. I reject his advances by perhaps... saying no, or bending his fingers backward until he screams in pain. I would call that "rejection."

BUT

If the guy was just looking at me, or minding his own business with no intention of making pass at me, I could not experience the pleasure of rejecting him. (I'm being evil here.)
*// end of example//


So, from my perspective, by not accepting the Biblical myth (my opinion) as fact, that does not constitute a rejection of Christianity unless it was perceived as being forced upon me.

Are Christians still in the habit of forcing their religion on people? They will tell you NO NO NO , they are not.

Therefore, if this is true, you cannot ever claim that anyone is REJECTING Christianity.

Jeannie

I've actually met some pretty nice witches on here. I didn't realize there were so many witches around. There are actually quite a few witches on JSH. I was surprised. And they are all quite pleasant and very meek.

They have a very strong code of ethics to not harm others, and they have really cool recipes for curing things that actually WORK! I'm not sure if there's magick in those recipes or if they just know their herbs well.

Blessed Be the Witches!

Is that a hint????? I am out of here>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>J/K

I just had an image of a burning mob coming to get me to put me on the stake and burn me for my denouniation of the bible and christianity. In another age that would have likely happened

I'm not emotional. I just stated the facts my dear.

I'm actually recording a song here, and clicking back and forth to the forums between breaks.

That is old testament stuff. I'm glad Christians gave that stuff up or someone made a law against that. I would have been burnt at the stake long ago for reading Tarot cards in my little Bible belt town.