Topic: The Rapture Can't Happen Soon Enough To Suit Me
aLittleBird's photo
Sun 01/20/08 06:34 PM
and...are you a good lord or an evil lord??

madisonman's photo
Sun 01/20/08 06:36 PM
I celibrate the winter solstice myself and I even get paid for it...just like I will get tomorrow off with pay even though I am a caucasion. And let us pause to remember how MLK did in fact improve the lives of many

aLittleBird's photo
Sun 01/20/08 06:38 PM
how can you call yourself an atheist AND celebrate winter solstice?? That is a pagan holiday those people believe in goddess and gods.

madisonman's photo
Sun 01/20/08 06:51 PM

how can you call yourself an atheist AND celebrate winter solstice?? That is a pagan holiday those people believe in goddess and gods.
I am just happy to see the winter nights get shorter Hurray! flowerforyou

Lordling's photo
Sun 01/20/08 07:00 PM

and...are you a good lord or an evil lord??


:wink:
I'm not a Lord yet...I'm just a Lordling. In training, as one might say.

I don't know about good or evil, but I am, in sooth, a just, vengeful (and sometimes merciful) Lordling.
laugh

madisonman's photo
Sun 01/20/08 08:10 PM


and...are you a good lord or an evil lord??


:wink:
I'm not a Lord yet...I'm just a Lordling. In training, as one might say.

I don't know about good or evil, but I am, in sooth, a just, vengeful (and sometimes merciful) Lordling.
laugh

you do some great postingdrinker

cosmoisin's photo
Mon 01/21/08 02:25 AM
Edited by cosmoisin on Mon 01/21/08 02:29 AM

As an atheist and a skeptic, I try to limit my magical thinking to occasional moments of vanity and revenge. But lately I’ve found myself wishing that if the Rapture is on the level, it would happen soon . . . I mean real soon.

The Rapture is the name given to a future event in which Jesus descends from heaven and gathers up all Christian fundamentalists [a.k.a. Christian Right] and swooshes them up bodily to heaven, but not before they’ve jettisoned their clothes and jewelry and all forms of prostheses, including pompadour hairpieces and inflatable bouffant support bladders.

Before I get too far into this, I want it understood that I’m not wishing these folks ill. On the contrary, I’m wishing them what they’ve always wanted—an eternity of enjoying the unchallenged moral certitude they were never quite able to fully enjoy here on Earth, but which nonetheless caused the rest of us no end of misery.

The signs for finally seeing the backside of the Christian Right are encouraging. According to raptureready.com, the Rapture Index (omens portending the Rapture) stands at 163, the highest it’s been since September 11, 2001 when it peaked at its all-time high of 182. I don’t know what the numbers mean either. But I’m not making this up.

It appears Jesus is getting his transition team in place, what with the recent raptures—albeit by conventional means—of the Rev. D. James Kennedy, godfather of the American Dominionist [a.k.a. theofascist] movement and hater of our secular constitution, and the Rev. Jerry Falwell, founder of the Moral Majority and hater of all people he could think of to hate.

I do wish the Lord would get his jesters assembled and move on this. Think what the Rapture will mean to those of us left behind.

Twenty-three percent of the 208 million adults in America identify themselves as either Pentecostal or Charismatic Christians [a.k.a. Rapture-ready]. In the event of the Rapture up to 50 million workers will be leaving their jobs without clocking out. The number of positions vacated will be five times as many needed to wipe out the country’s unemployment, leaving the rest of us in a workers’ paradise. Affirmative action be damned! It’s “trickle up” economics at work here.

Not only will our career paths be enhanced, but we’ll have a chance at longer, healthier lives by taking the untold billons of dollars President Bush is currently funneling into the Christian Right’s faith-based coffers to save “Americans one soul at a time" and reallocating them to stem cell research and universal health care, which will save considerably more of an American than just his or her ethereal soul.

Along with vocational upgrades and improved health, we’ll no longer have to wonder, “is our kids learning?” High school grads having trouble gaining admission to one of our over-crowded universities will have immediate access to the vacant desks—and possibly iPods—left by the tens of thousands of Rapture-ready students attending America’s 102 “Christ-centered” colleges, which will be under new management and begging for warm bodies.

And guys, speaking of warm bodies, the universities will be flush with coeds since far fewer teenage girls will be home taking care of their babies—there were 435,000 teen mothers last year. The hundreds of millions of federal dollars spent annually on abstinence-only sex education [a.k.a. religious dogma] in our public high schools will now fund comprehensive sex education programs that promote safe and effective birth control methods. Let’s face it. It was only the Christian Right who thought hormone-pumped primates would ever stop “doing it.”

By the way, do I even need to mention that with the Rapture-ready blissfully ensconced behind the pearly gates the rest of us will be left in peace to enjoy our bedrooms and our most personal intimate relationships on our own terms?

Unarguably though, the highlight of the Rapture will be finding out which of the “born-again” politicians are left on the ground. Unless someone has been lying to the American people—perish the thought—we stand to lose 48 Senators, 186 Representatives, four Supreme Court justices, seven presidential hopefuls, and one hopeless president.

If it turns out—highly unlikely though it is— that the 2008 presidential frontrunners of both parties are missing on Rapture-plus-one, we’ll enjoy the remaining election season with candidates who’ve always been willing to talk about more substantive issues than their most recent meet and greet with the Lord. The God-talk will be in heaven where it belongs.

Consider this . . . with a smile. If the Democrats with Dennis Kucinich and Al Gore—we can talk him into it—or the Greens with Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader can’t defeat the unraptured and unrepentant Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani on their own merits, we’ll now own the Supreme Court.

There is a downside. We know damn-good-and-well who’ll be sitting at his Oval Office desk with a “fooled you again” smirk on his mug on Rapture-plus-one. But keep in mind, we’ll still have Section 4 of Article II of the Constitution and we’ll have the votes and we’ll have the prison. Keep in mind also, gods mostly help those who help themselves.

Having imagined all the above, my thinking is not so magical as to believe there won’t be a few post-Rapture problems. After all, according to Revelations this will be the time of the Great Tribulation and we’ll still have Satan [a.k.a. your choice] to wrestle with. But with the Christian Right enjoying eternity . . . well . . . who cares where, we’ll have only one Devil in the ring at a time. And he’ll be the one carrying a pitchfork not a Bible.

Author’s note: Hopefully Jesus is a not a strict sectarian and swooshes up Jewish and Muslim fundamentalists as well. WHAT? I have the right to hope.

_______



About author
Robert Weitzel lives in Middleton, WI. His essays regularly appear in The Capital Times in Madison, WI. He has also been published in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Skeptic Magazine, Freethought Today and on the web sites, smirkingchimp.com and commondreams.org. He can be contacted at: rweitz@tds.net.







laugh As an Athiest, You must believe in something,If there is no GOD then you are thinking there is NO DEVIL...


Unfortunatly for you, there is error in your thinking...


People are being Raptured even now, But first will come 6 Anti Christ's, one is here now...


You know him as George W Bushco, if you knew anything about Scull&Bones , than you would know that they worship The Devil...


Had you been reding The News/Spews, you would know that GWB is a Tallmud toting Hebron & Lucifarian by Faith...


So just reverse you thinking and know that Wrong is Right and Their Truth is 100% Diception...


First HELL ON EARTH WILL COME, Then JESUS Will come and destroy Satan and his Legions and who ever has survived all of that and is faithful unto The Lord,will be welcomed into Heaven to rule and rein with Jesus for 1000 years...


But Sir, You say there is NO GOD...


If you are not with The Lord, then you stand against Him...


So your future is in The Pit, with Satan and I'm afraid that even your Hard Hat may melt down there... noway


GOOD LUCK!!! happy

madisonman's photo
Mon 01/21/08 05:38 AM
No God worthy of the title would torture anyone for all eternity for disbelief. but hey whatever floats yer boat

cosmoisin's photo
Mon 01/21/08 09:16 AM


As an atheist and a skeptic, I try to limit my magical thinking to occasional moments of vanity and revenge. But lately I’ve found myself wishing that if the Rapture is on the level, it would happen soon . . . I mean real soon.

The Rapture is the name given to a future event in which Jesus descends from heaven and gathers up all Christian fundamentalists [a.k.a. Christian Right] and swooshes them up bodily to heaven, but not before they’ve jettisoned their clothes and jewelry and all forms of prostheses, including pompadour hairpieces and inflatable bouffant support bladders.

Before I get too far into this, I want it understood that I’m not wishing these folks ill. On the contrary, I’m wishing them what they’ve always wanted—an eternity of enjoying the unchallenged moral certitude they were never quite able to fully enjoy here on Earth, but which nonetheless caused the rest of us no end of misery.

The signs for finally seeing the backside of the Christian Right are encouraging. According to raptureready.com, the Rapture Index (omens portending the Rapture) stands at 163, the highest it’s been since September 11, 2001 when it peaked at its all-time high of 182. I don’t know what the numbers mean either. But I’m not making this up.

It appears Jesus is getting his transition team in place, what with the recent raptures—albeit by conventional means—of the Rev. D. James Kennedy, godfather of the American Dominionist [a.k.a. theofascist] movement and hater of our secular constitution, and the Rev. Jerry Falwell, founder of the Moral Majority and hater of all people he could think of to hate.

I do wish the Lord would get his jesters assembled and move on this. Think what the Rapture will mean to those of us left behind.

Twenty-three percent of the 208 million adults in America identify themselves as either Pentecostal or Charismatic Christians [a.k.a. Rapture-ready]. In the event of the Rapture up to 50 million workers will be leaving their jobs without clocking out. The number of positions vacated will be five times as many needed to wipe out the country’s unemployment, leaving the rest of us in a workers’ paradise. Affirmative action be damned! It’s “trickle up” economics at work here.

Not only will our career paths be enhanced, but we’ll have a chance at longer, healthier lives by taking the untold billons of dollars President Bush is currently funneling into the Christian Right’s faith-based coffers to save “Americans one soul at a time" and reallocating them to stem cell research and universal health care, which will save considerably more of an American than just his or her ethereal soul.

Along with vocational upgrades and improved health, we’ll no longer have to wonder, “is our kids learning?” High school grads having trouble gaining admission to one of our over-crowded universities will have immediate access to the vacant desks—and possibly iPods—left by the tens of thousands of Rapture-ready students attending America’s 102 “Christ-centered” colleges, which will be under new management and begging for warm bodies.

And guys, speaking of warm bodies, the universities will be flush with coeds since far fewer teenage girls will be home taking care of their babies—there were 435,000 teen mothers last year. The hundreds of millions of federal dollars spent annually on abstinence-only sex education [a.k.a. religious dogma] in our public high schools will now fund comprehensive sex education programs that promote safe and effective birth control methods. Let’s face it. It was only the Christian Right who thought hormone-pumped primates would ever stop “doing it.”

By the way, do I even need to mention that with the Rapture-ready blissfully ensconced behind the pearly gates the rest of us will be left in peace to enjoy our bedrooms and our most personal intimate relationships on our own terms?

Unarguably though, the highlight of the Rapture will be finding out which of the “born-again” politicians are left on the ground. Unless someone has been lying to the American people—perish the thought—we stand to lose 48 Senators, 186 Representatives, four Supreme Court justices, seven presidential hopefuls, and one hopeless president.

If it turns out—highly unlikely though it is— that the 2008 presidential frontrunners of both parties are missing on Rapture-plus-one, we’ll enjoy the remaining election season with candidates who’ve always been willing to talk about more substantive issues than their most recent meet and greet with the Lord. The God-talk will be in heaven where it belongs.

Consider this . . . with a smile. If the Democrats with Dennis Kucinich and Al Gore—we can talk him into it—or the Greens with Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader can’t defeat the unraptured and unrepentant Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani on their own merits, we’ll now own the Supreme Court.

There is a downside. We know damn-good-and-well who’ll be sitting at his Oval Office desk with a “fooled you again” smirk on his mug on Rapture-plus-one. But keep in mind, we’ll still have Section 4 of Article II of the Constitution and we’ll have the votes and we’ll have the prison. Keep in mind also, gods mostly help those who help themselves.

Having imagined all the above, my thinking is not so magical as to believe there won’t be a few post-Rapture problems. After all, according to Revelations this will be the time of the Great Tribulation and we’ll still have Satan [a.k.a. your choice] to wrestle with. But with the Christian Right enjoying eternity . . . well . . . who cares where, we’ll have only one Devil in the ring at a time. And he’ll be the one carrying a pitchfork not a Bible.

Author’s note: Hopefully Jesus is a not a strict sectarian and swooshes up Jewish and Muslim fundamentalists as well. WHAT? I have the right to hope.

_______



About author
Robert Weitzel lives in Middleton, WI. His essays regularly appear in The Capital Times in Madison, WI. He has also been published in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Skeptic Magazine, Freethought Today and on the web sites, smirkingchimp.com and commondreams.org. He can be contacted at: rweitz@tds.net.







laugh As an Athiest, You must believe in something,If there is no GOD then you are thinking there is NO DEVIL...


Unfortunatly for you, there is error in your thinking...


People are being Raptured even now, But first will come 6 Anti Christ's, one is here now...


You know him as George W Bushco, if you knew anything about Scull&Bones , than you would know that they worship The Devil...


Had you been reding The News/Spews, you would know that GWB is a Tallmud toting Hebron & Lucifarian by Faith...


So just reverse you thinking and know that Wrong is Right and Their Truth is 100% Diception...


First HELL ON EARTH WILL COME, Then JESUS Will come and destroy Satan and his Legions and who ever has survived all of that and is faithful unto The Lord,will be welcomed into Heaven to rule and rein with Jesus for 1000 years...


But Sir, You say there is NO GOD...


If you are not with The Lord, then you stand against Him...


So your future is in The Pit, with Satan and I'm afraid that even your Hard Hat may melt down there... noway


GOOD LUCK!!! happy







As you say, What ever floats your Boat, Bt is your boat floating, or stranded on dry land...

madisonman's photo
Mon 01/21/08 09:30 AM
Edited by madisonman on Mon 01/21/08 09:31 AM
dont doubt the sincerity of those believers and I am sorry I can be confrontational, at times i wish I could believe in a supreme being as it would make our existance so simple. I have a hard time excepting things on faith alone. You see I do believe in evelution as the fossalised evidence is all around us and you stumble accross fossiles all the time if you spend any time at all along the creeks and rivers in our area. When darwin came to the gallipigos islands he found many creatures found no were else on earth as each evolved in there unique and isolated circumstances. did god play a hand in all this? some may say yes but again the proof is in the fossils.........now did a supreme being create life the universe and everything, maybe but does he match the descriptions laid down by our varriouse religions? I find it highly doubtfull....but thats just my opinion and I do sincerly think if we all lived as JESUS preached to love thy neighbor and take care of each other the world will be a better place

cosmoisin's photo
Mon 01/21/08 06:40 PM



As an atheist and a skeptic, I try to limit my magical thinking to occasional moments of vanity and revenge. But lately I’ve found myself wishing that if the Rapture is on the level, it would happen soon . . . I mean real soon.

The Rapture is the name given to a future event in which Jesus descends from heaven and gathers up all Christian fundamentalists [a.k.a. Christian Right] and swooshes them up bodily to heaven, but not before they’ve jettisoned their clothes and jewelry and all forms of prostheses, including pompadour hairpieces and inflatable bouffant support bladders.

Before I get too far into this, I want it understood that I’m not wishing these folks ill. On the contrary, I’m wishing them what they’ve always wanted—an eternity of enjoying the unchallenged moral certitude they were never quite able to fully enjoy here on Earth, but which nonetheless caused the rest of us no end of misery.

The signs for finally seeing the backside of the Christian Right are encouraging. According to raptureready.com, the Rapture Index (omens portending the Rapture) stands at 163, the highest it’s been since September 11, 2001 when it peaked at its all-time high of 182. I don’t know what the numbers mean either. But I’m not making this up.

It appears Jesus is getting his transition team in place, what with the recent raptures—albeit by conventional means—of the Rev. D. James Kennedy, godfather of the American Dominionist [a.k.a. theofascist] movement and hater of our secular constitution, and the Rev. Jerry Falwell, founder of the Moral Majority and hater of all people he could think of to hate.

I do wish the Lord would get his jesters assembled and move on this. Think what the Rapture will mean to those of us left behind.

Twenty-three percent of the 208 million adults in America identify themselves as either Pentecostal or Charismatic Christians [a.k.a. Rapture-ready]. In the event of the Rapture up to 50 million workers will be leaving their jobs without clocking out. The number of positions vacated will be five times as many needed to wipe out the country’s unemployment, leaving the rest of us in a workers’ paradise. Affirmative action be damned! It’s “trickle up” economics at work here.

Not only will our career paths be enhanced, but we’ll have a chance at longer, healthier lives by taking the untold billons of dollars President Bush is currently funneling into the Christian Right’s faith-based coffers to save “Americans one soul at a time" and reallocating them to stem cell research and universal health care, which will save considerably more of an American than just his or her ethereal soul.

Along with vocational upgrades and improved health, we’ll no longer have to wonder, “is our kids learning?” High school grads having trouble gaining admission to one of our over-crowded universities will have immediate access to the vacant desks—and possibly iPods—left by the tens of thousands of Rapture-ready students attending America’s 102 “Christ-centered” colleges, which will be under new management and begging for warm bodies.

And guys, speaking of warm bodies, the universities will be flush with coeds since far fewer teenage girls will be home taking care of their babies—there were 435,000 teen mothers last year. The hundreds of millions of federal dollars spent annually on abstinence-only sex education [a.k.a. religious dogma] in our public high schools will now fund comprehensive sex education programs that promote safe and effective birth control methods. Let’s face it. It was only the Christian Right who thought hormone-pumped primates would ever stop “doing it.”

By the way, do I even need to mention that with the Rapture-ready blissfully ensconced behind the pearly gates the rest of us will be left in peace to enjoy our bedrooms and our most personal intimate relationships on our own terms?

Unarguably though, the highlight of the Rapture will be finding out which of the “born-again” politicians are left on the ground. Unless someone has been lying to the American people—perish the thought—we stand to lose 48 Senators, 186 Representatives, four Supreme Court justices, seven presidential hopefuls, and one hopeless president.

If it turns out—highly unlikely though it is— that the 2008 presidential frontrunners of both parties are missing on Rapture-plus-one, we’ll enjoy the remaining election season with candidates who’ve always been willing to talk about more substantive issues than their most recent meet and greet with the Lord. The God-talk will be in heaven where it belongs.

Consider this . . . with a smile. If the Democrats with Dennis Kucinich and Al Gore—we can talk him into it—or the Greens with Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader can’t defeat the unraptured and unrepentant Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani on their own merits, we’ll now own the Supreme Court.

There is a downside. We know damn-good-and-well who’ll be sitting at his Oval Office desk with a “fooled you again” smirk on his mug on Rapture-plus-one. But keep in mind, we’ll still have Section 4 of Article II of the Constitution and we’ll have the votes and we’ll have the prison. Keep in mind also, gods mostly help those who help themselves.

Having imagined all the above, my thinking is not so magical as to believe there won’t be a few post-Rapture problems. After all, according to Revelations this will be the time of the Great Tribulation and we’ll still have Satan [a.k.a. your choice] to wrestle with. But with the Christian Right enjoying eternity . . . well . . . who cares where, we’ll have only one Devil in the ring at a time. And he’ll be the one carrying a pitchfork not a Bible.

Author’s note: Hopefully Jesus is a not a strict sectarian and swooshes up Jewish and Muslim fundamentalists as well. WHAT? I have the right to hope.

_______



About author
Robert Weitzel lives in Middleton, WI. His essays regularly appear in The Capital Times in Madison, WI. He has also been published in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Skeptic Magazine, Freethought Today and on the web sites, smirkingchimp.com and commondreams.org. He can be contacted at: rweitz@tds.net.







laugh As an Athiest, You must believe in something,If there is no GOD then you are thinking there is NO DEVIL...


Unfortunatly for you, there is error in your thinking...


People are being Raptured even now, But first will come 6 Anti Christ's, one is here now...


You know him as George W Bushco, if you knew anything about Scull&Bones , than you would know that they worship The Devil...


Had you been reding The News/Spews, you would know that GWB is a Tallmud toting Hebron & Lucifarian by Faith...


So just reverse you thinking and know that Wrong is Right and Their Truth is 100% Diception...


First HELL ON EARTH WILL COME, Then JESUS Will come and destroy Satan and his Legions and who ever has survived all of that and is faithful unto The Lord,will be welcomed into Heaven to rule and rein with Jesus for 1000 years...


But Sir, You say there is NO GOD...


If you are not with The Lord, then you stand against Him...


So your future is in The Pit, with Satan and I'm afraid that even your Hard Hat may melt down there... noway


GOOD LUCK!!! happy







As you say, What ever floats your Boat, Bt is your boat floating, or stranded on dry land...



What will you do when Anti Christ comes and expects you to Bow Down unto him ???

Check out NESARA find out what your government has signed you up for, You simply going to LOVE IT!!!

You in reality have NO RIGHTS, Do you know about the 6,500 FEMA CAMPS and exactly what they will be used for ???


All Christians, Muslems ans Jews are to be Exterminated, in the exact same ways as the WW2 Consentration Camps, Just think you could become a guard and be in on all the action,but they will kill you to weather you take the MARK of not,because you are not Illuminatti...laugh

madisonman's photo
Mon 01/21/08 06:42 PM
did I fall into a time warp that leads to the dark ages?

Lordling's photo
Mon 01/21/08 07:10 PM

did I fall into a time warp that leads to the dark ages?


It's a sign of the times. You know the DNA has been atrophying for a long time, but some people have dropped a few more key sequences than have others.
:tongue:

no photo
Tue 01/22/08 01:50 PM
Hey MM - could you write these things say if you lived in Iraq and still wake up alive the next morning??? Go to Iraq, write these things about Islam and tell me how it goes........from the grave!!!

aLittleBird's photo
Tue 01/22/08 02:01 PM
"What will you do when Anti Christ comes and expects you to Bow Down unto him ???

Check out NESARA find out what your government has signed you up for, You simply going to LOVE IT!!!

You in reality have NO RIGHTS, Do you know about the 6,500 FEMA CAMPS and exactly what they will be used for ???


All Christians, Muslems ans Jews are to be Exterminated, in the exact same ways as the WW2 Consentration Camps, Just think you could become a guard and be in on all the action,but they will kill you to weather you take the MARK of not,because you are not Illuminatti...laugh""



While I don't really care what madisonman does or who he bows down to or whatever....I did google NESARA. Never heard of that one before. Quite interesting.

aLittleBird's photo
Wed 01/23/08 02:14 PM
To suppose the supposition that everything started from nothing could be something of a dilemma, except for that tiny little fact that without the all consuming conception of interpretation of the inconceivable there would actually be nothing and without any predetermined ideal that emptiness came from a universe that supplied all that there could be in fact without the nothing of the void that holds and recollects our past we have been and our future that we haven’t yet experienced.

So, if you as a person were to decide that everything you knew was on the basis that you came into the world with a greater knowledge than those who had existed on earth before you then how could you even begin to perceive the idea that you know all that there is to be learned? In fact the reckoning to know or understand, that which has not been understood before without definable language, is actually nigh on impossible.

My question is why do we reckon we can? In fact that thing that is greater than the non is definitely inconceivable. It is potentially a force that we cannot reckon with because it never existed in the first place. How could it if it hasn’t even been created yet?

I have come to the conclusion that whatever I see before me is merely an apparition in that none of it is real. What I consider to be fact lies in the undetermined potential of describing the absolute that nobody has yet perceived and I suggest is the possibility of a whole, some of what has not been described before.

That is my definition of all that is possible within a realm of the narrow-minded thinker and the bottomless pit that we are yet to discover.

That mystery which hides the infinite could be an answer to such a definition according to the Oxford English dictionary. But then again I’m good at making things up so it’s quite certain that I am on some path toward a conclusion in a realm of what is possible.

And what if in fact there is no such thing in either, there is nothing after and everything has never actually existed?

Starhawk's photo
Thu 01/24/08 05:18 AM

All I have to say is , people had really better think about what will really happen when the rapture happens , that is why we must be ready all the time and try to live Christ like as best we can , except Jesus as Lord and Saviour , he came to earth and bore our sins and diseases , he was crucified and then arose and is in heaven to return for his church someday... this is real people and who jokes of this is really in for a real awakening.. I'll pray for all the unbeleivers of Christ and pray they will realize before it is too late . God Bless and Keep You All.!!!!


Keep the Faith Brother...

LauraLynn08's photo
Thu 01/24/08 06:10 AM
All of this rapture talk makes me laugh, it sounds much like the Moon Bop cult that all wore Nike tennis shoes and had bunk beds, does anyone but me see the irony in the two? It may not be called the Moon Bop, but it was something like that.

Now on to this whole "Jesus saves" therory, I have seen first hand people who were devout saved Christians, they lived good clean lives, were "saved" and then died miserable deaths, where they died slow and painful deaths, I have been at a bed side when someone like this passed, I saw the pain in their eyes, and the wanting for it all just to be over. Is this how your god treats it's most religious people? Is this his divine plan? Well screw your god.

It is a little easier to believe that God simply manages what happens here, he does not interfear at all. He's not Santa, making a list and checking it twice, to find out who's naughty and nice. If we are truely all of God's children, then we are all of God's children.

Just like if you have children of your own, and one misbehaves, or is a constant misbehaver. You don't turn your back on them do you? You don't leave them out of your will do you?

All of you "fundy" need to take a good hard look at what you do and spew around town, would your parents ground the misbehaver or would they ground both the misbehaver and the antaginizer? My parents would have grounded us both, but then I have good parents.

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 01/24/08 09:43 AM

it seems as though you may need to do a little more homework.
if Jesus DOES come back to gather up his people, then that would mean that all along there was a God, you were wrong, and the prophecies in the Bible are indeed going to occur.
this is where you need to do a little more studying. obviously if all of the preceding events happened, then the great tribulation that was prophesied will also happen. this will leave you AND your friends that were left here with you in a whole world of complete pain and utter chaos.
think of it this way....
if you believe in God and live right...and you end up being wrong, then you have lost nothing.
if you believe there is no God and you are wrong....yea well. basically, you are screwed.


You say we lose nothing by following Christianity. I see many nuns and priest's that have given up marriage for this book. I have seen people that have tossed out there own children because they were gay. I have seen gay teens kill themselves because they cannot believe that their family or society will ever accept them. The saddest part of all of these issues is that they are all based on love. How can loving somebody be a sin? I'm afraid anyone that follows that god has a lot to lose. I think all your morality is at stake in that religion.

aLittleBird's photo
Thu 01/24/08 10:14 AM
so...who is your god?