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I appreciate your compassion for the victim. Being 'fried' once probably burned up all his nerve endings thus incapacitating him. SO reviving him would have been a cruel way to spend the rest of his life. It may sound cruel but the continuance of 'frying' him was probably more dignified than letting him live. But consider the 40 million babies aborted since Woe v. Wade was made law. These are innocent victims of mere inconvience and your tax dollars pay for the majority of them. 
It never ceases to amaze me how anti-choice people always manage to sneak into the conversation when it comes to the death penalty. Life is life, if that is what you believe then don't be a hypocrate. God made 'em all, innocent or monster they all deserve to live (according to your doctrine). |
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"Life, Liberty & The Pursuit of Happiness" are inalienable rights. The death penalty is clearly unconstitutional;^]
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22cal. bullet, much simpler & can do a complete brain kill.
Takes a certain brand, but expands so much it will never leave the skull. Just bounces around. Simple. Death penalty is the only thing criminals really fear. Prison is a training ground/school to create better criminals. My Opinion. |
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Death penalty is the only thing criminals really fear. From someone who's been there, trust me that's pretty far from the truth;^] |
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not to worry,the host of this topic is seriously keeping a beed on it..lol
seeing that i am canadian,i have no idea how the laws govern each individual state..but would double jeopardy be factor in a situation as this?..i know that it implies to the hearings,but the sentencings too?..this happened in texas.. and yes miss different,the whole idea of executions is too maintain the punishment until death is proclaimed by the medical examiner..i would think that in a situation such as these,the governor has the final say as to continue or stop the said execution..in most times i figure the governor balances out rights of the accused with justice for the victims's so a stay of execution,after the first one failed..i would think is very rare..in some states...as for what they do with whats left,if the execution is stayed after being botched..my gues is that he will stay in prison,or considering his mental state afterwards,placed in some assylum. re-programming??...only solution is a frontal lobe lobottomy..as they used to do to some inmates in the 1940's no sir,i have co compassion for the victim..unless you mean the child of course..then yes..thats why i was stunned when the words of the parents were mentioned by the nararator of the show i was watching...but if you mean the man who took her life then no..he deserved death,,,there are many different ways that a person can lose a life by the hands of another,,but this was planned ..he planned to murder this child..believe when i say that it was a terrible day in canadian history when we abolished our death pennalty.. and i dont really know if abortions would be the same sir..in some places.a fetus is not considered to be technically a human being until months after the mother is pregnant..but this being aside,abortions fall under the freedom act..is it better to leave children under the care of ruthless orphanges..or to be told that your fetus will be born with a an array of deformities,which will cause it to live a horrid existence for all of it's life?..no i am for freedom of choice..the mother had the final say,if she is willing to give such a child the care that it needs.. beheading was the only true and reliable and effective means of executions really...100% guarentee of the final intended result..god bless france..lol hello again miss symbel..lets not start with the groin beatings..lollol..i dont know if you can call him anti- social..i have always been an athiest..i question the existence of god..you are not a believer in the death penalty..or seeing as you wrote (according to your doctorine) your answer for me isnt clear..but from what i gather you are for life..of everyone..even the most evil..maybe this is the way to feel..a child is the resonsibility of every parent to make sure that they grow up to be fine contributing members of society..and in many cases behind closed doors this is not always the case..i would assume that killers..for the most part are made,resulting from a lifetime of abuse and sadistic behavior from parents..and thus perhaps deseving compassion from society..a lot of people feel this way...but i feel that when a child reaches the age of reason,that he or she knows what is good and what is evil..i would even go as far as to say that we all have the capability to do great evil to one another..but most of us surpress it... it's been a slice everyone.... thnaks for the opinions and retorts.....please though..please no groin beatings..lollollol |
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True criminals fear nothing .Laws are for honest folk,to keep them honest.I wouldn't want my kids names associated with murder,legal or not.Compassion for others is what differentiates us from the criminals and this is why the parents were sickened.
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Statistically speaking.. The death penalty is not a deterrent to capital crimes.
See this graph: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murderratesDP&NDP.jpg Then this one: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterencegap.jpg These statistics when considering the overall costs sounds pretty inefficient/ ineffective, to me. The only benefit to capital punishment seems to be the false sense of security and vengeance. I'll not even get into the dynamics of the wrongfully accused... An excerpt from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org The California Death Penalty System Costs Taxpayers More than $114 Million a Year According to state and federal records obtained by The Los Angeles Times, maintaining the California death penalty system costs taxpayers more than $114 million a year beyond the cost of simply keeping the convicts locked up for life. This figure does not count the millions more spent on court costs to prosecute capital cases. The Times concluded that Californians and federal taxpayers have paid more than a quarter of a billion dollars for each of the state's 11 executions, and that it costs $90,000 more a year to house one inmate on death row, where each person has a private cell and extra guards, than in general prison population. This additional cost per prisoner adds up to $57.5 million in annual spending. ("Death Row Often Means a Long Life," Los Angeles Times, March 6, 2005, http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/latimesarticle.pdf.) |
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You couldn't torcher him enough in my book! I can't even imagine what the 3 year old went through.....
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Statistically speaking.. The death penalty is not a deterrent to capital crimes. See this graph: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murderratesDP&NDP.jpg Then this one: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterencegap.jpg These statistics when considering the overall costs sounds pretty inefficient/ ineffective, to me. The only benefit to capital punishment seems to be the false sense of security and vengeance. I'll not even get into the dynamics of the wrongfully accused... An excerpt from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org The California Death Penalty System Costs Taxpayers More than $114 Million a Year According to state and federal records obtained by The Los Angeles Times, maintaining the California death penalty system costs taxpayers more than $114 million a year beyond the cost of simply keeping the convicts locked up for life. This figure does not count the millions more spent on court costs to prosecute capital cases. The Times concluded that Californians and federal taxpayers have paid more than a quarter of a billion dollars for each of the state's 11 executions, and that it costs $90,000 more a year to house one inmate on death row, where each person has a private cell and extra guards, than in general prison population. This additional cost per prisoner adds up to $57.5 million in annual spending. ("Death Row Often Means a Long Life," Los Angeles Times, March 6, 2005, http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/latimesarticle.pdf.) You may change your tune if it were your child. But I get your point. |
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 So he suffered...think about how his victims
suffered...A baby also....my god...I am thinking someone from above had a hand in it.
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Edited by
Jistme
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Sat 01/19/08 08:40 AM
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You may change your tune if it were your child. But I get your point. I've seen plenty of violent crime.. A few pretty up close and personal. I have lost some friends to it too. So I am not talking completely out of my @ss here. I've also had a fair share of experience working with the criminal mind, although I am far from an expert. More often then not... In cases I've known the players in. The State chooses the punishment, being fought by the victims loved ones when they choose the death penalty. |
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But consider the 40 million babies aborted since Woe v. Wade was made law. These are innocent victims of mere inconvience and your tax dollars pay for the majority of them.
I agree with this part too..
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You may change your tune if it were your child. But I get your point. I've seen plenty of violent crime.. A few pretty up close and personal. I have lost some friends to it too. So I am not talking completely out of my @ss here. I've also had a fair share of experience working with the criminal mind, although I am far from an expert. More often then not... In cases I've known the players in. The State chooses the punishment, being fought by the victims loved ones when they choose the death penalty. There are many ways to look at it I guess. |
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Tomie, I think you mean Roe vs Wade. You're right, Differentkindofwench, my bad. GOSH, I'm goofy. Maybe I should try proof reading?lol
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Tomie, I think you mean Roe vs Wade. You're right, Differentkindofwench, my bad. GOSH, I'm goofy. Maybe I should try proof reading?lol
I knew what you meant
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It never ceases to amaze me how anti-choice people always manage to sneak into the conversation when it comes to the death penalty. Life is life, if that is what you believe then don't be a hypocrate. God made 'em all, innocent or monster they all deserve to live (according to your doctrine). Excuse me? But you must discern between Adolf Hilter & Mother Theresa. This is a country of free will & of Speech, last time I checked. If you're for the killing of babies, it's your choice. If I'm for the killing of perpetrators, then it's my choice. I wasn't advocating his death in the first place nor sneaking in, Did I touch on a soft spot?
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We don't have the death penality here (Argentina). And after living in a country burdened under the domination of a military dictatorship, let me tell you, one doesn't get a good feeling about giving the government the right to kill people.
This topic, like abortion, falls under two distinct hemispheres morality vs justice. Is it ethical to allow the state to execute its citizens? How can we guarantee the right people are being punished? Look at how many death-row inmates have been pardoned because modern DNA testing has proven their innocence? Who decides who has the right to tell someone they can or can not live? Like abortion, both are a matter of personal moral beliefs. Who am I to take a life? Certainly it wont bring my loved on back and in the end does it make me any better than the murderer? What right to I have to deny another that choice though? Perhaps some grief stricken parent needs to see the monster who killed his/her child die. A woman for her own reasons can not bring a child into this world... If no one else has the right to decide for me, who am I to decide for another? Once you get the state involved, then it all goes to hell in a hand basket. I believe monsters are made, not born. |
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symbelmyne I totally agree with you on this one.
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symbelmyne I totally agree with you on this one.
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