First of all I'm not a Mod which I have explained to you more then once..

And I never said it was not enough for me to determine an opinion. Since I'm the one that posted the link. In order for others to figure out what you were even talking about.It is in the Rules that the OP should provide links (proof) of what their thread pertains too.

I said it explains why I can see there is a possibility that the couple in fact even went to her for their design cause they knew she would refuse them just so they could sue her..

And I very clearly posted that~~so not sure what your question is here!

It would be more on Religious discrimination actually all based on the Web Designers Religion.. Which in fact is an argument that the Web Designer can use. Due to the fact she even posted on her Website

""Smith highlights her faith on her website and emphasizes that she avoids communicating messages that are "inconsistent with her religious beliefs."""

Everyone has the right to their beliefs within their religion, that is guaranteed by the First Amendment.

As I said why would a gay couple go to her, knowing that within her Religion she does not acknowledge same sex marriages??

It's Religious freedom.

Same alternate idea that I was about to post. But you said it well, without fluff. Bravo!

Just a little background:

1A:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That all may be, first amendment, her stating that on her website etc. etc., but her belief isn't under threat. She can believe what she wants, doesn't mean she can reject people based on their sexual orientation. The same-sex couple is being discriminated, not her religion & beliefs.
Would be quite something is you could use your beliefs as a reason to not serve people. Again, if she gets away with this you can soon have scenarios where doctors refuse to help people because of their sexual orientation, skin colour, ethnicity etc. etc.
What if you happen to be gay/coloured/of other religion and desperately need surgery yet the doctor refuses based on those facts? Insanity!!
Or you get kicked out of the supermarket, or cannot buy a coffee at Starbucks, because you're skin isn't white and the shop assistant's beliefs entitle her/him to stick to that point?
She can practise her belief all she wants, that's not under scrutiny. But it should never be allowed to become a gauge of whom you serve and who not when it concerns sexual orientation, skin colour, (other) religion etc.
How far does she go? What if a Muslim couple wants her to make a website? Or a black couple? Or when she feels a couple shouldn't get married because they're not a good match? As that would also be an option then. It's her playing god.
Seriously crossing a line.

If this couple deliberately did this is another issue. And to be honest, not even wrong. It'd be good to have a clear court ruling for others to rely on when a similar thing happens elsewhere.

As for myself, I'd also not go to someone like that if I really wanted my wedding stuff done. But that's only because I can't be bothered with the hassle. It would P me O though as it simply is NOT right. And if it P me O enough I'd sure as heck do the same thing: sue her!
At some point someone has got to make a statement to stop religious nutters. Simply put: if such things are so problematic for her she shouldn't run a business.

why am I not surprised
religion is always there to justify discrimination

Why am I not surprised they always scream discrimination and racism to bash religion and freedom of choice. To hell with them and their woke accusation’s.

It's the misuse and manipulation of religion that's used to justify these things.
Just because you provide a service or sell an item to a person doesn't mean you endorse their lifestyle. It's not stopping you from sharing your religion it's not forcing you to accept a belief. Your simply just following laws.

take it easy god guy... Sorry to disappoint you, but hell exists only in your imagination

I wish it's true.... but
You know, you can use the same excuse to justify atrocities done by communism.. You can say that it's the misuse of communism.
Or Nazism... It's Hitler and the SS who are to blame, not Nazism.... etc

people like you don’t disappoint me anymore . I’m getting used to the increase in immorality’s becoming the norm.

it's ok MoralMan, since the number of you guys is decreasing rapidly... looking forward to seeing you displayed in museums in a couple of years

So you're a religious person, then how do you justify being this judgemental, lacking compassion and acceptance of others, and instead being full of negativity and non-stop spreading discord?
Where's your moral coding that you think it is okay to be rude and judgemental?
Where's the part that God/Source/The Divine is love? It doesn't show in your postings, ever.
My-way-or-the-highway is not what religion or love should be about.

Maybe go back to learning and discovering what it truly means to be religious, if you want to be a pure follower.
As it is you only contribute to giving it a bad name.
And while you're at it, you're insulting another/other Mingle member(s).
Is that also in the name of God?

I'm not religious, and looking at how narrow-minded many incl. you are, I'm glad for it!
It'd be something to have a good laugh about if it wasn't so sad that people actually latch on to such outdated & limiting beliefs.

I never insulted anyone . I gave an opinion that didn’t align with yours so you took offense to that. Not my problem…. Yea I am moral . I don’t want young children experimenting with gender mutilation with or with out parental consent.. I’m against having the homeless living in the streets shooting up and using the streets as a bathroom , while kids have to Wade thru that BS just to get in the school. I’m against opening the border for terrorists, drugs and millions of people to come in illegally . .. I don’t like the schools promoting drag queens day in schools or satan weekend in schools. Democrats go crazy if they don’t have a right to kill a full term baby. Who wouldn’t find all this immoral? All that crap is happening now with the support of the Democratic Party .You may want to participate in that kind of behavior, but I’m sure your in the minority with people who think like that . Say what you want about me . I am a loving Christian , certainly NOT perfect or without sin. But I’m not accepting of immoral behavior . And I’ll not change my views to appease anyone.

First Amendment.... freedom of religion is protected under the First Amendment; that being said, if they don't believe in whatever it may be, they shouldn't be forced to do it. We don't make atheists pray in school, and that's ok, that's their view. So why is it ok the other way around? I'm not a Christian like that but I believe we are not far from religious persecution if we can't stay in line with our constitution. At the end of the day, we ALL just want our freedom!

Actually, that's exactly what that means.

I mean just me saying, but if I come to you and you don't want my business say for example, just because, I'm gonna find someone else to make my cake because I don't want to give you my money.

Ever heard of Pascal's wager? Pascal was a seventeenth-century French mathematician, philosopher, physicist and theologian.
Pascal argued that a rational person should live as though God exists and should seek to believe in God. If God does not exist a nonbeliever will have only a finite loss like some pleasures, luxury, etc, But if God does exist a believer stands to receive infinite gains such as represented by eternity in Heaven and avoid infinite losses like spending eternity in Hell.

I'm not a religious person and I don't go to church, I don't believe any deity is taking attendance on Sundays, but Pascal's wager is based on a logical approach to the possibility of there being a Heaven, Hell and a God.

Agreed, I can't say at the end of the day that God does or doesn't exist. I don't debate opinions, only facts. God or no god, her opinion is protected under the First Amendment, period. Like yours, mine and everyone else's.

If I am making Jesus fish stickers I am not going to switch things over just because you want a rainbow sticker.

Being gay is a choice, same as being heterosexual is a choice. You can choose who you are with, or you can choose not to be with anybody. It is not the same as being born black, or white, or Asian. Yes you may have feelings toward one way or another, or your hormones might be out of wack, but at the end of the day you still have a choice. You have people who are born gay ( I'm sure there is a way to test for this be it thru estrogen and testosterone, or thru DNA, or a brain scan to see parts of the brain that would relate to that) You also have people who are "gay" just because they want the attention, they want to stand out in a crowd, or want to make a point. I think this whole thing has been blown up just for people seeking attention both for their religious beliefs and sexual orientation beliefs. I can sell what I want, to who I want, for however much I want. It's known as free enterprise. Maybe I have just 1 client? Then if somebody else comes along I am not REQUIRED to sell to them, I can pick and choose whomever I want for whatever reason I want.

Thank you for not letting me vent and be very ummmadiment to our values as a NATION!!!! I was almost going to be very rude to those that have not a clue to what it actually mEANS!!! It's like saying in a very small way that someone can just come into your home!!! And do as they please!!!! Much more complicated but the same point!!!! You build it and you make the rules!!! You BUILD I T!!!!!!!