Joe Biden is now purposely dividing Americans against Americans with his policies and speeches. Saying the anti Vaccine people are bad and shouldn’t be able to work to support themselves and their family is nothing less than Hitler trying to ignite people against Jews. Biden is letting thousands untested and no vaccine for thousands come in on the southern border. And yet hundreds of Americans in Afghanistan that Biden left behind. This guy is a rotting bag of oatmeal.

Don't want to get the shot? Don't get it. And help reduce the crowding in the shallow end of the gene pool.

Absofreakinglutely!

He's not called Sleepy Joe Inbed (Biden) for nothing

Better to be fully vaxxed and masked than be on a ventilator.

Look at the number of anti-vax / anti mask now wishing they had worn a mask, gotten the vaccine.

I cannot imagine the pain of losing a family member because refused a vaccine. Only this morning read about a family that lost a 4 year old daughter because they refused vaccine.

Getting the vaccine saves you and those around you.

Mandating / ordering that people get vaxxed is not new. Washington had all his troops vaxxed for smallpox.

I’ve had my vaccine. But I have enough common sense to know that not everyone can get a vaccine because of medical factors. Many people have had serious life altering reactions after their first shot but I guess you holier than thou pro vaxers don’t care about that. The only people that are shallow are the morons that think the anti vaxers can hurt the vaxers. If the vaccine works as they say than you are protected. That’s Why We Have The Vaccine. Maybe more people would be open to getting a vaccine if the two clowns you call president and Vice President wouldn’t have said they wouldn’t trust a vaccine if Trump had any thing to do with it. Or do the liberal morons conviently forget about that. We should all thank our 45 president for his great love of this country to get our vaccines in record time. I wish joe Biden had half the will and integrity of Trump

We were told if we got the vaccine we were protected from getting Coovid and would be able to return to "normal life"
Now we are being told that the vaccine DOESN'T protect us from unvaccinated people.

Now how exactly are unvaccinated people a danger to vaccinated people if what we were told about the vaccines is TRUE???????

We were either lied to by the CDC, medical experts and politicians INCLUDING Biden that have been preaching that vaccines are effective......Or we are being lied to by Biden that unvaccinated people are danger to the whole country.
It's insulting to the intelligence of anyone with even minimal deductive reasoning that we can't figure out that at least one of those things is a lie.

Joe Biden is an idiot.

Use your own discretion about the vaxx.

this is the information from the NZ Ministry Of health ..


“As with any vaccine, the Pfizer vaccine (Comirnaty) may NOT FULLY PROTECT everyone who gets it. However, it is highly effective if people have both doses. That means, if you do catch COVID-19, you’re far less likely to fall seriously ill and less likely to transmit the virus to others.”

When the covid vaccines were developed and approved , the delta mutation was not part of that process . It is unrealistic to expect the current vaccines will protect against new mutations . For that same reason , influenza vaccines are updated every year .

Can you show me the evidence claiming vaccinated people won’t get covid .

While people remain unvaccinated there is potential for new more harmful mutations and continued spread of covid ... that in itself represents a danger to everyone .


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/health/breakthrough-covid-infections-show-the-unvaccinated-are-now-putting-the-vaccinated-at-risk

http://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-and-protection

I would also like to point out ... There is a difference between anti-Vaxers (those who oppose vaccination ) and those who are unable to be vaccinated against covid because they have health conditions for which vaccination is contraindicated . .

Everybody knows that already, so why does joe Biden keep saying Everybody must get a vaccine. Why? Because he is a person of little intelligence, with no moral guidance or integrity. His only concern as president is to bolster more power for his party, despite the danger to America that he is impowering weather it be from Islamic extremists, illegal immigrants, antifa, or BLM. Twenty years since 9/11, on this day of rememberance you would think this day is so momentous that the president would speak to the nation with words of peace, love and unity. That won’t happen today because of Bidens disdain for half of the citizens of this country or maybe because of his cognitive impairment his handlers won’t let him speak. Whatever the case maybe joe Biden and Kamala Harris are a true embarrassment to the greatness this nation has been and always will be.

Why are you asking me the condescending question "Can you show me the evidence claiming vaccinated people won’t get covid"???

I'm not an ill informed or uninformed rube, you should know better by now. SMH

I would ask anyone the same question , but as you posted the information my response was directed to you . It is not condescending at all . As a health professional who is directly implicated by the threat covid represents I am interested in the disease and trying to help protect people rather than arguing the politics . Look forward to seeing the evidence .. from you or anyone else to back up the claim that vaccination protects from getting covid and life would return to normal .

There may not be evidence claiming vaccinated people won’t get covid however there are political leaders who HAVE said you WON'T get Covid if you get vaccinated.

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations," President Biden said in the CNN interview.

Much of the media, who tend to lean left and support Democrats like Biden, jumped in to say it was a "gaffe" to make an excuse for an erroneous statement (at best or a lie at worse)when they couldn't avoid the backlash from what was in fact misinformation.

Personally I don't think it was a gaffe because of other statements Biden has made that were untrue. Do I think Biden comment about not getting Covid if you are vaccinated was done to hurt people? Absolutely not.

I think most people should get vaccinated. I have NO problem with politicians encouraging people to get vaccinated. I DO have a problem with lying in order to coerce people to get vaccinated. I DO have a problem with FORCING people to receive ANY medication they aren't comfortable with taking.

I've been vaccinated. I had NO adverse reaction to either one of the two Pfizer vaccine shots I got other than a sore arm which went away quickly. That was my experience which I gladly share with skeptics. I've talked to a couple people who got the Moderna vaccine who had side effects that were from being sick with flu like symptoms for a day to someone who was sick for more than a week. I also share what I've heard from people who got the Moderna vaccine with skeptics.

But I'm NOT going to support FORCING ANYONE TO do what I DECIDED to do.

Someone with a brain AND a heart! There is hope for mankind yet!!
Thank you!

Hahaha, you are funny.
It's amazing that people think they're intelligent and don't even get that the words that come over their lips prove the opposite.
This is what you self-proclaimed intelligent people create: judgement, hate, division.
So much for the quality of the gene pool...

if Biden or any other politician is spreading misleading information then they need to be held accountable .

As a health professional I am very concerned about the potential for side effects or vulnerable groups who are unable to be vaccinated . I would never force someone to be vaccinated . My role is to assess and provide the most accurate information to help people make an informed choice ., which recognises the benefits , disadvantages , consequences , contraindications , alternative treatments and the right to decline treatment . Please refrain from judging all “provaxers” as one , or their agenda . My gift to those I care for and those who are unable to be vaccinated is to be vaccinated .. which I and my colleagues have done . Yes it is a personal choice , but in matters of public health mandates are sometimes necessary. I am sure the courts will decide what is legal and what is a breach of rights .

Many working in frontline roles are being pressured to vaccinate .. but they still have a choice ... if unwilling (or unable ) to be vaccinated for a front facing role under the health and safety act they can no longer work in that role and will either be deployed to a different role or risk losing their employment . There are cases currently that have been lodged with the legal system . Including a group from the NZ defence force who rejected vaccination (for other than medical issues). It will be interesting to see the outcome , and will likely set a precedence for what is to come next . Any new employment contracts will likely include a clause about covid vaccination requirement . Is that forced vaccination or free choice ? Choice always has consequences .. (good and bad ) .

Nice to see others agree… Don’t give up on mankind yet . The people of the world that believe in personal freedom and our God given rights outnumber the far left lunatics that want to shove their socialistic values down our throats. The people are waking up to see the shallow disingenuous ways of the powers that be. Joe Biden visited all 3 sites of devastation from 20 years ago and was heckled. Donald Trump visited ground zero and was cheered and honored by first responders. I think people are just Biden their time.

personal freedom is all very Bart but let me ask you a hypothetical situation. . ..,,, If there was no vaccination . The pandemic went uncontrolled. You become infected and required hospitalisation, but were unable to get a bed in hospital or receive treatment .. .,,how would you feel ?

The reality is .. there are situations were this has happened (China, Italy, New York and India ) We have seen the chaos that covid can cause to health systems or countries without resources to treat the masses . How do you think a health professional feels having to choose who lives and who dies ?
For now , Vaccination is the only tool health systems have to reduce demand on services and help manage outbreaks . I do understand the political/personal frustrations and what it feels like to have rights taken away .. but I also understand the public health crisis we are facing (and it is a crisis with the potential to be much more harmful ) . Yes .. people have the right to choose vaccination .. to choose to not live in lockdown but realistically what are the consequences of that ? How do you suggest hospital services cope in the event there are mass outbreaks globally ? How should they decide who is worthy of saving , who gets access to precious resources ? What unfolded in India with the lack of oxygen was horrific . Globally , since the start of the pandemic , there have been ongoing issues resourcing medications, medical equipment and PPE ( supplies are not infinite ). Some countries may be better placed than others .. but when there is a global demand to treat outbreaks .. . Very few countries will be untouched .

The reality is , this pandemic is not at the stage that the world can afford to let covid take hold . Global vaccination rates are inconsistent and not meeting thresholds capable of providing herd Immunity ., Countries that fail to vaccinate , provide the virus with another opportunity to mutate and learn how to bypass our immune protection . Resumption of International travel opens the door for global dissemination. How do you suggest we combat that threat ?

P.s. None of this is meant as a personal attack .. or to undermine how people feel .. just a discussion opportunity

I appreciate and understand your concern. If there were no vaccine and no room in hospitals I guess if I was one of the vulnerable unhealthy persons than I would feel helpless. But most people are not vulnerable to needing hospitalization. Many people that have had the virus did not suffer with the symptoms. If you count the millions that have had the virus and the millions that have got the vaccine that should be about 89% of Americans are protected. To demand that everybody fall in line and take what the government orders you to take is absurd. I will say it again. If you have had the vaccine you are protected from someone that hasn’t had the vaccine . The vaccine doesn’t guarantee you won’t get covid but it will keep you safe from major sickness or death.