Topic: Women choosing women as lovers
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Fri 07/09/21 08:52 AM






So many of my female friends have said they are seriously thinking about choosing a woman to be their partner.
Why do you think they say this?
My lady friends are all very strong, independent women....

I've read that when women become more evolved, as in personal growth & development & empowered in their feminine energy, they can sometimes develop feelings for another woman.
I know 1 such woman who was always married, had kids, and at some point after her divorce, when recovered and fully empowered, met the love of her love. To her shock this was another woman.
They're married. Her wife also has been married in the past, also has kids.
And they run a 7 figure business together.


Crystal, my friends are very serious. I personally think it is because their needs are not met by men.

So you think when a person is empowered, gone through growth, they're not serious?
Just wondering, as it sounds that way, hihi.

I understand it can be easier to get certain thing from another woman in some way, but personally I can't see myself truly fulfilled that way. Not just concerning sex, but the typical masculine energy a man adds to the mix.
I really feel best with a man that's empowered and has gone through quite a lot of personal growth, so same level as me. The complementing masculine & feminine energies between me and a man is such a tremendous relief!
I had that with my last partner, first time ever as before I was with men who weren't empowered, and I wasn't either then.
It's entirely different when both are.

Nevertheless, I have been in love with a woman when I was in my early 30s. Very seriously so. I was married, she was in a relationship with another woman. Nothing happened. But hell, I was in love!
And I have kissed a girl too.



I am attracted to men 100%. I guess I was surprised when it happened, but it felt very natural at the time. I wish I could find that man who lm you describe. I live in a small town, but I will not settle for an unequal.

I won't settle for less either! Certainly not now that I've experienced how it can feel, and is supposed to feel & work between man and woman.
Fingers crossed we both meet the right guy for us!



โค You are a strong woman. Keep being beautiful xxx

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Fri 07/09/21 08:52 AM

Awesome. Welcome to the contentious men to this thread. I wondered how long it would take to have the uncomfortable men start putting me down.

Yeah, happens a lot. But at least it tells us right away which ones to avoid like the plague. Neanderthal thinking men are so yesterday's news, just that some don't know that yet and desperately try to hold on to what they think is macho.
Don't let it bother you, just skip and ignore.
:heart: flowerforyou

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Fri 07/09/21 08:55 AM


Awesome. Welcome to the contentious men to this thread. I wondered how long it would take to have the uncomfortable men start putting me down.

Yeah, happens a lot. But at least it tells us right away which ones to avoid like the plague. Neanderthal thinking men are so yesterday's news, just that some don't know that yet and desperately try to hold on to what they think is macho.
Don't let it bother you, just skip and ignore.
:heart: flowerforyou



Shall do. You my lovely are my next poem. Watch for it....โค

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Fri 07/09/21 08:59 AM



Awesome. Welcome to the contentious men to this thread. I wondered how long it would take to have the uncomfortable men start putting me down.

Yeah, happens a lot. But at least it tells us right away which ones to avoid like the plague. Neanderthal thinking men are so yesterday's news, just that some don't know that yet and desperately try to hold on to what they think is macho.
Don't let it bother you, just skip and ignore.
:heart: flowerforyou



Shall do. You my lovely are my next poem. Watch for it....โค

Oohh... wow! I will!
:heart:

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Fri 07/09/21 09:27 AM

Get real. God has no gender and I doubt he hates gay people as much as humans do.



God doesn't hate anyone. He loves. He knows what we do not. He gave us a guide to living in this world so that we can be clean and healthy. Loving another is not the sin. It is the acts and confusing lust for love that are the sin and make us unhealthy not just spirituality but physically and emotionally. Sex has a purpose and marriage has a purpose.

Anyway I think women become close and they emotionally support and understand each other and they just get confused or they are tempted. Is a type of shared intimacy that maybe makes them want more. I think it happens to everyone.

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Fri 07/09/21 09:31 AM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 07/09/21 09:37 AM


Get real. God has no gender and I doubt he hates gay people as much as humans do.



God doesn't hate anyone. He loves. He knows what we do not. He gave us a guide to living in this world so that we can be clean and healthy. Loving another is not the sin. It is the acts and confusing lust for love that are the sin and make us unhealthy not just spirituality but physically and emotionally. Sex has a purpose and marriage has a purpose.

Anyway I think women become close and they emotionally support and understand each other and they just get confused or they are tempted. Is a type of shared intimacy that maybe makes them want more. I think it happens to everyone.


Your comment is appreciated, sensitive and delicate. Thank you :heart:



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Fri 07/09/21 11:00 AM




They are lesbians.

Who?



Wowen who choose women sexual partners.


Oh, tell me something I did not know. slaphead


You asked.

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Fri 07/09/21 01:17 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 07/09/21 01:20 PM
I find there are many reasons. Most often it's simply because they understand women better or because they've mostly had negative experiences with men. It doesn't really help that it's particularly trendy now and beliefs are somewhat moving in favor of it because the APA [American Psychology Association] said that it isn't a mental illness fifty or so years ago after finding no solution to cure it as a mental illness.


I'm not going to bother you about my beliefs on the subject. This is just what I've found talking to most women who plan to or are interested in choosing a woman as a partner.

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Fri 07/09/21 02:00 PM

I find there are many reasons. Most often it's simply because they understand women better or because they've mostly had negative experiences with men. It doesn't really help that it's particularly trendy now and beliefs are somewhat moving in favor of it because the APA [American Psychology Association] said that it isn't a mental illness fifty or so years ago after finding no solution to cure it as a mental illness.


I'm not going to bother you about my beliefs on the subject. This is just what I've found talking to most women who plan to or are interested in choosing a woman as a partner.

So how is it that homosexuals and lesbians have ALWAYS been that way? How does the part "bad experiences with men" fit in that fairy-tale?

Men don't suddenly fall for another man because they had a bad experience with a woman.
Women don't suddenly fall for another woman because they had a bad experience with men.
They already felt that way when younger, way before any bad experience, like we have feelings for the other gender and we just know this too.

The nonsense of trying to label it as an illness and cure it comes from a society that has no space for anything other than man-woman relationships.
The ruling power wanted everyone to sing to their song. That doesn't make it an illness.

Homosexuality goes back hundreds of years, probably to the first days of mankind.
And to be honest, who bleeping cares if the people are happy?

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Fri 07/09/21 02:14 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Fri 07/09/21 02:37 PM

Just being honest being very candid here and it goes against my religion, but I kissed a girl and I liked it.
The kiss doesnโ€™t surprise me Ladywind :wink: .

Personally I have zero interest in sexual intimacy with females . I can understand why it happens ., intimacy regardless of gender is still intimacy ... but men should not become scapegoats in such scenarios . unmet needs in this case are a matter of perspective . Curious what those needs are ??

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Fri 07/09/21 02:56 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 07/09/21 03:05 PM
I said I'm not discussing my opinion on it. I have not said either way if I agree or disagree with the idea it's a mental disorder. I haven't said anything on love either. I'm leaving the OP to her own opinions and you to yours. Choosing a partner doesn't always involve love despite the fact it is so emphasized in our culture.

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Fri 07/09/21 03:51 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Fri 07/09/21 03:53 PM

I find there are many reasons. Most often it's simply because they understand women better or because they've mostly had negative experiences with men. It doesn't really help that it's particularly trendy now and beliefs are somewhat moving in favor of it because the APA [American Psychology Association] said that it isn't a mental illness fifty or so years ago after finding no solution to cure it as a mental illness.


I'm not going to bother you about my beliefs on the subject. This is just what I've found talking to most women who plan to or are interested in choosing a woman as a partner.
Hi Michael. waving There was a time when homosexuality was seen as a mental illness but this was not just influenced by medicine , religion , culture and social conditioning played a part in tolerance and attitudes . A lot of that bias still exists today but we are learning sexual identity is much more complex and science is attempting to understand the role of genetics .

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Fri 07/09/21 09:56 PM


I find there are many reasons. Most often it's simply because they understand women better or because they've mostly had negative experiences with men. It doesn't really help that it's particularly trendy now and beliefs are somewhat moving in favor of it because the APA [American Psychology Association] said that it isn't a mental illness fifty or so years ago after finding no solution to cure it as a mental illness.


I'm not going to bother you about my beliefs on the subject. This is just what I've found talking to most women who plan to or are interested in choosing a woman as a partner.
Hi Michael. waving There was a time when homosexuality was seen as a mental illness but this was not just influenced by medicine , religion , culture and social conditioning played a part in tolerance and attitudes . A lot of that bias still exists today but we are learning sexual identity is much more complex and science is attempting to understand the role of genetics .

Appreciate your observations

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Sat 07/10/21 03:15 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 07/10/21 04:06 AM


Just being honest being very candid here and it goes against my religion, but I kissed a girl and I liked it.
The kiss doesnโ€™t surprise me Ladywind :wink: .

Personally I have zero interest in sexual intimacy with females . I can understand why it happens ., intimacy regardless of gender is still intimacy ... but men should not become scapegoats in such scenarios . unmet needs in this case are a matter of perspective . Curious what those needs are ??


Men become scapegoats? That is your perception. The topic is not about men, it is why women are chosing women. They are not sharing this info with men, they are sharing it with their women friends. I personally think it their unmet needs, I have not delved deep enough to discover why, hence the thread.
All opinions are appreciated.


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Sat 07/10/21 03:16 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 07/10/21 03:17 AM

I find there are many reasons. Most often it's simply because they understand women better or because they've mostly had negative experiences with men. It doesn't really help that it's particularly trendy now and beliefs are somewhat moving in favor of it because the APA [American Psychology Association] said that it isn't a mental illness fifty or so years ago after finding no solution to cure it as a mental illness.


I'm not going to bother you about my beliefs on the subject. This is just what I've found talking to most women who plan to or are interested in choosing a woman as a partner.


Thank you for sharing :grinning:

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Sat 07/10/21 03:19 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 07/10/21 03:21 AM


I find there are many reasons. Most often it's simply because they understand women better or because they've mostly had negative experiences with men. It doesn't really help that it's particularly trendy now and beliefs are somewhat moving in favor of it because the APA [American Psychology Association] said that it isn't a mental illness fifty or so years ago after finding no solution to cure it as a mental illness.


I'm not going to bother you about my beliefs on the subject. This is just what I've found talking to most women who plan to or are interested in choosing a woman as a partner.

So how is it that homosexuals and lesbians have ALWAYS been that way? How does the part "bad experiences with men" fit in that fairy-tale?

Men don't suddenly fall for another man because they had a bad experience with a woman.
Women don't suddenly fall for another woman because they had a bad experience with men.
They already felt that way when younger, way before any bad experience, like we have feelings for the other gender and we just know this too.

The nonsense of trying to label it as an illness and cure it comes from a society that has no space for anything other than man-woman relationships.
The ruling power wanted everyone to sing to their song. That doesn't make it an illness.

Homosexuality goes back hundreds of years, probably to the first days of mankind.
And to be honest, who bleeping cares if the people are happy?



Hmmm, this thread is about heterosexual woman chosing to date women. flowerforyou

SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž's photo
Sat 07/10/21 04:15 AM
Well, apparently women are quite 'sexually flexible'. Some people -male & female- are bi-curious and quite a lot are bi-sexual.
I think bi-curious would still identify as heterosexual but they have an interest in experiencing intimacy with the same gender.

Research comes up with a possible explanation for women's bi-curiosity or bi-sexuality: polygamy.
In the past there have been times where a man had many women and let's face it, he cannot satisfy them all. In many cases a lot of wives were just status symbols and the husband only had sex with a few. Meaning these wives NEVER got their needs met.
The research suggest this opened them up to getting intimate with other wives. And in an odd way this also helped keep the harmony & peace in the harem.

Another thing... in porn you get to see women being intimate. Men find it arousing and drool over 2 women playing together, and it's quite commonly accepted. Women can find it arousing to watch as well, and there's little to no taboo on it. After all men watch that porn themselves, making it rather normal.
Then it's not a far stretch to a woman wanting to experience that for real to find out what it's like.
And all the while still identify as 'hetero sexual'.

I've had a period where I was very intrigued by the subject, but still identified as heterosexual. And the intrigue had limits... thinking about certain intimate acts with another woman was totally off-putting to me, a 100% no-way!

All in all I think there's a fine line between 100% hetero and hetero with bi-curious feelings. I've read long time ago that almost everyone in essence is bi-curious.

There are also a lot of bi-sexual men btw. I know as I've come across it on a dating site a few years back. Many simply stating it on their profile. I was shocked at the number!!
Difference is that for men is they have to deal with a powerful taboo on the matter.

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Sat 07/10/21 05:05 AM



Just being honest being very candid here and it goes against my religion, but I kissed a girl and I liked it.
The kiss doesnโ€™t surprise me Ladywind :wink: .

Personally I have zero interest in sexual intimacy with females . I can understand why it happens ., intimacy regardless of gender is still intimacy ... but men should not become scapegoats in such scenarios . unmet needs in this case are a matter of perspective . Curious what those needs are ??


Men become scapegoats? That is your perception. The topic is not about men, it is why women are chosing women. They are not sharing this info with men, they are sharing it with their women friends. I personally think it their unmet needs, I have not delved deep enough to discover why, hence the thread.
All opinions are appreciated.


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yes , I understand the topic :-) . I didnโ€™t bring men in to this discussion .

Three quotes from you ...,.
โ€œCrystal , my friends are very serious . I personally think it is because their needs are not met by men.โ€œ (quoted by ladywind)

โ€œMen mostly make you feel like a sexual object .. women do notโ€. (Quoted by ladywind )

โ€œPerhaps if men are not so controlling and believing they are superior because of twisting scripture and their religion, women would be not so unattracted to the average man โ€œ. (Quoted by ladywind).

I stand by my earlier comment :-)

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Sat 07/10/21 07:26 AM
The topic is not about men, it is why women are chosing women.

There are any number of reasons why a select group of women might choose another woman for intimacy.

- needs not being fulfilled
- inadequate availability of 'prime' male candidates
- strong emotional connection
- erotic precision
- curiosity
- monkey see, monkey do
- revenge
- strong need to show independence from males
- romanticism
- display
- to feel in control
- desire to experience a role reversal
- testosterone repulsion

The reasons are just as diverse as the individuals.

As for your passionate, enjoyable kiss?
Only you can know why you enjoyed it.
Likely because women understand other women, so a woman will instinctively know how another woman wants to be kissed.

While a passion-play might be enjoyable, it is a long way from an intimate relationship. However, since women understand women better than men, relationships would likely be a bit more intimate and romantic.

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Sat 07/10/21 07:39 AM

Waiting for Rockgnomes input. He will floor us all x laugh


I have no input.
What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own
whever, is their own business.


With that said, I won't be in a relationship with a
bisexual woman. Simply based on her sexual attraction
to either gender, there's no one person who will
ever be able to meet her needs. Which will lead to her
either cheating, or having a strong desire to.

Gnomie don't share his playthings.