Hi Calle .. Here is the latest update from the Indian Council of Medical Research regarding use of Ivermectiin ...

“Following prophylactic use , the
Indian council of medical research have now excluded ivermectin from national treatment guidelines because of insufficient efficacy evidence based on randomised trials held in India and abroad “tv

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-57838033.amp

You may also be interested to know that Merck the manufacturer of Ivermectiin, released this “there is no scientific study as yet that proves Ivermectin works against Covid-19.”


http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300398880/covid19-kiwis-warned-not-to-selftreat-with-ivermectin-as-import-attempts-grow


”Ivermectin has become the subject of much debate and conjecture in both the popular press and social media for the treatment of COVID-19. While there is low-quality data that supports further evaluation of Ivermectin in well-conducted clinical trials, there is as yet no evidence that supports the use of Ivermectin for treatment of COVID-19 outside the setting of one of these trials.

Additionally, there is reason to doubt these trials will demonstrate benefit, as the level of Ivermectin required to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 in-vitro greatly exceeds the highest safe dose in humans.

Off-label use of Ivermectin for treatment of COVID-19 is strongly not recommended.

Ivermectin is a critical medicine for treating some parasitic infections, including Strongyloides stercoralis, which can rarely cause life threatening 'hyper infection syndrome' in people who receive immunosuppressive medications. As a result, Ivermectin is regularly used to treat proven or suspected Strongyloidiasis in patients who are treated with immunosuppressive medications, which include many of the proven treatments for COVID-19 (e.g., dexamethasone and tocilizumab). Some people with COVID-19, who have lived in areas endemic for Strongyloides, receive treatment for this condition in addition to other COVID-19 specific therapies.

Ivermectin can, and does, cause harm when misused.”

http://medplus.co.nz/news/entry/evidence-based-management-covid-19/

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/300411767/pfizer-says-covid19-vaccine-works-in-kids-aged-5-to-11

Update from Pfizer re covid vaccination for children aged 5 - 11 years

Song dedicated to New Zealanders

http://youtu.be/xDlI3bKA3P0

An article on Ivermectin in treatment of all phases of Covid and all variants that actually casts quite the positive light.
Somewhere in there it says that ivermectin has 5 ways of dealing with Covid. It binds to the spike protein so that the virus cannot enter the cells.
Low risk and side-effects, although I agree it's best to consult a doctor, especially when you got certain illness and/or medication that could have a reaction with ivermectin.
The list of these meds can be found online, this article also provides a link to that.

http://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/faq-on-ivermectin/

The fact that science cannot prove it works -either that or keeps it hidden from us- doesn't mean it isn't a good solution.
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Personally I find it damned scary they now also want to inject some substance into kids.
Now that they're even going for our kids, we won't have many healthy & natural people left. Just the ones like me that have refused to take that creepy stuff, and that they are now trying to force to take it by excluding us.
They're even threatening to exclude us from medical care! And what the hell for? A disease that most people naturally recover from.

I cannot believe how so many people willingly expose their offspring to something like this. Our kids?! FFS!! That's basically doing something to the entire human race... And none of the people who went for this stuff find that creepy?
THAT is even more creepy to be honest than the rest. That they're willing to expose themselves to lord knows what substance, but their kids???

aww that is cute Di .. lol good to see the international recognition a little country like NZ gets . We are doing well . Auckland has dropped to level 3 and the rest of the country is in level 2. Our vaccination drive is amazing .. watch this space Nz will show the rest of the world .. how this is done they are offering bacon sandwiches

did you read the disclaimer Crystal ??

FLCC. .. Status of Recommendations

The Ivermectin/Mask+ Protocol has been developed by experienced physicians treating hospitalized COVID-19 patents; at this time, it has not been adopted as a medical consensus. While clinical experience and research to-date is promising, these products have not been proven to be safe and effective by prospective, randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled studies acceptable to US medical associations and regulatory bodies. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved Ivermectin or the Mask+ protocol for COVID-19 and such use is considered “off-label.” Based on increasing evidence, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) recently upgraded its Ivermectin recommendation from “do not use” to “neither for nor against,” the same as for monoclonal antibodies and convalescent plasma. No treatment, however, including Ivermectin or the Mask+ Protocol, has been accepted by our public health system as proven to prevent, mitigate or treat COVID-19.


Public Health Notice

The Ivermectin/Mask+ Protocol is not a substitute for preventive measures. Patients using the preventive protocols should follow all measures recommended by public health authorities, including social distancing, masking and vaccinations as appropriate.


FDA Notice

The dietary ingredients discussed are not intended for use by consumers to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. The information contained on this Website has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.


Science is important to determine safety and efficacy of any treatment . Ivermectin is toxic in the wrong dose . To use any medication for a reason other than it has been approved necessitates scientific trial data to assess safety and efficacy .

do you know that newborn infants and young children have died from covid ? How tragic is that ?


Without childhood immunisations infant mortality would increase . Vaccination helps keep children safe . Did you vaccinate your children crystal against measles, mumps , rubella etc .

Pfizer continues to prove its safety .. now more than 5 billion vaccines world wide . Children deserve to be protected . There is no way to predict that they will only have a mild covid infection . At least one third of current hospitalisations for covid have been children and young adults . Delta has changed the demographics .

Seems there are less Covid cases in States in USA, with
high vaccination rates.

As of today certain rules have gone, others implemented, result is that it's not getting better.
We don't need to keep distance, so we can hug and shake hands. At the same time C-passes are required as of today for certain things.

Many have already said to not ask for proof and not give a toss about it, not even if they lose their business.
It looks like many feel this way, and I'm hoping this group will grow! We don't need a Nazi regime. Would've been different if they'd said that it would be temporary, like the Danes did. But that's not what this c of a PM here is aiming for it seems.
Some other countries are implementing insane measures to indirectly force people to take the poison. Now if a situation is dire in a country I can sort of understand although it still isn't right.
But if the situation is not really all that bad. then there is no reason to go there other than having a hidden agenda.

So far we have 82% fully vaccinated of 18+ and 12+ is not far behind.

Death rate worldwide is still 2%, in some country much lower, recovery rates are real high, so there is no reason for these Nazi practices.
We apparently have 99,5% Delta here, yet cases and death rates have NOT gone up at all! While they know the current vaccine doesn't do anything much concerning Delta.
So again, there's no reason for all the fuss.
Urging people to be careful, fair enough. Offering vaccines if people want, fair enough. But it shouldn't go much further than that, certainly not exclusion.
We could all go to a restaurant to dine or have a coffee, wasn't a problem (out of lockdown that is). Now we suddenly need a pass? WTF for?

I'd already replied to Toody, but it has disappeared...


The US does not have a high vaccination %
In many states is below 50%!

perhaps see what winter brings Despite Israel’s High vaccination rates including booster shots they are having a resurgence of covid infections as well as indications flu has made a reappearance . You may also be interested in my next post about a growing number of physicians indicating that they will no longer offer their services to unvaccinated people . How does that make you feel ??

Antivaxers may face further exclusion other than travel or social entry ....

A growing number of physicians are deciding not to offer their services to those choosing to remain unvaccinated ( without a legitimate reason) .


http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/300416171/covid19-us-doctor-who-has-lost-over-100-patients-says-some-deny-virus-from-their-death-beds-i-dont-believe-you

http://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/health/florida-doctor-will-refuse-to-treat-unvaccinated-patients.amp

The American Medical association provides the following advice re legal/ethical obligations ...

http://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/ethics/can-physicians-decline-unvaccinated-patients

http://amp.commercialappeal.com/amp/8210503002

Obviously aimed at antivaxers and does not include those ineligible to be vaccinated because of medical reasons or other exemptions .

Curious to know if this consequence has public support or not ??

With many schools about to reopen there is currently debate about the need for improved filtration systems at schools and compulsory use of masks for older children/teenagers . Class room environments /day care facilities are considered high risk for spread of covid , especially given vaccination of such populations has not been adequately addressed for those under 12 years of age . Interested to know what teachers recommend (Bonnie lol) and how parents feel about children potentially being exposed to covid in a learning environment .

I don't know what it's like where you live but in the United States there are many avenues to get "personalized medical advise" despite the propaganda that our healthcare system is terrible. In lower income areas there are free clinics, there is medicaid for low income people, there is medicare for people over 65 and through the ACA there are Federal subsidies that dramatically reduce the cost of medical insurance. Before I qualified for medicare I was on a "fixed income" I CHOSE to pay for health insurance rather than having a newer car, going out to eat multiple times a month, gamble etc. because it was something I prioritized. I'm so tired of people saying they "can't afford" something as important as healthcare/health insurance but CAN afford to buy and do things the DON'T need. I'm all about people having the freedom to chose what they do or don't do.............but I'm not about making excuses for people making bad choices either.

If you do a web search using DuckDuckGo there are several articles regarding the over prescription of antibiotics including the source I used.

As far as my Doctors not knowing the RARE side effect Lipitor, every statin or every drug they prescribe I don't find it surprising. I don't thing every medical professional or doctor reads and memorizes every side effect of every drug they prescribe or use, especially the rare side effects. The should know the COMMON side effects but I don't think its possible to memorize the multitude of rare side effects of drugs.

hi blondey,
I had those child hood illnesses you mentioned as a child, rubella almost killed me..
back then, it was a common practice for parents to have us kids play together to catch them if one of us had one.. so, that we would be young enough to fight them off and be more likely not to have the side effects. that we would have , if we got them when we were older.

regarding covid,
the science supports that most children that are otherwise healthy. would have a very slim chance of having a severe reaction to covid .
of the 22% of otherwise healthy cases(no pre existing conditions) of child hood covid, there was a smaller than 1% that showed they were severe or life threatening..
as a medical professional, you should know that more kids are killed by bee stings, or bicycle accedents every year, then have had a severe reaction to covid. and while sad that some babies have died from covid.. I think you are well aware , that number is a miniscule number compared to the houndreds (thousands) of other causes of infant mortality, they are no less tragic, just because their not in the news.

I'm not by any means discounting the fact that any illness or death that might happen is aweful, when kids are concerned. no matter the cause.
but statistically speaking. with covid. the odds here are in their favor.

in regards to the hospitalizations.
a lot of them are being reported/ being investigated as being "non medically necessary", and are just patience being held for observation.
this is reportedly across the board. and not just kids.
the reports state, that because hospitals make most their money by doing elective procedures. (which are currently being prevented) hospitals are admitting covid patients, to fill the empty beds. so they can collect the insurance pay out.
this is not to say there are not some legit cases.
just that it is suggested the numbers have been overly inflated. to push the narrative.

personally, and speaking just for my self, I would be very concerned about the very real side effects that many people have had with the vaccines.
and I would weigh the risk/costs carefully. before forcing my child to take it.
I would not be able, in good conscience, to put my belief, ahead of the parents. suggesting that they should or should not vaccinate their child against covid. and at this point and time I would not force them too. it should be strictly left up to them.

Hi Richard ....

I am not aware of hospitals in my country admitting patients just to fill beds . There is a criteria for admission .

As for covid hospitalisations for children .. there is an increasing trend which demonstrates children are vulnerable to covid and the risks are real . paediatricians have this to say ...

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/126275022/covid19-infections-and-hospitalisations-among-children-are-surging-in-the-united-states

Did you also have diphtheria as a child ??? Or were you immunised against it ???

no, and I would probably guess not. if I was I'm not aware of it.
I would have to check on if it was still active in the states. was not vaccinated against rabies or typhus either. LOL ;-) this gives a break down in total numbers, percentages and ages. for school age children. for the 20-21 school year.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6939e2.htm

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U.S. Vaccination Recommendations...

The current U.S. childhood immunization schedule for diphtheria includes five diphtheria toxoid immunizations before age six years, plus one booster dose for adolescents. All diphtheria immunizations for children are given in an injection combined with tetanus toxoid and pertussis vaccine (known as DTaP).

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/diphtheria

dont matter, since that was not in your original list any way blondey,
and it still dont change that I'm still here does it?
nor that the covid vaccines have some serious side effects, including deaths.
and the odds still favor school age children that catch covid.to be much less likely to have severe reactions too it(unless they have at least 1 pre existing condition) with an extremely high recovery rate.. then to have a bad one requiring hospitalization in an ICU..
yes, theres always risk with any illness.
whats the stats for adults and children that have came down with bacterial pneumonia from using the same mask for the full school/work day, for days in a row.
or from being forced to wear them while participating in sports?
theres risk just getting out of bed in the morning you can trip putting on your slipper and smack your head on a night stand. not saying it's likely. but it could happen.

lets try this perspective??
if there was 20 pistols on a table 6 shots per cylinder, and only one had a single bullet, the rest of the pistols are empty.
but you dont know which one holds the bullet, or if the hammer will strike it.. would you blindly walk up select one of them, and pull a the trigger.
while pointing it at your child ?
as I said, personally, I would choose not to make any one point any of them in the first place. and let them choose to just do their best to keep their child out of harms way.