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I was born in the USA. I traced my father's side back a few generations to Sweden and my mother's side back to a King in Scotland in the 1400's.
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Britain has definitely done more bad than good in Africa, especially in my country Nigeria
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hi
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Edited by
nickistaken
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Sun 02/23/20 11:48 AM
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Of course everyone is! It is only a sick and deranged group of Americans stuck with a guilt trip trying to tell everyone that you aren't allowed to be like that. You like your country unless you are filled with programmed guilt. Not necessarily. There are people born in countries which are oppressed. Think of any exodus in history. Some people run in fear from their country of origin. Some people are ashamed of their country of origin. I was proud of the United States. So proud I committed my life, health and welfare to its defense. There was a greatness in it worthy of pride. Recently, that pride has waned to shame. We are belligerent, forceful and narcissistic on the world stage. We force our beliefs on the rest of the world. We demand, prevent and change others to be like us. We enable the same in our allies. We don't even respect our own ideals in-house. Our own government is destroying our national pride. Our unity is fragmented. Personal immediate self-gratification is now more important than national unity. How can anyone be proud of that? The fact that EVERYONE is doing it. (DUH...) Not enough humans want to overcome human nature. The country was founded for the right reasons (best thing going in a barbaric world) and over time, some humans have made selfish power choices there. So nothing is perfect. We already knew that. If you think that is bad, you should see the people filled with guilt and how they try to assuage it, sheesh... (Edited for speeling) |
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Extremely proud of the coincidence I had nothing to do with. HAAAA ... exactly. |
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Canada
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Seamus mention that big bro.
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Britain has definitely done more bad than good in Africa, especially in my country Nigeria |
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The fact that EVERYONE is doing it. (DUH...)
I'm not sure where you are getting your facts but not everyone is doing it. In my country patriotism seems to be a dying sentiment among the new adult populations. When the towers fell and the pentagon was hit, our nation should have rallied together like when Pearl was hit but we were divided. If the attack on Pearl had a similar response, while we were bickering among ourselves the Japanese would have invaded our lands and killed most of our population. I've even read articles and read comments on social media where citizens from my country even say Pearl Harbor was an inside job. https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2000822 Mexican flag raised at Maywood, CA post office (08/28/2006) Read the comments Read comments on facebook or twitter during POTUS election years. EVERYONE is NOT doing it! |
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Edited by
Blaze
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Mon 02/24/20 05:49 PM
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India.
I'm not proud of my nationality. Its not that i hate my nationality i love it. But there is nothing to be proud of it. I am a part of my country and my contribution to society does not dictate how my country behaves. I can be proud of specific people in my country who's contribution benefits the masses. I'm internationalist(Marxist) and i believe borders of whole world would eventually be abolished. I'm patriotic, but not a nationalist. When a man has achieved nothing in his life he can always be proud of his birth, royalty, nationality. The two world wars have taught lessons particularly to Europeans that Nationalism is a threat. Nationalism was the cause for collapse of many countries. |
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I'm extremely proud of my nationality.
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India and yes I’m proud
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India. I'm not proud of my nationality. Its not that i hate my nationality i love it. But there is nothing to be proud of it. I am a part of my country and my contribution to society does not dictate how my country behaves. I can be proud of specific people in my country who's contribution benefits the masses. I'm internationalist(Marxist) and i believe borders of whole world would eventually be abolished. I'm patriotic, but not a nationalist. When a man has achieved nothing in his life he can always be proud of his birth, royalty, nationality. The two world wars have taught lessons particularly to Europeans that Nationalism is a threat. Nationalism was the cause for collapse of many countries. That's what I was referring to. You shouldn't be proud of the result of a mere coincidence You should be truly proud of the person you are and what you've achieved |
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Nationalism and hierarchy are closely related. The fascists when rose to power, established a class hierarchy. Nationalists are against egalitarianism because they believe they are always superior to other groups around the world. A nationalist will favour their own government even if the government is committing mass murders of certain groups. It doesn't matter to the nationalist if the state is doing right or wrong. They have blind faith in the state and the state sells them nationalism or a feeling of serving the nation for the best. When in fact, the state actually fools people by selling them idea of nationalism, to fulfill its own goals irrespective of people's interests.
Nationalism is a disease which we should have buried deep in the ground right after world war 2. |
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India. I'm not proud of my nationality. Its not that i hate my nationality i love it. But there is nothing to be proud of it. I am a part of my country and my contribution to society does not dictate how my country behaves. I can be proud of specific people in my country who's contribution benefits the masses. I'm internationalist(Marxist) and i believe borders of whole world would eventually be abolished. I'm patriotic, but not a nationalist. When a man has achieved nothing in his life he can always be proud of his birth, royalty, nationality. The two world wars have taught lessons particularly to Europeans that Nationalism is a threat. Nationalism was the cause for collapse of many countries. That's what I was referring to. You shouldn't be proud of the result of a mere coincidence You should be truly proud of the person you are and what you've achieved on this we agree. This was something my elders taught me actually, that I have no right to feel pride or shame about that which I have nothing to do with. But not everyone uses pride and shame in such a personal way. Many people do have pride and shame based in mere association. |
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I have no right to feel pride or shame about that which I have nothing to do with.
Not sure about other countries but in the States being a citizen means you have something to do with it. If you ever voted, paid taxes, used a park, fished, hunted, driven on the interstate, flown, attended church, bought fresh food or spent money you most certainly have something to do with it. You may not have much individual say in its matters but you are still a citizen. Therefore any pride or shame you feel for your country is justified. |
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From the American continent yes
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Hi
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Australia and am
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sama
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