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6th day in a row of lower numbers of new cases, today really lower: 655.
I think we can carefully begin to think of a downward trend! Unfortunately my province is going to ease the restrictions for tourist in May. I'm not happy about that. Way too soon, especially now that we are beginning to see improvement. That's the time to stay at it for at least another 3 weeks, preferably longer. |
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It's no time for jokes especially from someone in power.
I watch the daily briefing at 5 pm here and what ever you're political persuasion is I think they come across very professionally, calm and to the point, especially the experts, advisors etc. If I was one of the scientist's answering questions from the stupid media I would have to say "and what the f### do you know" 
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April 24, 11:09 a.m.
The makers of the cleaning product Lysol issued a statement urging against the improper use of disinfectants. This came after President Donald Trump discussed possible medical benefits of disinfectants without any supporting evidence during Thursday's White House Coronavirus briefing, the New York Times reported. The manufacturer, British company, Reckitt Benckiser Group (RB), said it has a responsibility to provide consumers with accurate and up-to-date information that health experts provide. "As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route). As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information," the statement read. Emergency management officials in Washington state immediately responded to the president's claims and urged the public to utilize resources provided by the state if people have questions about COVID-19. “Please don’t eat tide pods or inject yourself with any kind of disinfectant,” they wrote on Twitter. “Just don’t make a bad situation worse.” Sheeple Disclaimer |
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Edited by
maybwecan
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Sat 04/25/20 12:51 PM
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The mayor here received significant pushback after proposing to reopen the "strip" soon...considering all of the hospitals and clinics and medical personnel here (and there are hundreds), it is absolutely astonishing that no advisory group / board/panel of medical experts has been appointed/requested/formed to provide informed commentary and advise during this pandemic...
and by the way, I heard she basically responded "no way" when asked if she were planning to go to the reopened "strip"... The latest numbers here are encouraging...i think we are nearing the flattening zone... (Too bad the IQ does not extend to negative values...a few candidates have emerged IMO) |
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Emerging concern that covid is responsible for blood clots in younger adults .....
http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/121276557/coronavirus-young-healthy-people-dying-from-covid19related-strokes |
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Stanford, and now the World Health Organization,
are both reporting that the Wuhan virus has a significantly lower mortality rate, than previously thought. |
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The mortality rate reporting seems to be inconsistent and inaccurate . Some countries are only reporting deaths occurring in hospitals .. community deaths .. rest home deaths are not being included in their statistics . I believe the mortality rate is much higher . Misrepresentation of figures achieves little .
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We have past the 20.000 mark now of deaths.
Imo now is the time to start counting deaths as 20.000 is the usual amount that die of the flu virus each year. |
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I'll take the word of scientists, over the word of media.
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You may know this blondey.
But before this virus many terminally ill people who will are going to die sometime, if they have life support retracted or are put on what I think they call "Liverpool pathway" because there is no hope for them will have cause of death marked as pneumonia or such like because of treatment being stopped. So I think it's miss leading to blame every death in these cases on the virus? |
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deaths from influenza are not Required to be recorded ....the figures you are quoting are based on “estimated” statistical modelling only .
In many cases the flu does not cause death ... it is usually secondary complications such as a bacterial respiratory pneumonia that causes death . |
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So in most cases covid is a secondary cause?
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Edited by
Blondey111
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Sun 04/26/20 01:56 AM
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You may know this blondey. But before this virus many terminally ill people who will are going to die sometime, if they have life support retracted or are put on what I think they call "Liverpool pathway" because there is no hope for them will have cause of death marked as pneumonia or such like because of treatment being stopped. So I think it's miss leading to blame every death in these cases on the virus? The Liverpool pathway is a palliative careplan to guide care . Has nothing to do with determining cause of death . |
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So in most cases covid is a secondary cause? To give you an example ... you shared once In the forums you have atrial fibrillation ...if you contract covid you could be considered at higher risk for complications .. If the complications were fatal should they attribute that as AF or covid :-) |
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Wowza! Another day of fewer cases!! We do have a downward trend! Also fewer dead and fewer people hospitalised.
So I suppose it is some 2-3 months indeed, which I expected based on China. A number of other countries are beginning to do somewhat better and if you look at the graphs it seems most here around us had a peak around the same time. Not the UK though, there's no clear peak, and no going down by the looks of things either. No going down for the USA either, and Canada seems to be in the middle of its peak now... In any case, fingers crossed it will keep going the way it is now, then with another month we should be quite close to back to normal. |
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Wowza! Another day of fewer cases!! We do have a downward trend! Also fewer dead and fewer people hospitalised. So I suppose it is some 2-3 months indeed, which I expected based on China. A number of other countries are beginning to do somewhat better and if you look at the graphs it seems most here around us had a peak around the same time. Not the UK though, there's no clear peak, and no going down by the looks of things either. No going down for the USA either, and Canada seems to be in the middle of its peak now... In any case, fingers crossed it will keep going the way it is now, then with another month we should be quite close to back to normal. That's great news Crystal, although as you say, the position is less clear in the UK. |
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April 26, 7:45 a.m.
The World Health Organization (WHO) recommended countries refrain from issuing certificates of immunity to people who have been infected with the virus since there is still no evidence that people who test positive for the new coronavirus and recover are immunized and protected against reinfection, The World Health Organization warned. "There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection," WHO said in a statement. April 25, 8:23 p.m.
Here are the latest global COVID-19 numbers, provided by researchers at Johns Hopkins University: Total confirmed cases: 2,892,508 Total confirmed deaths: 202,455 Total confirmed recoveries: 815,658 The U.S. has more confirmed cases than any other nation with 936,293 cases confirmed. April 25, 6:10 p.m.
Smoking could increase the chances of contracting COVID-19, according to The U.S. Food and Drug Administration. In addition, smoking can worsen the outcome in people who develop the virus. “People who smoke cigarettes may be at increased risk of infection with the virus that causes COVID-19, and may have worse outcomes from COVID-19,” the FDA told Bloomberg. |
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Wowza! Another day of fewer cases!! We do have a downward trend! Also fewer dead and fewer people hospitalised. So I suppose it is some 2-3 months indeed, which I expected based on China. A number of other countries are beginning to do somewhat better and if you look at the graphs it seems most here around us had a peak around the same time. Not the UK though, there's no clear peak, and no going down by the looks of things either. No going down for the USA either, and Canada seems to be in the middle of its peak now... In any case, fingers crossed it will keep going the way it is now, then with another month we should be quite close to back to normal. That's great news Crystal, although as you say, the position is less clear in the UK. It is indeed great news! As for the UK, it is odd isn't it, how it can have a different pattern in some countries. Let's hope there's soon going to be a downward trend in the UK too! |
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Crystal, they are saying it's rife in the ethnic communities especially London and Birmingham. They live in bigger family groups and without being rude the cleanliness isn't good plus these groups rarely follow guidelines like us.
Plus some of those from Eastern Europe are the same. I think the only way to calculate it is per head of population. If you compare say Sweden who the stupid media keeps quoting and saying how great they have delt with it they are far worse. |
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Crystal, they are saying it's rife in the ethnic communities especially London and Birmingham. They live in bigger family groups and without being rude the cleanliness isn't good plus these groups rarely follow guidelines like us. Plus some of those from Eastern Europe are the same. I think the only way to calculate it is per head of population. If you compare say Sweden who the stupid media keeps quoting and saying how great they have delt with it they are far worse. Ach... the media... EVen that BBC article that Blondey quoted was complete nonsense. I don't know about ethnic communities, I take it you mean refugees, and the like? We have many of those in the cities too, but remarkably the cities are doing quite well. The Hague, Rotterdam (huge numbers of non Dutch), Amsterdam, Tilburg, Breda, Utrecht... The Hague, Amsterdam, Rotterdam especially had ridiculously low numbers for a long time (less than 10!) and even now are doing good. The island above me, and another peninsula close-bye, are not doing all that well, yet I don't think they have many -let's say- ethnic people at all. So the spread is weird. One would think denser populated areas are higher in cases, and for some regions this seems correct, yet then why NOT the cities? Somehow you can't make head nor tail of it and I wonder if so called experts can. |
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