The Manager at my work was very rude to me today in front of her partner. She is highly strung and I am not. She accused me of taking a 30 minute break, when I took 15 minutes.
I know this is going to be a regular ongoing accurance, because she is the paranoid type.
I want to quit, I can easily find another job tomorrow. How much notice should I give?
I train people, am great at my job, but she happens to make everyone on our team on edge. Her manner is weird as a supposed leader.
I want to quit now, like give her no notice and leave her begging for staff or me lol. Up with loyalty, she has none to me.
She will never apologize when in the wrong.
What would you do?

I'm struggling with the same thing right now. My boss isn't rude, but very uptight and the amount of work load that's required is ridiculous. It's an extremely fast paced environment, that and her constant micro-managing only adds to the stress. It's effecting my physical body, as well as my mental state of mind.

Typically, here in the US, they ask you to give two weeks notice. It's the norm and what many call being responsible and what employers look for when hiring you... did you give a two week notice. It's a double standard because most places of employment are an "at will" establishment, which means they can fire you at will, without notice. Seems only fair that we can quit without notice, unfortunately it could cause problems in obtaining another job.

I have left a couple places without notice, due to rudeness of the management and/or the way they conducted their business, which was against my principles and values. I was offered my old job back, and I'm taking it, so theoretically I don't need to give notice, I can start my new job tomorrow.

However, I have a conscience and a part of me feels I'm doing something wrong by not giving notice. I'm not if that's the "societal expectation" that's driven in me which is causing it or if it's me trying to be fair, maybe both.

Only you can really decide. Will you be okay with leaving now? Do you feel it's right? And what happens if the next job doesn't work out, are you prepared to have a few short term positions on your resume? These are questions I've asked myself in deciding what is best.

With my current position, it's causing me physical pain so I will work through Christmas and the end of the week, possibly, but I'm over doing what is the right thing in other's eyes, I need to be true to myself and take care of my body.

Hope that helps. Rudeness from an employer is not an easy thing to deal with or go back and face, it generally gets worse!

Hey girlfriend. My conscience tells me it is fine to leave without giving any notice. After she realized she was wrong, we had to work together. She tried to suck up to me by conversing about random stuff. But at the back of my mind, when noone else was around, I knew I would bring her issue up.
I bought it up about after work. If I am in the wrong, I won't hesitate to apologise. But she did this weird avoidance/denial thing.
The thing is, I have no respect for her, but I do care about her and the ladies I am training, silly enough.
I can't stand pride. I don't need the job or the reference. So I have made up my mind to leave.
I will tell the Owner, who is the best man ever why. She can think about her behavior and how you ought to treat staff.
So sorry you are in physical pain. How can you make your situation better

Since I'm an a-hole,
I probably don't always give the best advice.

If quitting, I'd recommend the notice of intent time,
that's considered 'standard professional' in your
country.

Here, it's two weeks.


However, that type of manager, seems the sort
to fire you, for having the audacity to quit on her.


So, I recommend....

Waiting until the 30 minute break period is over,
then telling her you quit... Pretty much on the spot.


Whatever you choose.
Just don't quit in such a way, as to jeopardise your
future chances with other employers.

I have thought it through. Hell, I have the gift of the gab, so to speak. I get jobs without a C V. People can tell I am trustworthy and capable, apart from her obviously. But she finds fault, where no fault lies.

Sounds like you're making the right choice for you, kudos!

Thanks, I've done a lot to help the mental stress and it's working. However, with the physical pain, short of taking massive doses of pain killers, not much is working or can be done about it. The job is physically demanding and requires a lot of lifting and carrying of heavy trays and plates. I'm weary of continually straining my shoulder/upper arm and causing permanent damage... not to mention I can't stand having to take any kind of over the counter medication.

Being a perfectionist and stubborn, I hung in there trying to make it work. Plus leaving made me feel somewhat like a failure, only I'm not. I just needed to get to a point of accepting that not all jobs are best suited for me. I do better in a medium paced environment that isn't quite so physically demanding.

I don't need the reference either, I have my past history to back me up. And I have another job that I will be starting next week. My old boss asked me to return and guaranteed I'd have the schedule I want and is working hard to give me a pay raise.

Best of luck to you girlfriend, I hope everything works our for you.

It will. I am so pleased to hear you have a better job lined up. Non sexually, lol, I would like to give you a massage. It really helps when a masseuse knows what one is doing.
Sometimes people cry when they have their first massage. It is the lack of being touched.

Thanks, and yes, a massage would be wonderful. Though the last one I went to did more damage than good. If it were just mental stress, I'd hang in there for the two weeks, but I'm tired of being in so my pain. No job is worth that.

Rock brought up a good point. In your case you might be better off quitting on the spot. If she didn't fire you after giving notice, she most likely will make your life hell for that time period.

It is a weird situation. I know she appreciates me, but it is almost like she can't help but be a b$#tch. Lol, she needs therapy to discover her "disposition".
I have no desire to help, she is too proud. Pride comes before a fall, it is said.

Secure another job first. Let her know exactly why your quitting and without notice.

I have a sibling who is like that... very difficult to be around!

Honestly a two week notice is the norm for all it is what we ask for at work.. But then our work environment is actually the best I have seen at times some of the guys don't get along. But when brought to the attention of the owners they pretty much nip it in the bud..

Even tho I say two weeks at times it is best to have a job lined up due to many Employers will let you go much sooner sometimes that day.. It all depends on what one does and if they are the vindictive time to mess something up before they leave..

But it is much better to be able to tell your next Employer that you did give a notice even if you end up quitting sooner.. For you can always tell them a couple days later that the job you got wants you to start sooner.. easy way out ..

Myself I have only quit a job without a notice once due to the Manger I had to deal with the owner was her live in partner.. But when it came down to it and he found out why I quit he made her call me and offer me my job back on my terms.. I did go back and work another 6 months then went on my way.. Just to show her...

Never burn bridges for the wrong reason.
Keep your Resume intact, there forever, that you
gave the standard notice.

Revenge rarely pays off.

Great advice, thank you for your wisdom people.

Yup, that's what I'd do. If you are that good at your job and have that good of a reputation, a burned bridge won't hurt that much.

Well if she's a betch, next time say "no wonder nobody likes you" give it a couple of days to work.
I mean if your thinking of quitting.
you never know she might crack. And then she will be in your power :)

Man, that's a tough 1

First of, have it out with her, of course, but, you've done that

Second, and in a different circumstance, punch her. But, probably not wise here

Third, although it feels like grassing. Just tell the owner. You say he's cool. So he probably already knows what she's like, although that does beg the question, why did he make her boss in the first place. I mean ordinarily I'd have reservations about doing such a thing. Because as I say, it feels like grassing, but you can't punch her, and she's effectively grassing you up, for something you haven't even done, so πuck her. You could even consider getting some evidence somehow, covertly record your break or something

Here I think it's usually 4 weeks

Best of luck to you, whatever you decide

And best of luck to you to river

Clearly your feelers are hurt.Please don't over react.Take a breath .Start your new job search now,although hard to do this time of year. Then give your notice after you've found a new gig.You really can't control how she'll respond. If she wants to fire you ,then let it be. A lot of managers are threatened by competent non magmt. people that they work with and they overcompensate .
Then you can leave w/ a clean resume and start over.Reason for leaving ? New job.
"Don't insult the alligator until AFTER you've crossed the river"
Good luck.

hi

Depends on your own situation and the official work situation. Do you have a contract that demands a certain amount of time or not?
Do you need their referral for another job or not? Will it show up on your resume?
Is it really easy to get another job?

Then there's how you feel about it all and your personality. I've once went to my manager, told him what I needed to stay. He had to ask the top, came back to me in an hour. I didn't get it, it was black and white. Fine. Then I'm gone. And I did, in the middle of the workday. Packed up my stuff and left.
My contract allowed me to do that so wasn't an issue.

Question is, if you know it's easy to find something else and you're not happy there, why are you hesitating?