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Topic: Trump
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Thu 01/30/20 12:21 PM
sure...why not?

oh, wait. they already did; and then dismissed it as bs. slaphead







carry on...

oldkid46's photo
Thu 01/30/20 05:00 PM


Either both sides call witnesses or neither. Dems only want a couple of their choosing!! I would like to know a lot more about Burisma and Hunter Biden! The whole Ukrainian story over the years is not very good!!



Trump's daughter works at the White House
Her husband works at the White House
Rudy's son works at the White House
Barr's daughter works at the Treasury
Barr's son-in-law works at the White House
Trump's sons do foreign business
His daughter is getting Chinese patents and Saudi grants

But, sure..let's talk about Biden....

How about we talk about all the politicians and what interests their families might have in government? Not much different than what goes on at your state and local levels. No conflict of interest any where, right????

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Thu 01/30/20 06:46 PM
so you're subscibing to the position that it's not a problem (whether against the law or not), and that we (as american citizens) should just allow it to go unchecked?

oldkid46's photo
Thu 01/30/20 08:02 PM

so you're subscibing to the position that it's not a problem (whether against the law or not), and that we (as american citizens) should just allow it to go unchecked?
NO!!!!! I don't think any elected official or high ranking appointed official should be able to make a decision that benefits him or her or any member of their extended family. Examples: books written by Bolton or Obama. There is a reason why people in the higher reaches of government become very rich and it doesn't have anything to do with their government salary.

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Thu 01/30/20 10:01 PM
so it's just useless whataboutism.

got it.

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/31/20 08:07 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 01/31/20 08:08 AM
I never had a problem with family working in the same field, recommended amongst colleagues. IF they were QUALIFIED, who cares? I only have a problem when they don't really have the qualification, but are given positions anyway ....

Biden's son was chosen, along with many in his field, who were QUALIFIED to do that job, so there is no scandal except the fabricated one.




jaish's photo
Fri 01/31/20 08:26 AM

You are right about Biden's son.

At director level you don't need knowledge of oil & gas or Ukraine

all one need's is lobbing power within White House

Sufficient to hold up the Alaskan pipeline on grounds of environment protection

so that Ukraine oil & gas keeps flowing.
--xxx

Ukraine very poor economy - I can live with this

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/31/20 09:01 AM


You are right about Biden's son.

At director level you don't need knowledge of oil & gas or Ukraine

all one need's is lobbing power within White House

Sufficient to hold up the Alaskan pipeline on grounds of environment protection

so that Ukraine oil & gas keeps flowing.
--xxx

Ukraine very poor economy - I can live with this


or, being detained to consult on best practices, when you are a lawyer who as been on the US Dept of Commerce , you can assist a business in best practices, even if it is oil and gas




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Fri 01/31/20 05:13 PM
I just have to rant

have watch this trial on and off for days ...

this is where they stand now ... oh he did it... but some of the senators say that ok ...we still stand with him... being Republican...
no need for impeachment ... no need for wittiness to be called now ...
we know he abused his power but some say thats ok ... My goodness we are not having a trial to let just wait ... we know he did wrong and abused power and

so many American say... call some wittiness ... these senators act as if they... just show up and say no becouse they want to please the president and have no backlash... is unreal to our constitution ... ok to smear Biden as they did and under their breath woo hoo ...we did good prez ...


I am pretty scared now... there will be no recurse to stop a president to
do nothing & had the chance now... our future is pretty bad ... He says it is great ...sure for him and the higher up once they cut more from medicare... medicaid ...SS... food + many other things that help the people of America ... they our planing and not saying ... becouse he is doing great ...
they say one way to tell is... the low rates... they have lowered and lowered &them still not helping the USA ... I say it now ...

God forbid his corruption and in the eyes of these senators may he not tarnish them or anyone else...becouse of what one mans actions & destruction an bad faith he has brought upon us & has and did & will...many blessing ...

jaish's photo
Fri 01/31/20 07:02 PM


I am pretty scared now... there will be no recurse to stop a president to


The bigger picture drawn by Trey Gowdy is:

Democrats took the wrong cases for impeachment.

1. Russia's involvement --- Mueller Report --- expensive, disastrous failure
2. Stormy Daniels payoff -- Micheal Cohen indicted

3. Biden candidacy --- knocked down as money grubbing - Impeachment proceedings turned to being a cover up for Bidens

--xx

Clearly, Trump cannot be impeached because his daughter works at the White House
mainly because JFK set a precedent with his brother working as Attorney General
---xx

Trump's sons do foreign business
His daughter is getting Chinese patents and Saudi grants


4. Yes, there is no precedent so far and this could have been a basis for impeachment but Vice President Biden already set a precedent!

5. Trump's reversal of US European joint deal with Iran
but even this could not be investigated because of strong Jewish presence in Senate
--xx

World Scenario:
Anybody can see that US economy will thrive till 2024 at least, one of underlying reasons for Brexit

China will continue to be infested with more viruses and balance of payment will be in favor of US by 2024. Rest of Europe and rest of Asia will sink a little more but survive.

The question is will Iran survive till 2024?

In my opinion, Democrat congressmen blundered heavily, effectivly handing over 2020 election to Trump, effectively impeached the American people and world. So instead of hanging in till death they should en-mass resign and give way to younger generation who have energy and while they have energy -- like Cortez

Else the next Republican president after 2024 -- is anybody's guess.


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Sat 02/01/20 01:21 AM



I am pretty scared now... there will be no recurse to stop a president to


The bigger picture drawn by Trey Gowdy is:

Democrats took the wrong cases for impeachment.

1. Russia's involvement --- Mueller Report --- expensive, disastrous failure
2. Stormy Daniels payoff -- Micheal Cohen indicted

3. Biden candidacy --- knocked down as money grubbing - Impeachment proceedings turned to being a cover up for Bidens

--xx

Clearly, Trump cannot be impeached because his daughter works at the White House
mainly because JFK set a precedent with his brother working as Attorney General
---xx

Trump's sons do foreign business
His daughter is getting Chinese patents and Saudi grants


4. Yes, there is no precedent so far and this could have been a basis for impeachment but Vice President Biden already set a precedent!

5. Trump's reversal of US European joint deal with Iran
but even this could not be investigated because of strong Jewish presence in Senate
--xx

World Scenario:
Anybody can see that US economy will thrive till 2024 at least, one of underlying reasons for Brexit

China will continue to be infested with more viruses and balance of payment will be in favor of US by 2024. Rest of Europe and rest of Asia will sink a little more but survive.

The question is will Iran survive till 2024?

In my opinion, Democrat congressmen blundered heavily, effectivly handing over 2020 election to Trump, effectively impeached the American people and world. So instead of hanging in till death they should en-mass resign and give way to younger generation who have energy and while they have energy -- like Cortez

Else the next Republican president after 2024 -- is anybody's guess.


not sure if this is going to be the new power plants their planning

not sure but saw how they are doing it in parts here and there ...
... https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-t-z/usa-nuclear-power.aspx




you could have told me all that before the trial ... laugh I don't think they bumble it ....those around him like you said have to much pull with the some of the big world leaders ...and family comes with those country's ...

just as you spoke of ... but they are still looking to take parts of the healthcare away ....like Preexisting condition's doing away with Obama cares parts of ... to cut costs for that large military budget ... just angry they will be suppressing their own country's... for all of their war follies ...
thanks for making that a little clearer ...

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Sat 02/01/20 07:19 AM
Really, impeachment is always a joke. WE are too PARTY aligned. We do not have too much corruption in politics, we have too much BS party 'allegiance'. Individuals are held hostage to 'group think' instead of individual thought. They are held to more of an allegiance to the party line than to ethics and integrity. It is a joke.

Impeach a candidate? you know the outcome. IF the majority are of that candidate's party, nothing will come of it. That candidate will have their party line back them up and support them and the other party tear them down. All that will REALLY matter are the numbers.

Toodygirl5's photo
Sat 02/01/20 07:23 AM
Hopefully the witch hunt will be over soon and stop wasting unnecessary funds.

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Sat 02/01/20 07:32 AM
It is too good for television. Another problem is that it is publicly viewed, inspiring more bs grandstanding. I wish it was private until it was COMPLETE. And then, and only then, should the transcripts be public. The proceedings should include citations and references to the 'evidence' each congressman/woman brings up or claims.


That way people can SEE for themselves and have to read and retain what the actual issues and responses were. As it is, there is a bunch of dramatic nonsense, in my opinion, and not just this impeachment, the last one too. Republicans will never vote against a Republican president any more than Democrats will vote against a Democratic President. The only non-hyperbolic and TRUE thing Trump has said is that he can shoot someone in times square and his supporters would not bat an eye to excuse or ignore or justify it.

I am just hoping at best that this election will boot his butt out the door. AS unlikely as it is (most presidents for decades have been two termers), I will continue to hope someone with more integrity, ethics, humility, maturity, experience, and actual interest in the public will campaign their way to replacing him.

mysticalview21's photo
Sat 02/01/20 07:52 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sat 02/01/20 07:53 AM

It is too good for television. Another problem is that it is publicly viewed, inspiring more bs grandstanding. I wish it was private until it was COMPLETE. And then, and only then, should the transcripts be public. The proceedings should include citations and references to the 'evidence' each congressman/woman brings up or claims.


That way people can SEE for themselves and have to read and retain what the actual issues and responses were. As it is, there is a bunch of dramatic nonsense, in my opinion, and not just this impeachment, the last one too. Republicans will never vote against a Republican president any more than Democrats will vote against a Democratic President. The only non-hyperbolic and TRUE thing Trump has said is that he can shoot someone in times square and his supporters would not bat an eye to excuse or ignore or justify it.

I am just hoping at best that this election will boot his butt out the door. AS unlikely as it is (most presidents for decades have been two termers), I will continue to hope someone with more integrity, ethics, humility, maturity, experience, and actual interest in the public will campaign their way to replacing him.



:thumbsup: but I believe the corruption is to much for the United States

an this is all condoned now and expected ... & this did not help for the truth ...



https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/31/trump-impeachment-senators-donor-062084

jaish's photo
Sat 02/01/20 08:18 AM


:thumbsup:

Trump's coming to India this month !!

He's a polite guy,

Shakes hands first, then the trade war

mad


msharmony's photo
Sat 02/01/20 08:24 AM
He's a fake blowfish, but good luck to India.

I_love_bluegrass's photo
Sat 02/01/20 10:43 AM

Hopefully the witch hunt will be over soon and stop wasting unnecessary funds.


I'd rather they "stop wasting unnecessary funds" on useless wars...and actually do something to help the average American citizen..not the wealthy...

mysticalview21's photo
Sat 02/01/20 03:49 PM
:thumbsup: agree ... + use some of the military aid for the people in the United states ... sure is tuff paying off country's for killings & peace...

+ heard his tax cuts for the rich... will go on for many yrs to come ...

I just can't believe what he did is not impeachable ...

saying sure was wrong but can't justify it as impeachable ... slaphead

then leaking the swizzle blower like they did ...


then I heard this meeting took place a few people in his office ...
to go after Biden in March ... and one was his lawyers...
that was at that table testifying for him ...


listening to someone today ... I came up with a new book title ...

anyone is free to use it ...




A or The dictator with no democracy ...

this is the new norm ...





and he is going after Biden an now he will use this to the max for himself ...got what he wanted ...

sick









Buford's photo
Sun 02/02/20 12:00 PM
That is the most precise explanation of that dimwit that I've read so far. Great job!

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