What interests me is why dont anybody or the law acknowledges that females entice us at work place, or any other public places by revealing their bodies wearing those ridiculously short dresses? Then before you know it, you are fired or charged for sexual harasssment

yes, let them all wear burka's right?

There was a time that businesses insisted on dress codes for their employees both male and female but, with certain exceptions, that was fifty or sixty years ago. We should respect other peoples autonomy and not leer, grab or otherwise harass people regardless of what they are wearing, especially in a work environment.

I got slapped once wears ago, and I still have no idea why or what for.
Harassment for mysterious reasons.

I wish a nice woman would sexually harass me, I'll give in and submit for sure.
And if more than one harassed me, I think I could bear the pain and suffering for a while.

So basically you are blaming women for men lacking the ability to conduct themselves in a mature way and think with the right head?

Interesting!

There was a time in the US where that would have been the case, fortunately the law here recognizes that blaming another for poor behavior has no validity. Each person, both male and female is accountable for their own actions. There are cases where self defense holds up in the court of law, but "she dressed provocatively" no longer works because it does not threaten ones life when a women to wear a short dress.

It does when you have to look, and then trip over or crash.

Yes HAVE TO look. Even for a quick glimpse.

It's hard wired into guys to look for potential genetic partners, (regardless of relationship status), assess their suitability, pros and cons, and likelihood of engagement, and just appreciate the female form, or part thereof.
The blind, and gays are the exceptions.

Reminds me of something I read recently. " She's not dressed like a slut, you're just thinking like a rapist."

But it's still your fault notbeold... You can't hold the woman, you just have to look at, accountable for your hard wiring.... blame human nature and take responsibility for that.

If some dude was jogging down the street, muscles bulging and dripping in sweat ... the judge is not going to arrest that man if I end up running into a tree just because I can't seem to take my eyes off him.

No I am not blaming anybody. Why the need for twisting words? I simply stated whatis seen worldwide.
Read and understand, my dear before giving comment

That's it then, Burkas for men and women, because if we can't avert our eyes, best to have nothing to look at. Just wobbly black letter boxes.
I fear a black cloth fetish epidemic.

Well dear... I commented on what my interpretation of what you wrote was.

You stated why don't anyone or the law acknowledge women entice men by wearing ridiculously short dresses. To me that is saying women should be held accountable for men sexually harassing them because of the way they dress.

If my interpretation is incorrect, please clarify and we can continue this discussion.

Yep, problem solved!

I cant blame you. Sorry it gave that interpretation. What I am trying to say is not defending males. But a while ago, this wasnt any problem because females dont show too much flesh(especially the seducing areas). Now when the clothes are getting smaller BY THE MINUTE the harassment also got BIGGER on us. That seems like unfair meaning its like you are fired from your job coz somebody...

The real problem is what is considered sexual harassment! When someone can be accused because of only looking or looking and commenting, then there is a real problem with our expectations. You can wear anything you want and expect not to be touched. You cannot wear anything you want and expect no one is going to look or make a comment to you or about you.

WRONG! That's like saying if a person looks different because of a disability, you have the right to comment to them. If a woman has unusually large breasts, you can say something to her? I THINK NOT. Self Control is necessary in this world! If ya got none, stay home.

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If you want to Chit Chat there are plenty threads with no Topic.

With that said please remain on Topic.

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Kristi

You hit the nail on the head!!!

Okay, I believe I understand more what you're saying. Thanks for clarifying.

I get your correlation with the increase of sexual harassment accusations towards men with the increase of clothing or lack there of that women choose to wear, but I don't believe that is the cause of the increase.

Years ago even when women wore clothing that fully covered their bodies men made suggestive remarks and acted in a way that is now perceived as sexual harassment. I believe it's more to do with it being more acceptable now that women speak up. Thanks to the laws we have, more are feeling comfortable to speak up as well. In the past women who spoke up were treated poorly and/or fired for causing a raucous. That threat is no longer there.

I do agree that at times it is unfair because they are unfairly accused. There are women who use that as leverage in an inappropriate way and that's not right or fair to the men who lose their jobs because of it.

Am I closer to what you're trying to discuss here?

Why don't we all just go naked? Dress code problem solved.