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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 07:59 AM
Is kind of like the concept of 3 dimensionalism. We perceive everything in 3 dimensions, however.... (en it is a learned thing kind of like when people thought the world was flat)... so go outside yourself en realize there are more than 3 dimensions. Can now be proven however existed before it could be proven. Have to think some differently than before to know beyond. EN...as I said before...there is intuitiveness. Quantum en metaphysical science only sets out to prove what is already there. but does that address the original question?

chuck366 Joined Tue 10/16/07 Posts: 4666	Fri 01/04/08 07:59 AM
"why" something happened, then it's a pseudo-science because it's ... itself is merely a concept used to mask the fact that there is no explanation for the original question

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 07:59 AM
It answers it.

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:01 AM
Like I said...en we humans are sooooo egotistical.... there will always be things we have not proven but still exist. We cannot seem to stand that fact or take some grace by faith. That is the problem with our culture today.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:01 AM
faith cannot be "rationalized" and "reasoned" at times ,thats why its faith. So the original question to me seems like some sort of inane heathoness bantor inane heathoness bantor kind of describes what the faithful does

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:02 AM
No matter the religion... en I DO believe religion IS philosophies.

chuck366 Joined Tue 10/16/07 Posts: 4666	Fri 01/04/08 08:03 AM
faith cannot be "rationalized" and "reasoned" at times ,thats why its faith. So the original question to me seems like some sort of inane heathoness bantor inane heathoness bantor kind of describes what the faithful does some faithful do, yes.

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:03 AM
En if you find me the same philosophies in a single religion by all members...let me know because you will have witness a pheonomenon of today that I have not.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:04 AM
I agree. I also think there is blind faith. The literal blind faith of a sheep follower. I DO have a little problem with that. faith is used so one doesn't have to rationalize the belief

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:04 AM
Does not make them unfaithful....or faithful for that matter. That is why churches split. There is an expectation that cannot be.

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Fri 01/04/08 08:04 AM
faith cannot be "rationalized" and "reasoned" at times ,thats why its faith. So the original question to me seems like some sort of inane heathoness bantor inane heathoness bantor kind of describes what the faithful does word

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:06 AM
You cannot always rationalize any belief. Some times you have intuition en other things that meld into that are not always explainably rationalized to you. Faith is hmmmm hope. Hope is connected with the idea of good en evil. THAT is a concrete idea....there IS GOOD EN EVIL.

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:07 AM
Many elements go into your philosophy of life...what is religion to you. What is your faith en why? Why do you believe the way you do? Many of the questions are answer by your own philosophies of how things work, what is.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:07 AM
it is the believers of the particular belief that claim that religious things as true and claim they need nothing but to utter the word faith and it becomes truth ...this is deceptive and/or or delusional Assuming that belief is deceptive or delusional, it is only deceptive or delusional to the person who holds the belief. Since you have no say whatsoever in what another believes, that's not your concern. do you mean like when it wasn't anyones concern when the church were torturing and murdering heretics Yes, exactly. They were fully justified in doing that. Heretics should be tortured and murdered. ..er...ok...right ...maybe you need to talk to chuck 366 he thinks he's Dr. Phil

Passiespel Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 1219	Fri 01/04/08 08:09 AM
That is to be respected. Everyone has the right. The problem comes with the philosophies are for not good. Hence the issue with the phrase... Peace en good will to all men... OR is it Peace to all men of good will.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:10 AM
Ok...define heretic. LOL. Your definition en my definitiion may very well be different en it is not the church that will dictate my thought on that. lesson in debating 101..once someone ask you to define words then you have them by the balls

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Fri 01/04/08 08:11 AM
..er...ok...right ...maybe you need to talk to chuck 366 he thinks he's Dr. Phil Watch out for that big Billy Goat Gruff, he's a tough one.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:11 AM
Not all things have to be provEN to be. Hmmm? well maybe just the ones that cause holy wars

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:13 AM
"why" something happened, then it's a pseudo-science because it's ... itself is merely a concept used to mask the fact that there is no explanation for the original question chuck..why you hate answering the original question and staying on topic

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 01/04/08 08:15 AM
En if you find me the same philosophies in a single religion by all members...let me know because you will have witness a pheonomenon of today that I have not. well all philosophers worth their salt no matter the religion will all agree that it's all just a belief