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| Topic: Who are you rooting for in 2020? | |
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Such long answers. Mine is short. TRUMP I don't see one dem running that I'd even consider worthy. Sanders wants to increase social security payments. Since he's a communist, I know he's lying about that happening. One good, ten bads makes him undesirable. |
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Such long answers. Mine is short. TRUMP Short answers are usually a good sign of a closed mind. Ever try to have a conversation with someone who simply answers using 1-word responses? Pretty boring. Short answers are all that the Majority of Democrats can understand. |
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Such long answers. Mine is short. TRUMP Long answers, are indicative of people trying to convince themselves of something they know isn't true. Or, they're simply incapable of making a point. Trump in 2020! |
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Trump 2020
Maybe the Best if he runs again. Unless the demos can come up with a better candidate than Hillary . |
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Personally I'd like to see another
Ross Perot run ( he's too old), but someone like him. He wanted to run the country like a business ( make $ instead of lose $). He was an outsider and really stirred up interest in a third party, but unfortunately we will never convince the majority of people to split from being Democrat or Republican. There is nothing saying Trump will even run in 2020, or have the Republican endorsement. The Republicans really need to pull a rabbit out of their hat and come up with a good candidate, or just make sure the Democratic candidate really sucks. Four of the 45 Presidents have been shot and killed in office, a few more have been shot or shot at while in office. Not very good odds if you think about it, would you be willing to take the chance? 5 of them had no political experience before being elected, to me this would not be an issue, sick of the sellouts we got in Washington, but money talks so I really don't see a way to change that. |
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msharmony
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Sat 03/09/19 03:31 PM
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Personally I'd like to see another Ross Perot run ( he's too old), but someone like him. He wanted to run the country like a business ( make $ instead of lose $). He was an outsider and really stirred up interest in a third party, but unfortunately we will never convince the majority of people to split from being Democrat or Republican. There is nothing saying Trump will even run in 2020, or have the Republican endorsement. The Republicans really need to pull a rabbit out of their hat and come up with a good candidate, or just make sure the Democratic candidate really sucks. Four of the 45 Presidents have been shot and killed in office, a few more have been shot or shot at while in office. Not very good odds if you think about it, would you be willing to take the chance? 5 of them had no political experience before being elected, to me this would not be an issue, sick of the sellouts we got in Washington, but money talks so I really don't see a way to change that. Adams served as VP Jefferson as governor, sec of state, and VP Madison as congressman and sec of state Monroe as senator and governor Adams as senator and secretary of state Jackson was senator and governor Van Buren was governor and VP Harrison, a senator Tyler, congressman, a senator and VP Polk, a congressman and governor Zach Taylor was a soldier ... ONE Fillmore, congressman and VP Pierce, congressman and senator Buchanan, congressman, senator, secretary of state Lincoln, a congressman Johnson, congressman, senator, governor, VP Grant was an Army general ... TWO Hayes was congressman and governor Garfield, congressman Arthur, VP Cleveland, Mayor Harrison, Senator McKinley, congressman and governor Roosevelt, governor and VP Taft, justice of supreme court, sec of war ... is this THREE? woodrow wilson, governor Harding was a senator Coolidge, governor and VP Hoover, sec of commerce ... is this FOUR? Roosevelt, governor Truman, senator and vP Eisenhower, army chief of staff ... is this FIVE? Kennedy, congressman and senator Johnson, congressman, senator, VP Nixon, congressman, senator, VP Ford, congressman and VP Carter, governor Reagan, governor GHW Bush, congressman, ambassador, VP Clinton, governor GW Bush, governor OBama, state senator and US senator As far as historically, all presidents have worked within the three branches of the government infrastructure, which I think is an important experience to gain before holding the TOP government office, OR they have served in the military, which as Commander in Chief, is the only experience in lieu of the government that I feel is worthy of POTUS. I think the US is meant to be run as a 'not for profit', not to profit, but to pursue constitutional objectives and maintain the country. I think, like in any top job of any industry, it is not desirable that someone START gaining experience in the top position, ahead of others who have already started. I think 4 out of 45 is 8 percent, which leaves 92 percent chance of not getting killed, is not bad odds. All presidents have been 65 or under when elected, EXCEPT Harrison, Reagan, and Trump, Harrison died of illness in office. Reagan was later announced to have Alzheimers, though not revealed until his 80s, I believe he was beginning to suffer from in office. And Trump seems to have plenty of the signs of senility, regression to childlike thinking and acting. I do hope we get a more 'vibrant' and healthy candidate in office(mentally, physically and emotionally). I don't care so much about the 'either/or' politics for candidates. Even though we have two main parties, we have a large SPECTRUM of individual political ideas and beliefs. The candidates, though registered under a political label, are individuals first. And I care about what experience and education and ideas the Individual has. I care whether there is past indicator of their 'concerns' for fellow Americans. I care about their experience with and knowledge of global affairs and with the obstacles and concerns of 'average' AND struggling citizens, not just the elite. Knowledge of/experience with the constitution and military are certainly also a plus. I really hope we get another OBama or Kennedy(minus the assassination). I wonder what can be accomplished during a time when we are NOT already in economic downfall. I also hope we get someone who can lead with unifying language and behavior. |
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Major difference in politicians since the early days of the country. A Congressman was a part time job after the harvest was done and before spring planting. Most all actually worked for their living instead of being permanent politicians. This, to me, is the biggest downfall with all politicians today; that lack of real life work experience!! Another Kennedy I probably could support, another Obama, no way in hell!
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Major difference in politicians since the early days of the country. A Congressman was a part time job after the harvest was done and before spring planting. Most all actually worked for their living instead of being permanent politicians. This, to me, is the biggest downfall with all politicians today; that lack of real life work experience!! Another Kennedy I probably could support, another Obama, no way in hell! Im not sure much has changed. Congressmen, then and now, did not necessarily and do not necessarily work strictly 40 hour weeks, yet are and were paid in the top percentile of US income. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/5996?start_page=19 There are many sources to look up the concurring income for the average american during these times. Politicians have been paid much more than others are for working for centuries. I am not sure what is the average length of years congressman spent since the founding till now, and dont feel like researching it right now. But as far as POTUS, I don't believe any continued political service once they achieved that office. I feel we are a big enough population for politician to rightfully be a full time job with full time pay, not to mention the visibility of politicians being on a different level than the founders in terms of other options or jobs being served concurrently. |
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Taft was solicitor general, circuit court judge, and governor of the Philippines. He would have rather have been a supreme court justice, instead of president.
Eisenhour, had some, being a military advisor to the Philippines. What he actually did there might have had given him some political experience. Zachary Taylor, no. Heck, he didn't even vote before he became president. Another little curious thing- his second daughter was married to Jefferson Davis for a time. (She died three months after they were married) |
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Major difference in politicians since the early days of the country. A Congressman was a part time job after the harvest was done and before spring planting. Most all actually worked for their living instead of being permanent politicians. This, to me, is the biggest downfall with all politicians today; that lack of real life work experience!! Another Kennedy I probably could support, another Obama, no way in hell! Im not sure much has changed. Congressmen, then and now, did not necessarily and do not necessarily work strictly 40 hour weeks, yet are and were paid in the top percentile of US income. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/5996?start_page=19 There are many sources to look up the concurring income for the average american during these times. Politicians have been paid much more than others are for working for centuries. I am not sure what is the average length of years congressman spent since the founding till now, and dont feel like researching it right now. But as far as POTUS, I don't believe any continued political service once they achieved that office. I feel we are a big enough population for politician to rightfully be a full time job with full time pay, not to mention the visibility of politicians being on a different level than the founders in terms of other options or jobs being served concurrently. |
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America!!! And an honest politician!! Lol
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Taft was solicitor general, circuit court judge, and governor of the Philippines. He would have rather have been a supreme court justice, instead of president. Eisenhour, had some, being a military advisor to the Philippines. What he actually did there might have had given him some political experience. Zachary Taylor, no. Heck, he didn't even vote before he became president. Another little curious thing- his second daughter was married to Jefferson Davis for a time. (She died three months after they were married) Taft finally achieved his dream of being appointed chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court in 1921, becoming the only person to have served both as a chief justice and president. Taft died in Washington, D.C., on March 8, 1930. http://www.biography.com/people/william-howard-taft-9501184 Zachary Taylor (1784-1850) served in the army for some four decades, commanding troops in the War of 1812, the Black Hawk War (1832) and the second of the Seminole Wars (1835-1842). He became a full-fledged war hero through his service in the Mexican War, which broke out in 1846 after the U.S. annexation of Texas. http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/zachary-taylor Eisenhour's military career can be read about here. it is too long to post http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/dwight-d-eisenhower |
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Major difference in politicians since the early days of the country. A Congressman was a part time job after the harvest was done and before spring planting. Most all actually worked for their living instead of being permanent politicians. This, to me, is the biggest downfall with all politicians today; that lack of real life work experience!! Another Kennedy I probably could support, another Obama, no way in hell! Im not sure much has changed. Congressmen, then and now, did not necessarily and do not necessarily work strictly 40 hour weeks, yet are and were paid in the top percentile of US income. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/5996?start_page=19 There are many sources to look up the concurring income for the average american during these times. Politicians have been paid much more than others are for working for centuries. I am not sure what is the average length of years congressman spent since the founding till now, and dont feel like researching it right now. But as far as POTUS, I don't believe any continued political service once they achieved that office. I feel we are a big enough population for politician to rightfully be a full time job with full time pay, not to mention the visibility of politicians being on a different level than the founders in terms of other options or jobs being served concurrently. I think politicians have more of a clue how legislation works than business con men, and I think business men who truly know how to implement things dont end up with so many bankruptcies or appointing so many just to later have them leave or be dismissed. But that's just my opinion. |
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Major difference in politicians since the early days of the country. A Congressman was a part time job after the harvest was done and before spring planting. Most all actually worked for their living instead of being permanent politicians. This, to me, is the biggest downfall with all politicians today; that lack of real life work experience!! Another Kennedy I probably could support, another Obama, no way in hell! Im not sure much has changed. Congressmen, then and now, did not necessarily and do not necessarily work strictly 40 hour weeks, yet are and were paid in the top percentile of US income. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/5996?start_page=19 There are many sources to look up the concurring income for the average american during these times. Politicians have been paid much more than others are for working for centuries. I am not sure what is the average length of years congressman spent since the founding till now, and dont feel like researching it right now. But as far as POTUS, I don't believe any continued political service once they achieved that office. I feel we are a big enough population for politician to rightfully be a full time job with full time pay, not to mention the visibility of politicians being on a different level than the founders in terms of other options or jobs being served concurrently. I think politicians have more of a clue how legislation works than business con men, and I think business men who truly know how to implement things dont end up with so many bankruptcies or appointing so many just to later have them leave or be dismissed. But that's just my opinion. |
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The people but that won't happen yet.
I feel like the last president we had that wasn't a slimey bastard was Jimmy Carter. If voting made a difference it wouldn't be legal. That ought to stir you up for a bit 
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As it stands at the moment, I will vote for and work for the reelection of Trump. The only other person that comes to mind would be Jamie Dimon from JP Morgan. I would expect him to be a conservative democrat if he ever decided to be a fool and enter politics. Most high quality people have more sense than to have their lives ruined by entering politics! The most conservative Democrat is Senator Webb. |
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I'll never vote for a democrat. You seriously couldn't vote for Webb? |
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Who are you guys supporting in 2020 or who would you like to see run? I'll be honest, someone who I always wanted to see run was Elizabeth Dole. I admired what she did as Sec of Commerce under Reagan, and always thought that they had the wrong Dole running in 1996, because "Elizabeth, don't call me Liddy" would have had a better shot at challenging Clinton. Unfortunately, Mrs Dole's reputation took a bad hack after 9/11/2001, when folks found out the Red Cross under her direction had been doing some bait-and-switch with donations. It pretty much ended her political career. Having seen her speak in 2000, she had the charisma and knowledge to have earned my vote. As far as 2020, I don't think my candidate has announced yet. I certainly don't want another demagogue egotist liar, and though Pence will be the incumbent by then, I wonder if Pence can pull off an election. GLAD Hillary is not trying it again, could not stand the noise. I am laughing at Bill Weld trying for the 3rd party nomination. Remember too, that this early in the game, the early frontrunners usually don't make it (Anybody remember when Howard Dean was on the cover of Time?) Elizabeth Warren might do well in NH next spring (just because she is from a neighboring state), but I think her campaign will be over by Super Tuesday. Would not mind seeing Claire Underwood in the race... An Underwood ticket is one I could get behind. Tom Kirkman? Why do I get the feeling that we will need an event such as the one that made Tom Kirkman famous to truly purge the filth in DC? It doesn't make a difference the candidate, the Orange one is never going to yield the spotlight, and will proclaim himself Emperor,like his best friend Kim did. Michael Cohan has told us, the Cheeto will not go quietly... and the worst part is, he will still have the brainless goons supporting his right to urinate on the Constitution yet again when it happens I heard or read, and I honestly don't remember the source so question the validity, that the RNC is setting a new standard that no one run against Trump in his re election bid. Again, I am not sure where I read it. I remember it didn't shock me, but did concern me. Actually Governor Kasich is gearing up for a primary run. He was just with all the other Primary candidates at a major event last week. Rumor is he will be jumping in soon. |
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I like that Booker ticks the boxes for education and experience and age range. But I still have to wait to see who the actual lead candidates will be and what they have to say when thinking and speaking for themselves. Booker the man who committed sexual assault then wrote about it saying it was ok because it was a teachable moment? |
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I am just gonna buy a farm......and build a wall to protect it.
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