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Topic: Define "Lady"
Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 01/14/19 12:06 PM
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Stu's photo
Mon 01/14/19 12:10 PM

JustBeHonest's photo
Mon 01/14/19 12:21 PM






Originally, the word Lady was used to describe a woman who was a member of aristocracy. She wasn't employed because her father or her husband paid for all of her needs and wants.

I am sick and tired of hearing/reading non-aristocrat women complain that single men won't initiate a date or completely pay for a date or provide transport for a date or etc, etc.

Gender equality means that both genders have the same responsibilities as well as the same rights. Thus, single men and single women share the responsibility of initiating a date or paying for a date or providing transport for a date or etc, etc.

Single women of the 21st Century aren't helpless damsels.



:thumbsup:


They want to have the Equality of today while STILL enjoying the benefits of times past... Sorry, sweetcheeks, can't have your cake and eat it too.



Says who? We can have whatever we want! :wink:


You can delude yourself in thinking that but reality is far more different than anyone's wishes.


I’m not deluding myself.
I changed my attitude in life and I have exactly what I want. I got it all!

Stu's photo
Mon 01/14/19 12:23 PM







Originally, the word Lady was used to describe a woman who was a member of aristocracy. She wasn't employed because her father or her husband paid for all of her needs and wants.

I am sick and tired of hearing/reading non-aristocrat women complain that single men won't initiate a date or completely pay for a date or provide transport for a date or etc, etc.

Gender equality means that both genders have the same responsibilities as well as the same rights. Thus, single men and single women share the responsibility of initiating a date or paying for a date or providing transport for a date or etc, etc.

Single women of the 21st Century aren't helpless damsels.



:thumbsup:


They want to have the Equality of today while STILL enjoying the benefits of times past... Sorry, sweetcheeks, can't have your cake and eat it too.



Says who? We can have whatever we want! :wink:


You can delude yourself in thinking that but reality is far more different than anyone's wishes.


I’m not deluding myself.
I changed my attitude in life and I have exactly what I want. I got it all!


Whooo hoooo!!

happy

Rooster35's photo
Mon 01/14/19 12:24 PM







Originally, the word Lady was used to describe a woman who was a member of aristocracy. She wasn't employed because her father or her husband paid for all of her needs and wants.

I am sick and tired of hearing/reading non-aristocrat women complain that single men won't initiate a date or completely pay for a date or provide transport for a date or etc, etc.

Gender equality means that both genders have the same responsibilities as well as the same rights. Thus, single men and single women share the responsibility of initiating a date or paying for a date or providing transport for a date or etc, etc.

Single women of the 21st Century aren't helpless damsels.



:thumbsup:


They want to have the Equality of today while STILL enjoying the benefits of times past... Sorry, sweetcheeks, can't have your cake and eat it too.



Says who? We can have whatever we want! :wink:


You can delude yourself in thinking that but reality is far more different than anyone's wishes.


I’m not deluding myself.
I changed my attitude in life and I have exactly what I want. I got it all!


Good for you ! :thumbsup:

Itybit's photo
Mon 01/14/19 01:38 PM
Edited by Itybit on Mon 01/14/19 01:39 PM
I think most men would be surprised to find that in the U.S. only 18% of women consider themselves a feminist and the percentage is even lower in the UK, I believe it is around 7%, yet men act as though we are all burning our bra's and screaming for your balls.

Are you seriously against equal pay for equal work?

Are you against the woman's right to vote?

Against a woman's right to reproductive choices (taking birth control)?

A woman having a bank account?

being able to serve on jury duty?

being able to attend an ivy league college?

being a lawyer?

These are the type of things women the movement gained for women and things I believe most women wanted and have a right to. Most women in today's world aren't the crazy feminist men seem to constantly rage against.

I really don't understand the anger and bitterness from some of the men in this thread.


As far as clothing and behavior Oldkid, I would hope you would get to know someone enough and avoid asking someone out who has the potential to behave that way. Also as adults I believe most of us know the appropriate dress attire to wear depending on the atmosphere we are going to be in.

Edit: typo

oldkid46's photo
Mon 01/14/19 02:09 PM

I think most men would be surprised to find that in the U.S. only 18% of women consider themselves a feminist and the percentage is even lower in the UK, I believe it is around 7%, yet men act as though we are all burning our bra's and screaming for your balls.

Are you seriously against equal pay for equal work?

Are you against the woman's right to vote?

Against a woman's right to reproductive choices (taking birth control)?

A woman having a bank account?

being able to serve on jury duty?

being able to attend an ivy league college?

being a lawyer?

These are the type of things women the movement gained for women and things I believe most women wanted and have a right to. Most women in today's world aren't the crazy feminist men seem to constantly rage against.

I really don't understand the anger and bitterness from some of the men in this thread.


As far as clothing and behavior Oldkid, I would hope you would get to know someone enough and avoid asking someone out who has the potential to behave that way. Also as adults I believe most of us know the appropriate dress attire to wear depending on the atmosphere we are going to be in.

Edit: typo
I have a couple problems with what you have listed:
1. I have yet to find a clear, understandable definition of "equal" work. There are many characteristics that could make work or parts of work equal. Just saying "equal pay for equal work" is saying nothing.
2. Reproductive choices - If a woman gets pregnant either by mistake or her intention, she is able to force a man to support the child even if he wants to terminate the pregnancy. On the other hand, if she wants to terminate the pregnancy, he has no say. In neither case does a man have any control over the outcome of the pregnancy or the raising of the child. This is not right.
3. Women receiving preferential job hiring because they are a "minority". Worst thing that ever happened and set women's equality back at least 20 years.

I personally have no problem with equality! I believe any reference or bias based on gender should have been abolished many years ago but it is still common and probably won't be totally resolved for several more generations. Our legal system still grants women privileges that are inappropriate and should be illegal.

Rooster35's photo
Tue 01/15/19 02:11 AM


I think most men would be surprised to find that in the U.S. only 18% of women consider themselves a feminist and the percentage is even lower in the UK, I believe it is around 7%, yet men act as though we are all burning our bra's and screaming for your balls.

Are you seriously against equal pay for equal work?

Are you against the woman's right to vote?

Against a woman's right to reproductive choices (taking birth control)?

A woman having a bank account?

being able to serve on jury duty?

being able to attend an ivy league college?

being a lawyer?

These are the type of things women the movement gained for women and things I believe most women wanted and have a right to. Most women in today's world aren't the crazy feminist men seem to constantly rage against.

I really don't understand the anger and bitterness from some of the men in this thread.


As far as clothing and behavior Oldkid, I would hope you would get to know someone enough and avoid asking someone out who has the potential to behave that way. Also as adults I believe most of us know the appropriate dress attire to wear depending on the atmosphere we are going to be in.

Edit: typo
I have a couple problems with what you have listed:
1. I have yet to find a clear, understandable definition of "equal" work. There are many characteristics that could make work or parts of work equal. Just saying "equal pay for equal work" is saying nothing.
2. Reproductive choices - If a woman gets pregnant either by mistake or her intention, she is able to force a man to support the child even if he wants to terminate the pregnancy. On the other hand, if she wants to terminate the pregnancy, he has no say. In neither case does a man have any control over the outcome of the pregnancy or the raising of the child. This is not right.
3. Women receiving preferential job hiring because they are a "minority". Worst thing that ever happened and set women's equality back at least 20 years.

I personally have no problem with equality! I believe any reference or bias based on gender should have been abolished many years ago but it is still common and probably won't be totally resolved for several more generations. Our legal system still grants women privileges that are inappropriate and should be illegal.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I_love_bluegrass's photo
Tue 01/15/19 08:02 AM


Our legal system still grants women privileges that are inappropriate and should be illegal.



Specifics?

Do tell....


Also, you said:
"I believe any reference or bias based on gender should have been abolished many years ago but it is still common and probably won't be totally resolved for several more generations."

You DO know that insurance companies will readily pay for those "little blue pills"...but not women's birth conrol pills?

How is THAT not gender bias?

Rooster35's photo
Tue 01/15/19 09:28 AM
Edited by Rooster35 on Tue 01/15/19 09:40 AM

I think most men would be surprised to find that in the U.S. only 18% of women consider themselves a feminist and the percentage is even lower in the UK, I believe it is around 7%, yet men act as though we are all burning our bra's and screaming for your balls.

Not for our balls... For our money and work positions. I'm sure you've heard of the #MeToo witch hunt... Our balls will be for later if we men continue to humor psychopathic women and let them operate without bearing the responsibilities of their actions.


Are you seriously against equal pay for equal work?

"Equal pay for equal work" is a feminist strategy to make you women feel like victims and it's been working wonderfully.


Are you against the woman's right to vote?

Yes.


Against a woman's right to reproductive choices (taking birth control)?

Yes. Without birth control women would think twice about monkey-branching.


A woman having a bank account?

No. She can pay for all her crap herself :joy:


being able to serve on jury duty?

Hell yes. Women don't judge on evidence, only on feelings and their bias against men.


being able to attend an ivy league college?

Why would a woman want to go to college? You women already know everything :joy:


being a lawyer?

OH YES. We have enough feminist lawyers in that inJustice system to put every single man of the world in prison without any evidence at all. That's their specialty.


Most women in today's world aren't the crazy feminist men seem to constantly rage against.

Most women in today's world are crazy feminists who live in denial about not being feminists but once the words come out their mouth, it's feminist rhetoric through and through.


I really don't understand the anger and bitterness from some of the men in this thread.

Not just in this thread. I read it all over the internet.
Maybe it's just "toxic masculinity" speaking pitchfork
Or we men have wigged out and decided to be wary of perfectly innocent creatures.
Or maybe many men feel that their children have been stolen by feminist lawyers and cucked judges.
Or maybe many sons of men fell they we're cheated out of relationships with their dads thanks to a misandrist inJustice system where men are guilty until proven innocent.
The reasons are as many as there are men and sons of men who have been violated by feminists in high places while other women stood there and watched it all happen without so much of a peep in defense of the innocent for as long as it benefitted them.

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oldkid46's photo
Tue 01/15/19 09:37 AM



Our legal system still grants women privileges that are inappropriate and should be illegal.



Specifics?

Do tell....


Also, you said:
"I believe any reference or bias based on gender should have been abolished many years ago but it is still common and probably won't be totally resolved for several more generations."

You DO know that insurance companies will readily pay for those "little blue pills"...but not women's birth conrol pills?

How is THAT not gender bias?
1. Child custody - a woman is assumed to be better to have physical custody. The default custody position should be shared custody unless one parent is unfit.
2. The prosecution and penalty for solicitation vs prostitution.
3. The difference between sentences for men vs women in underage sex cases.
4. In some courts, it is easier for a woman to claim she did something wrong under emotional stress and therefore deserves a lighter sentence. She is considered to be more susceptible to an emotional response than men.
.
I also believe you are wrong on those little blue pills. Only if medically necessary for other health conditions same as birth control meds. I also believe the ACA now requires insurance companies to pay for birth control in most instances.

Rooster35's photo
Tue 01/15/19 09:44 AM
Edited by Rooster35 on Tue 01/15/19 10:07 AM
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I_love_bluegrass's photo
Tue 01/15/19 09:53 AM




Our legal system still grants women privileges that are inappropriate and should be illegal.



Specifics?

Do tell....


Also, you said:
"I believe any reference or bias based on gender should have been abolished many years ago but it is still common and probably won't be totally resolved for several more generations."

You DO know that insurance companies will readily pay for those "little blue pills"...but not women's birth conrol pills?

How is THAT not gender bias?
1. Child custody - a woman is assumed to be better to have physical custody. The default custody position should be shared custody unless one parent is unfit.
2. The prosecution and penalty for solicitation vs prostitution.
3. The difference between sentences for men vs women in underage sex cases.
4. In some courts, it is easier for a woman to claim she did something wrong under emotional stress and therefore deserves a lighter sentence. She is considered to be more susceptible to an emotional response than men.
.
I also believe you are wrong on those little blue pills. Only if medically necessary for other health conditions same as birth control meds. I also believe the ACA now requires insurance companies to pay for birth control in most instances.


Not exactly:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/13/15966432/senate-revised-health-bill-birth-control

Also, I agree with you about custody.
*Primary* custody should go to the most stable, better parent...be it the mom or dad.
Visitation should be allowed freely, unless one has an alcohol/ drug problem, or has exhibited abuse (there IS such a thing as emotion/ mental abuse..not *all* abuse leaves physical marlks...I *know* from personal experience)

Regarding number 3...
IF men had always been allowed to express feelings, vulnerabilty, or weren't less open to admitting they might have a mental health issue (depression, bi polar, whatever), maybe the field in that regard would be level...
Men can be abused, men can have mental issues, men can be depressed, and it is time we as a society quit expecting them to be unemotional, stoic rocks...



Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 01/15/19 10:37 AM
I define "Lady" as a woman that uses/maintains 'composure' well.
I define a "Gentleman" as a man that uses/maintains 'composure' well.

oldkid46's photo
Tue 01/15/19 10:49 AM





Our legal system still grants women privileges that are inappropriate and should be illegal.



Specifics?

Do tell....


Also, you said:
"I believe any reference or bias based on gender should have been abolished many years ago but it is still common and probably won't be totally resolved for several more generations."

You DO know that insurance companies will readily pay for those "little blue pills"...but not women's birth conrol pills?

How is THAT not gender bias?
1. Child custody - a woman is assumed to be better to have physical custody. The default custody position should be shared custody unless one parent is unfit.
2. The prosecution and penalty for solicitation vs prostitution.
3. The difference between sentences for men vs women in underage sex cases.
4. In some courts, it is easier for a woman to claim she did something wrong under emotional stress and therefore deserves a lighter sentence. She is considered to be more susceptible to an emotional response than men.
.
I also believe you are wrong on those little blue pills. Only if medically necessary for other health conditions same as birth control meds. I also believe the ACA now requires insurance companies to pay for birth control in most instances.


Not exactly:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/13/15966432/senate-revised-health-bill-birth-control

Also, I agree with you about custody.
*Primary* custody should go to the most stable, better parent...be it the mom or dad.
Visitation should be allowed freely, unless one has an alcohol/ drug problem, or has exhibited abuse (there IS such a thing as emotion/ mental abuse..not *all* abuse leaves physical marlks...I *know* from personal experience)

Regarding number 3...
IF men had always been allowed to express feelings, vulnerabilty, or weren't less open to admitting they might have a mental health issue (depression, bi polar, whatever), maybe the field in that regard would be level...
Men can be abused, men can have mental issues, men can be depressed, and it is time we as a society quit expecting them to be unemotional, stoic rocks...



I believe the Senate bill you listed failed. If also would have not removed birth control coverage, it basically allowed insurance companies to offer other plans for individuals to purchase that did not include birth control. Why would a man or a post menopausal woman need birth control coverage? The only reason I can see for requiring that coverage is to subsidize the cost of insurance for those who do need it.

There should be no differences in a criminal sentence irregardless of mental health conditions unless someone is legally deemed to be mentally incompetent.

I'm glad you recognize that men can be abused and often are especially emotional abuse.

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