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Chaz, don't fight with fungus, he's always right, just ask him he will tell you....and don't offer him a dictionary...he won't read it anyway. hey Lily Munster welcome back .. |
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Chaz, don't fight with fungus, he's always right, just ask him he will tell you....and don't offer him a dictionary...he won't read it anyway. hey Lily Munster welcome back .. I love lily munster. |
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And this is the one I was looking for.
funches at his best, like always 
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So what's your definition of "faith"? faith like delusion doesn't exist pass the mind ..faith is the realization of the lack of Free Will ..faith is to place oneself into the role of God that because they wish something to be then so be it EEK... Faith - I know that the decision I make is the right one... I have faith that no matter the path I take god will accept my new reality and place before my new path more choices. There are no wrong paths. |
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So what's your definition of "faith"? faith like delusion doesn't exist pass the mind ..faith is the realization of the lack of Free Will ..faith is to place oneself into the role of God that because they wish something to be then so be it EEK... Faith - I know that the decision I make is the right one... I have faith that no matter the path I take god will accept my new reality and place before my new path more choices. There are no wrong paths. "AdventureBegins" if you knew your decision was the right one.... then why would you need faith |
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Saved by Faith & Grace.....nuff said..
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So what's your definition of "faith"? faith like delusion doesn't exist pass the mind ..faith is the realization of the lack of Free Will ..faith is to place oneself into the role of God that because they wish something to be then so be it EEK... Faith - I know that the decision I make is the right one... I have faith that no matter the path I take god will accept my new reality and place before my new path more choices. There are no wrong paths. "AdventureBegins" if you knew your decision was the right one.... then why would you need faith I never said I needed it. I have it because I choose it. I kinda like my faith. It goes along with me wherever I go and what ever happens. god also has faith... Faith they we will continue to grow. |
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I never said I needed it. I have it because I choose it. I kinda like my faith. It goes along with me wherever I go and what ever happens. god also has faith... Faith they we will continue to grow. "AdventureBegins"..faith cannot exist without doubt ...because why would you need it |
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Sorry love but your wrong....I don't doubt my Lord EVER
I never said I needed it. I have it because I choose it. I kinda like my faith. It goes along with me wherever I go and what ever happens. god also has faith... Faith they we will continue to grow. "AdventureBegins"..faith cannot exist without doubt ...because why would you need it |
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Sorry love but your wrong....I don't doubt my Lord EVER "feralcatlady" then you have no faith |
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I never said I needed it. I have it because I choose it. I kinda like my faith. It goes along with me wherever I go and what ever happens. god also has faith... Faith they we will continue to grow. "AdventureBegins"..faith cannot exist without doubt ...because why would you need it I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt. It is a wonderful feeling... Faith in and of itself... One that I would hope all on the earth experience at least once in this lifetime. Love would then be more to us all than money,war and power... Which the earth could stand to have a lot less of. |
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I am gravely sorry that you can not feel faith without doubt. It is a wonderful feeling... Faith in and of itself... One that I would hope all on the earth experience at least once in this lifetime. Love would then be more to us all than money,war and power... Which the earth could stand to have a lot less of. "AdventureBegins" do you need faith that you exist? ...or do you know that you exist |
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a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic This is actually good logic. If you feel you 'know' something and are positive about it, then you have no doubt whatsoever. But you cannot "know" a thing except by direct experience,if you do not have the direct experience then you do not know it, you only think you know it. If you think you know something by way of evidence or proof, (not by direct experience) then it is not the something that you know. It is the proof that you trust and believe in. You then think you know the truth because you trust and believe the proof. But even direct experience is faulty and can be wrong. To coin a term used by funches a lot, you could be delusional. So can you ever really KNOW SOMETHING and be 100% positive about it? I don't think so. |
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a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic This is actually good logic. If you feel you 'know' something and are positive about it, then you have no doubt whatsoever. But you cannot "know" a thing except by direct experience,if you do not have the direct experience then you do not know it, you only think you know it. If you think you know something by way of evidence or proof, (not by direct experience) then it is not the something that you know. It is the proof that you trust and believe in. You then think you know the truth because you trust and believe the proof. But even direct experience is faulty and can be wrong. To coin a term used by funches a lot, you could be delusional. So can you ever really KNOW SOMETHING and be 100% positive about it? I don't think so. so "JenniBean" are you saying that you are not 100 percent positive about your own existence and actually have doubts that you do exist |
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a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic This is actually good logic. If you feel you 'know' something and are positive about it, then you have no doubt whatsoever. But you cannot "know" a thing except by direct experience,if you do not have the direct experience then you do not know it, you only think you know it. If you think you know something by way of evidence or proof, (not by direct experience) then it is not the something that you know. It is the proof that you trust and believe in. You then think you know the truth because you trust and believe the proof. But even direct experience is faulty and can be wrong. To coin a term used by funches a lot, you could be delusional. So can you ever really KNOW SOMETHING and be 100% positive about it? I don't think so. so "JenniBean" are you saying that you are not 100 percent positive about your own existence and actually have doubts that you do exist Nope. That I exist is the only thing I am certain of. Everything else is just opinion, speculation and illusion. |
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a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic This is actually good logic. If you feel you 'know' something and are positive about it, then you have no doubt whatsoever. But you cannot "know" a thing except by direct experience,if you do not have the direct experience then you do not know it, you only think you know it. If you think you know something by way of evidence or proof, (not by direct experience) then it is not the something that you know. It is the proof that you trust and believe in. You then think you know the truth because you trust and believe the proof. But even direct experience is faulty and can be wrong. To coin a term used by funches a lot, you could be delusional. So can you ever really KNOW SOMETHING and be 100% positive about it? I don't think so. so "JenniBean" are you saying that you are not 100 percent positive about your own existence and actually have doubts that you do exist Nope. That I exist is the only thing I am certain of. Everything else is just opinion, speculation and illusion. by jove I thinks she's got it |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 10/31/08 06:33 PM
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a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" so are those that then try to pass off a belief in God as truth without the sufficient proof to make such a claim lying to oneself and to others, while using the word faith as a way to justify the deception "to believe is to doubt" ...there is just no way around this logic This is actually good logic. If you feel you 'know' something and are positive about it, then you have no doubt whatsoever. But you cannot "know" a thing except by direct experience,if you do not have the direct experience then you do not know it, you only think you know it. If you think you know something by way of evidence or proof, (not by direct experience) then it is not the something that you know. It is the proof that you trust and believe in. You then think you know the truth because you trust and believe the proof. But even direct experience is faulty and can be wrong. To coin a term used by funches a lot, you could be delusional. So can you ever really KNOW SOMETHING and be 100% positive about it? I don't think so. so "JenniBean" are you saying that you are not 100 percent positive about your own existence and actually have doubts that you do exist Nope. That I exist is the only thing I am certain of. Everything else is just opinion, speculation and illusion. by jove I thinks she's got it Wake up funches I have always said this. Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement. |
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Wake up funches I have always said this. Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement. "JennieBean" your religious programming keep forcing you to add a God to that little senerio .. |
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Wake up funches I have always said this. Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement. "JennieBean" your religious programming keep forcing you to add a God to that little senerio .. I am that god. What god are you referring to? |
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Wake up funches I have always said this. Stripping away everything else, this has always been my bottom line. The final statement. "JennieBean" your religious programming keep forcing you to add a God to that little senerio .. I am that god. What god are you referring to? well it was something you said in a post a long long time ago in a thread far far away ..of you being a part of a greater God ...also you have that whole weird "universal mind" thing going on |
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