Topic: Jesus is not God here's proof...
Rapunzel's photo
Sat 01/05/08 09:24 AM
~most certainly yzrabbit flowerforyou

~ quite aware of that ~ messier :wink: drinker

~ my love is genuine and pure ~ :heart: flowerforyou :heart:



yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 01/05/08 09:40 AM

Matthew 10:34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Chazster's photo
Sat 01/05/08 09:43 AM
that reminds me of you.

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Sat 01/05/08 09:50 AM


John 5:31 If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.


John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.

Chazster's photo
Sat 01/05/08 09:56 AM
testifying about yourself and for yourself are two different things but w/e.

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Sat 01/05/08 10:00 AM

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Exodus 32:14 Then the Lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

Rapunzel's photo
Sat 01/05/08 10:30 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sat 01/05/08 10:32 AM
dear dear rabbit...flowerforyou




hi Chazster ...how's it going, bud ...drinker



peace to you also, brother flowerforyou smokin flowerforyou







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Sat 01/05/08 10:37 AM
Isaiah 40

40:7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

Rapunzel's photo
Sat 01/05/08 10:39 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sat 01/05/08 10:40 AM
The Candle Of Life flowerforyou

from the Cd..drinker

To Our Children's Children's Children flowerforyou

by the Moody Blues smokin

Something you can't hide
Says you're lonely blushing
Hidden deep inside
Of you only :smile:
It's there for you to see
Take a look and be
Burn slowly the candle of life flowerforyou

Something there outside
Says we're only
In the hands of time
Falling slowly
It's there for us to know
With love that we can go
Burn slowly the candle of life flowerforyou

So love everybody
And make them your friend
So love everybody
And make them your friend flowerforyou

Something you can't hide
Says you're lonely
Hidden deep inside
Of you only
It's there for you to see
Take a look and be
Burn slowly the candle of life flowerforyou

Something there outside
Says we're only
In the hands of time
Falling slowly
It's there for us to know
With love that we can go
Burn slowly the candle of life flowerforyou


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Sat 01/05/08 10:45 AM

Leviticus 25:44-45
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

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Sat 01/05/08 11:07 AM
Edited by scttrbrain on Sat 01/05/08 11:09 AM
"Let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."Acts 4:10-12 . N.K.J.

GODS POWER & GLORY ! THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO CHRIST. READ THE NEW TESTAMENT.!
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

1 John 4:1 (New King James Version)
"And I say to you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!" Luke 12 : 4 & 5.

Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness"; and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile." 1. Corinthians 3 : 18 - 20.
But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who "will render to each one according to his deeds."

Romans 2 : 5 & 6.
His own iniquities entrap the wicked man, And he is caught in the cords of his sin. He shall die for lack of instruction, And in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.!

For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? Matthew 16:26 (New King James Version)

It's easy. Take a verse and make it what your own mind wants it to say. But, the trick is to read all of the scripture to understand it fully.

Kat


Sorry; for those that use the scripture. Or use it wrongly.

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Sat 01/05/08 11:14 AM
Jeremiah 49

49:17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.

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Sat 01/05/08 11:25 AM
We pray they will be strengthened with the shared knowledge from Rev. 7:9-15 which promises eternal blessings of joy and peace after they face the fading sword of death for their new found faith.

The survivors in Christ may recall the promise of Acts 2:17-21 which proclaims that in the final days "it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Perhaps it will be the words of Jesus in Matt. 28:20 which they will cling to with hope until the moment the Church returns with Christ when He said, "…Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

Christ promises salvation, honor and blessings throughout the Tribulation Period.

In summation let us comfort every believer with the knowledge that loved ones who have been witnessed to in this lifetime are not automatically damned to Hell if they have not received Christ as their Savior by the time the Rapture has taken place.

This is because "Jesus Christ who is the same yesterday, today, and forever" (Heb. 13:8) "…after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God (Heb. 10:12), promises He will "never leave you, or forsake you" (Heb. 13:5).

Always remember, it was not the nails which pierced Jesus’ hands and feet that kept Him on the cross until every sin was paid for in full, it was the Love of God which held His body fast.
LITTLE CHILDREN
"LOVE ONE ANOTHER"
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Romans 3:21-24.N.K.J.V.

Kat

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Sat 01/05/08 11:37 AM
Christ warned of hypocrisy in many instances found in Scripture. At one point ‘Jesus warned all to “Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sad’-du-cees” (Mt 16:6).’ The Pharisees and the Sad’-du-cees were the religious leaders, and the leaven Christ was referring to, was their teachings. Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John reveal the religious leaders in that day quoted Scripture, yet their understanding was rooted in hypocrisy (Lk 12:1).

Now, if we are to be wary of this hypocrisy it is important to understand what this hypocrisy is. So we judge no one, because with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged (Mt 7:2), the only way we are able to uncover the hypocrisy, which Christ warned of, is by understanding Scripture. To believe in Christ, you have to be convinced the Bible was written by Holy men of God and through God’s Spirit. And was not of any private interpretation of men (2 Pt 1:20). Then if you have this conviction, you should be able to realize Scripture wouldn’t be interpreted in a mixed up way, because God is not a hypocrite neither was Jesus. Thereby, God wouldn’t mean one thing in his Word one place, and then mean something else found in another book of Scripture. Especially ‘when we are told, “That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God” (Lk 4:4).’

And it’s for this reason; those found in God’s household having His Spirit are not the ones who teach hypocrisy. To understand how Scripture was written is to understand how the Spirit of God in a man of God works. You should be able to understand this because in this day you are able to understand, how a tree grows. By this I mean we all know, it is the DNA, in the tree that determines what the tree will look like, the fruit it bears, or even what healing powers that lie within. By the tree’s appearance it is able to tell us what the DNA has revealed to it. However, the tree does not become the DNA and enforcer of how it grows; neither does the tree become greater than the DNA which would enable it to enforce how other trees grow. This is what it is like when a person is joined unto the Lord, because the Spirit that is in him (her) reveals the things that are of the Lord and he is able to reveal these things unto others. Hence this was how the Scriptures were written, due to God hath revealed them unto (his prophets) by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.(1 Cor 2:10).

Kat




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Sat 01/05/08 11:54 AM
Daniel 8

8:27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

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Sat 01/05/08 12:17 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Sat 01/05/08 12:34 PM
Sighhhhh....

Another important aspect, is all Scripture is for proof and reproof (2 Ti 3:16). What this means is, when you read Scripture every ‘I’ has to be dotted and every ‘T’ crossed. In other words if there is a Scripture that contradicts what you or I have understood then what we have understood is not correct, neither was it instructed by his Spirit but was an interpretation of our own thoughts.
Of course I believe in the God of Heaven who created the world and everything in it. And because, I am convinced, God is all powerful I know it would be challenging to keep within His guidelines. And it is for this reason, I don’t believe, in creation whereas a man is granted sovereignty over his Word, enabling him to change it. I’m not saying some haven’t tried to rewrite the Bible, as we find in this day there are many versions available. I hold only to the King James Version of Scripture. As the King James Version, was the first Bible translated into English from Greek, Hebrew, and Babylonian. And those who transcribed it didn’t understand, for the most part, what it was saying but only translated the words into English.

>>> Another factor to understand is how man by his wisdom developed an ink blot test? By the picture one sees a Psychiatrist is able to determine the intent of ones heart. Now if a doctor in his wisdom was able to develop this test, isn’t the foolishness of God wiser than men? <<<(((I found this in my many researches. I thought it worked so well.))))

(1 Cor 1:25)
So why would anyone marvel that people, are able to interpret Scripture in many ways? You see, the reason this is true is he (God) searcheth the reins and hearts [Rv 2:23], of mankind. Or again, it can be compared to those who look at the ink blot test and vary on what they perceive. So in essence a person can read Scripture and if his heart is full of deceit he will read deceit, one who is covetous, will read covetousness, one who is incapable of love will not read love, and so fourth.

Kat



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Sat 01/05/08 12:31 PM
Amos 4

4:6 And I also have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities, and want of bread in all your places: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

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Sat 01/05/08 09:10 PM


And feral when this Godly Eljay calls me a "Troll"

What part of him is that the genuine one or the awesome one?


Rabbit - you're a Troll. Do you know what that is?

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Sat 01/05/08 09:21 PM
Edited by Eljay on Sat 01/05/08 09:22 PM
For Rabbit and the others who are not sure why I said what I said:


What is a troll?

The term "troll" can mean a number of different things, but in essence, a troll is a person who aims to have 'pleasure' at your expense. There are two main types of trolls:

people who have the psychological need to feel good by making others feel bad.
This is a sort of "psycho troll", whose deception involves deceiving themselves as well as others. Such people may use their real names on the internet, and they may not even realise that they are "trolling" because it is all subconscious.
people who pretend to be someone that they are not - they create personae that you think are real, but they know is fictitious.

There are four types of these trolls:

Playtime Trolls: an individual plays a simple, short game. Such trolls are relatively easy to spot because their attack or provocation is fairly blatant, and the persona is fairly two-dimensional.

Tactical Trolls: This is where the troller takes the game more seriously, creates a credible persona to gain confidence of others, and provokes strife in a subtle and invidious way.

Strategic Trolls: A very serious form of game, involving the production of an overall strategy that can take months or years to develop. It can also involve a number of people acting together in order to invade a list.

Domination Trolls: This is where the trollers' strategy extends to the creation and running of apparently bona-fide mailing lists.

Dealing with TrollsHere are some ideas to help avoid being deceived by trolls:

Before you invest your trust in someone - either emotional or financial trust - you should verify their bona fide nature from multiple known, reliable and independent sources.


ignore postings that you think are suspicious.


beware of off-list emails that praise and flatter, or seem to evoke sympathy. If you feel yourself beginning to like someone, ask first: how much do I know about them from real life sources?


if you do get involved with anyone via the internet, seek out verifiable data. Real people will provide information about themselves that is open-ended and leads to a myriad of sources which enable you to verify their genuine status.


if you are concerned by email list/group postings, write to the listmaster about it.


listmasters can also make their lists restricted, and conduct a security analysis of each list application before allowing them to subscribe. This is probably easier to do in areas that have professional associations or qualifications.
We have more detailed information on our page on troll tactics. This page provides more information to help you recognise the different types, and tactics you can use to avoid the problems they create.


Think there might be an attribute or two here about the way you post Rabbit?

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Sat 01/05/08 09:25 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sat 01/05/08 09:36 PM
i just looked this up as well :

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang,
is someone who posts controversial messages
in an online community,
such as an online discussion forum,
with the intention of baiting other users
into an emotional response.

[1] The rise of the expression "concern troll"
reflects an expanded definition of troll
as someone whose posts have the primary goal
of disrupting or derailing an internet community.

"Troll" is also used in a broader pejorative
sense to question the good faith
of any Internet user who has annoyed
the person using the term.