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if you had a gallon jug of candy and there is one piece left in it and asked someone if it was empty or full of candy. I don't think people would answer the question.
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That dosn't say much So we either many souls went to heaven sinless like Jesus Or Babies are born sinners (Which I think is sick) |
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it doesnt sink in does it. I give up, I guess you just can't understand the simple explanation I gave several times.
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Your explination was sinless sinners no one with logic can understand that |
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no it wasnt sinless sinners. It was having sin without committing any yourself.
I will explain one last time. The babies have a sin passed down to them from adam and eve. They did not commit the sin themselves so they are not sinners yet they have that original sin. They would go straight to heaven only with that original sin if they died. The only people born without original sin were Mary and Jesus. (adam and eve were created not born.) |
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Christians are not perfect and never profess to be ... just that some always are trying to find a crack in their armor doesn't mean that they are any less than a soldier in the army of the Most High God The very idea that Christianity has become nothing more than being a ‘soldier’ in a war of doctrine is indeed very sad. This view suggests that everyone who doesn’t believe in said doctrine must then necessarily be an enemy of God. I can assure you that I am no enemy of God, or Jesus for that matter. abra i never said the word enemy... you misinterpret my words... and the words of others ... and you only get out of them exactly and only what you want to hear i feel sorry for you, truly... after reading months of your posts i feel that you are so at unrest in your own life that you make it your life's goal to try to disprove Christian's beliefs... |
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Christians are not perfect and never profess to be ... just that some always are trying to find a crack in their armor doesn't mean that they are any less than a soldier in the army of the Most High God The very idea that Christianity has become nothing more than being a ‘soldier’ in a war of doctrine is indeed very sad. This view suggests that everyone who doesn’t believe in said doctrine must then necessarily be an enemy of God. I can assure you that I am no enemy of God, or Jesus for that matter. abra i never said the word enemy... you misinterpret my words... and the words of others ... and you only get out of them exactly and only what you want to hear i feel sorry for you, truly... after reading months of your posts i feel that you are so at unrest in your own life that you make it your life's goal to try to disprove Christian's beliefs... So true I am afraid.....and as much as you heart them and explain they just close their ears....I'm afraid the lil rabbit is the same.......So people just pray.....that the Good Lord takes the obvious years of wax buildup out of their ears so that they may hear.....That the Good Lord softens their hearts so that they don't have it encased in steel so that they may feel in their hearts.......and last but not least. Pray that the Good Lord.....takes the film of their eyes....so that they can see that we all are saying what we are out of love.......not hate....and that what we show....is also of love and truth.....In this I simply pray in His precious name.. AMEN ANd the people said..... AMEN |
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What you wont say is a one day old baby that passes away is sinless or not I see what you wont say 1 Sinless like Jesus 2 sinful |
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A 1 day old baby that passes away is sinless........
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A 1 day old baby that passes away is sinless........ So in the history of the world there have probably been millions of sinless humans on earth and that makes a sinless Jesus not very extraordinary. |
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Normally, I wouldnt respond to such as this...Just gotta set ya straight... When Jesus was on the cross, he was MAN...taking on your sin...and mine, anyway, when he cried out the verse your refering to, He was crying out to OUR father, GOD...Until He gave up the ghost, so to speak...He was very much like you and I, Just perfect being the BEGOTTON Son of GOD...without sin of His own. Look in Mathew, Mark Luke especially and John... I believe in Jesus as a great prophet and a blessing to all the universe. But was his life and teachings very different from all other prophets? please try to think about the whole picture: When we are talking about God, it means something that doesn't have any weeknesses or needs. Why should he turn into a human to change our sins. Isn't he the JUDGE himself? what is a sin???  Isn't it any act against his regulation and laws? Why should he come back to change his judgement system as a human? Did he erased all the sins just for christians or for all the human kind? Then all of us can do everything we want and remain sinless  No one will take/delete your sins, you are responsible for everything you do. If he wants to forgive you, he simply does. If he wants to do something, it just happens. There's only one God. He was never born, he will never die and has no children or a family. I know that it's too hard to even think about changing your believes that came from our fathers. but it's time to be aware of who you are. I wish that he will forgive all of us at the end. |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Fri 01/04/08 08:27 PM
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Christians are not perfect and never profess to be ... just that some always are trying to find a crack in their armor doesn't mean that they are any less than a soldier in the army of the Most High God The very idea that Christianity has become nothing more than being a ‘soldier’ in a war of doctrine is indeed very sad. This view suggests that everyone who doesn’t believe in said doctrine must then necessarily be an enemy of God. I can assure you that I am no enemy of God, or Jesus for that matter. abra i never said the word enemy... you misinterpret my words... and the words of others ... and you only get out of them exactly and only what you want to hear i feel sorry for you, truly... after reading months of your posts i feel that you are so at unrest in your own life that you make it your life's goal to try to disprove Christian's beliefs... So true I am afraid.....and as much as you heart them and explain they just close their ears....I'm afraid the lil rabbit is the same.......So people just pray.....that the Good Lord takes the obvious years of wax buildup out of their ears so that they may hear.....That the Good Lord softens their hearts so that they don't have it encased in steel so that they may feel in their hearts.......and last but not least. Pray that the Good Lord.....takes the film of their eyes....so that they can see that we all are saying what we are out of love.......not hate....and that what we show....is also of love and truth.....In this I simply pray in His precious name.. AMEN ANd the people said..... AMEN Amen ~ Sister |
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amen to that.......
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Normally, I wouldnt respond to such as this...Just gotta set ya straight... When Jesus was on the cross, he was MAN...taking on your sin...and mine, anyway, when he cried out the verse your refering to, He was crying out to OUR father, GOD...Until He gave up the ghost, so to speak...He was very much like you and I, Just perfect being the BEGOTTON Son of GOD...without sin of His own. Look in Mathew, Mark Luke especially and John... I believe in Jesus as a great prophet and a blessing to all the universe. But was his life and teachings very different from all other prophets? please try to think about the whole picture: When we are talking about God, it means something that doesn't have any weeknesses or needs. Why should he turn into a human to change our sins. Isn't he the JUDGE himself? what is a sin??? Isn't it any act against his regulation and laws? Why should he come back to change his judgement system as a human? Did he erased all the sins just for christians or for all the human kind? Then all of us can do everything we want and remain sinless No one will take/delete your sins, you are responsible for everything you do. If he wants to forgive you, he simply does. If he wants to do something, it just happens. There's only one God. He was never born, he will never die and has no children or a family. I know that it's too hard to even think about changing your believes that came from our fathers. but it's time to be aware of who you are. I wish that he will forgive all of us at the end. Very Interesting |
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A 1 day old baby that passes away is sinless........ Nope they still have original sin. The whole reason Jesus came down to die on the cross was to come and sacrifice himself to forgive original sin. |
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but people can die without sin on their souls. Thats what last right are. The extraordinary thing was not that he died without sin but that he was born without it and that he never committed one his whole life.
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sorry chazster you seem to be the only one that belives in original sin here. Everyone else thinks that babies are sinless. |
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What you wont say is a one day old baby that passes away is sinless or not I see what you wont say 1 Sinless like Jesus 2 sinful The problem is in terms. I believe that a baby can break a commandment. A six month old can lie. But a baby cannot sin, because sinning is breaking a commandment while being aware of the commandment. Babys and children don't understand that they are sinning, so they are innocent. Is a one day old baby sinless? Yes, I believe so. Not only that, but they also haven't broken a commandment. That said, they are under what is called "Original Sin" by some, but I prefer to say "Fallen State". Adam was the son of God. Eve was made from Adam. Everyone since then is a child of man, not a child of God. Therefore, everyone is subject to the same laws which mankind are subject to. Adam was cursed, so that he would die, so his children will also die. God has set up an...adoption program  (for lack of a better word), so that we can become spiritual children of God. So that our bodies will die, but our spirits will live on. Hope that clears it up for you and sorry it took so long. I had to get dinner and then I started installing my new HDD Mobile racks. |
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sorry chazster you seem to be the only one that belives in original sin here. Everyone else thinks that babies are sinless. Maybe because I am the only Catholic lol. Anyway catholics believe in original sin. Its why you become baptized. |
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Thats what I think is sick cause how can a baby have original sin. I think babies are wonderful sinless beings. |
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