Love the cigarette Stan!

I think imma have to go retro with mine now! LOL

yeah, like Hitler 'suggested' a register for Jews ... guess we should watch out for Trumps muslim gas chambers ...

It's a good thing, especially the background checks and requiring stricter license laws. It's not always criminals killing people, it's people who can't handle guns properly.

Most research says you can reduce incidents.
And in countries where they have stricter gun laws, they have fewer incidents per capita.


The NRA is full of BS...

I have been to one of Trump's gas chambers... FYI



We got kicked out after our first night...

Technically I'm banned from the Trump International Las Vegas, according to the front desk... but according to the General manager it's only the security manager who can ban people... so I am still trying to figure out what exactly that means for myself...

There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world (comprising a whopping 25% of the world's overall population. One person in four are Muslims) and growing dramatically, only 14 million Jews in the world. The minorities are the ones that should worry about being preyed upon because they are easier to enslave and control. Two billion in population is not in any immediate danger of being gassed and it would also take decades if it ever happened = it is not going to happen.

trumps not a socialist liberal...no need to worry about your muslim friends

just how is the NRA ful of bs? Because they want responsible citizens to own guns? Because they promote gun safety laws and regulations? You have no idea what your babbling about, you're just repeating something a dumb liberal said on MSNBC...

Here is what the biggest problem is. Its not so much the firearms but the media. I have been saying this for years. If the media stopped reporting and, for the lack of a better term, glorifying these shooters... This would surely reduce the number of these mass shootings. These people are convinced that they will go down in history with their names being remembered for the things they have done. Well... The media hasn't let them down. Someone shoots up a church or school and the media talks about that person and their life for weeks. Stop!!!. Don't even mention their name. Just refer to them as the assailant. Don't show their picture. Don't mention their name. Don't drone on about their history and family life. No one cares. Concentrate on the victims if you need to have a story. When these idiots and glory whores realize they will simply be forgotten and referred to as simply body 1... They won't be as apt to try and go out in the blaze of glory.

Although I can believe part of what may be on these people's mind might be the 'glory', I believe its not a major part. These are sick individuals whose primary purpose, in my opinion, is spreading pain, not being famous. People do it every day on social media(try to spread pain) even though they will be lost in a sea of other posts and opinions, they just do it with words. But they do it because they are miserable themselves and seeking to take it out on others.

The Media does have a difficult position, to report what is happening in the world, the good, bad, and ugly. I wouldn't want to change that. Though I would prefer if the balance was more realistic in terms of flooding the stories with negative outliers as if they are more common and normal than they may actually be.

I was actually expanding on the Hitler comparison which was about a nation's leader, not about the whole world. The idea that it starts 'slow' as a suggestion that things will end as Hitler did, can be shown as far reaching when that same 'slow' analogy is used to point out Trump and Hitler both 'suggested' religious registry. For Hitler that was a 'slow' start to gassing those religious members, but I doubt that makes Trump supporters fear about Trump's similar 'suggestion'.

Muslims AND Jewish in america are both minorities, so in america, both would be equally in danger of being 'prey'.

I totally get and agree that gassing is not going to happen, any more than a gun ban or gun retrieval.

I've just got back from auschwitz, I really need to read up on just who was funding the war machine for the nazis before America got involved
Definitely not a good comparison that's being made here!

I think the comparison is being made because there are so many views to this topic and some are really extreme. Take the super hard left like Mr.Hogg... They want complete confiscation of ALL firearms. Well that's how it started in most countries that have been victim to mass genocide.

I agree. Confiscation is another extreme and not the answer. Even in the UK, which has a gun related death rate that is only 2 percent of ours, guns are not banned, the vetting process is just more thorough for licensing and the type of guns being retailed are better monitored.

In a way yes.
But you couldn't enforce control by simply banning something weather it be guns or littering. It isn't the manufacturer of say plastic bottles that throw them in the sea it's people, same as it's people who use guns inappropriately that kill, not the manufacturer.

yes. plastic bottles are used to hold liquids. They can be used or misused however one chooses and rarely if ever to end another persons life. Cars also are made for a purpose of transportation and can be used or misused, they kill when misused for sure. But they would kill more if manufacturers were allowed to sale and retail cars that reached speeds of 500 miles an hour or had decorative spikes on the outsides, so there are specifications expected before they hit the market.

Guns are manufactured for maximum damage to something or someone, their misuse is made more deadly the deadlier they are made to be. So while banning guns would not ensure 'control', better monitoring of how the gun is manufactured to be used may somewhat curb the numbers of deaths being caused.

If I buy a car and 2 bottles of jack daniels, drive then kill someone who is at fault, the car manufacturers, jack daniels or me?

yes... Their FIREARMrates are a fraction of ours. I can't argue that. But explain this. Why is the murder rate in London exceeding that of New York and how? The criminals have the same intent but have just found alternate ways of committing the same crimes. Now they are talking about banning KNIVES. See... Its not a gun control problem. Never has been. Its a society problem. Our society is broken. Too many "safe spaces." Everyone is a victim now. It just plain getting out of hand. People need to just suck it up as we were told when I was a kid. Stop worrying about what Suzy is doing or how Jimmy is treated. Worry about yourself. Society as a whole is screwed. This "everyone is a winner and everyone gets a trophy" is the cause.

Its not about fault, its about responsibility.

IF the car manufacturer was building the cars for destruction, they have alot of responsibility, if for instance they created the car with swords sticking out the sides that impaled the victim ... maximum damage built in kind of thing ..

in the case of reality, where there are certain specifications manufacturers must meet though ...

the car manufacturer had no reason to believe the resource for transportation would be used to take a life, though with technology, they could possibly begin to manufacture cars with more accident sensors/brakes.

Jack Daniels was just a beverage maker. They have no reason to believe a drinker would not know to not drive. There is nothing on their part that could have diminished the potential for such an event.

You had complete control of your own actions, so you have the responsibility of choosing not to drive drunk.

it is too early to tell, probably just an outlier to be honest. This is information for two months of time that is being re-posted everywhere in the debate about guns. It will be clearer if this becomes the 'norm' or trend. Yes. our society is broken. I completely agree. There are too many victims in the sense that people are expecting more than civility from others but demanding agreement and coddling from others. I could speculate many causes, but the more important point is finding some solutions.