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Edited by
msharmony
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In a world where we are all so closely connected and our lives such an open social book, employment has become more than just a pay for task endeavor
we now are also accepting pay for behaving or not behaving certain ways, for being seen by the public with a certain image, etc,,, social media and our choice to participate in it greatly affects how much true freedom we have in our public voice/opinion, and how many others it may inadvertently affect ,,, which brings me to a question of ethics versus contracts consider this ... say you are in a business that involves a confidentiality clause, and during your 'job' you are told by the client that they have hidden a murder weapon and are framing an innocent person for a crime they committed and you are, in fact, sitting on top of the place they have hidden it, they show you and share details from the crime only someone there would know now, you are a part of a large company priding itself on confidentiality and if you come forward to lead investigators to the weapon and the guilty party, you damage that reputation and possibly cost the company (and its employees who are not associated with your experience) money Do you 'just do your job' and keep your mouth shut? Or do you sacrifice your job, and possibly others, by placing the value of justice and human life over said profits? |
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I don't find simple right-or-wrong questions to fall
under other headings. I am literal, always simple for me. Right is right and wrong is wrong. All that padding is hearsay..and not for me to try and deduce, I would turn it all over for someone in the know to decide..and take on no guilt. |
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hypothetical farce
no corporate confidentiality clause to protect trade secrets like the colonels 11 herbs and spices would be applicable to hiding a crime |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 10/26/17 09:43 AM
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hypothetical farce no corporate confidentiality clause to protect trade secrets like the colonels 11 herbs and spices would be applicable to hiding a crime I didnt say an NDA('Corporate confidentiality' agreement), I said the contract has a clause that no material shared is to be disclosed to outside sources, I have such a contract myself,, so, even IF it is not 'applicable' in terms of legal repurcussions, it is 'applicable' to the company's reputation and business if others feel their information can be shared and it is a hypothetical, so what would apply in Real time is not necessarily the point |
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I don't find simple right-or-wrong questions to fall under other headings. I am literal, always simple for me. Right is right and wrong is wrong. All that padding is hearsay..and not for me to try and deduce, I would turn it all over for someone in the know to decide..and take on no guilt. |
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Two words; Anonymous phonecall.
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I would say hide the murder weapon somewhere else and then bribe the client...
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I don't find simple right-or-wrong questions to fall under other headings. I am literal, always simple for me. Right is right and wrong is wrong. All that padding is hearsay..and not for me to try and deduce, I would turn it all over for someone in the know to decide..and take on no guilt. |
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NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreements) are specific to the agreement.
Confidential employment contracts are specific to the terms of employment. There is only one job function I can think of where confidentiality is both implied to all and accepted in a court of law and that is a priest hearing confession. Lawyers and shrinks have limited confidentiality to their clients but can be jailed for obstruction if they are party to the crime as collaborators. If a person is working as an assistant to a law firm and is under a blanket NDA as part of their employment contract they are limited as to what and to whom they can communicate what they witness during 'normal' job functions. The disclosure of damning information to a client could be disclosed up the employment chain of command discretely. The protections afforded to the disclosing employee would be covered under the sexual harassment laws for workplaces (federal). Sexual harassment is but one aspect of workplace harassment. The bottom line is a personal decision that determines if one really wants to work where there is a conflict of moral integrity. A decision must be made as to whether money/job is more important than conscious. If the benefits are good, most will keep their mouth shut and continue working there. |
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We had a similar topic to this not long ago, my answer is the same and always will be.
There is worse than wrong in this world, except the people who turn a blind eye to it. |
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In a world where we are all so closely connected and our lives such an open social book, employment has become more than just a pay for task endeavor we now are also accepting pay for behaving or not behaving certain ways, for being seen by the public with a certain image, etc,,, social media and our choice to participate in it greatly affects how much true freedom we have in our public voice/opinion, and how many others it may inadvertently affect ,,, which brings me to a question of ethics versus contracts consider this ... say you are in a business that involves a confidentiality clause, and during your 'job' you are told by the client that they have hidden a murder weapon and are framing an innocent person for a crime they committed and you are, in fact, sitting on top of the place they have hidden it, they show you and share details from the crime only someone there would know now, you are a part of a large company priding itself on confidentiality and if you come forward to lead investigators to the weapon and the guilty party, you damage that reputation and possibly cost the company (and its employees who are not associated with your experience) money Do you 'just do your job' and keep your mouth shut? Or do you sacrifice your job, and possibly others, by placing the value of justice and human life over said profits? I had a clause in my divorce ... where I could not talk badly about my X new wife ... I didn't until that clause was up wow did I let loose ... but nothing like this ... when I was way younger ... I broke the law big time and could have been busted for yrs ... but the only reason I did this was becouse I was being threaten and would loose my life at the time ... so I did it ... young and scared ... I new this person had killed many before ... new they where serious... honestly ... I would give them up ... in this case and possibly others ... really... is like the same as in the other kind of post... even though I joked in it their are very few... I would die and kill for and hide the shovel so yes... I would even take care of it myself if threatened and or I would open my mouth and tell and loose everything ... but I am older now this makes a huge difference ... but would hope I would never be in that kind of position ... |
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Two words; Anonymous phonecall. |
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Thu 10/26/17 02:45 PM
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Quit that job! Then go to the law and spill everything!
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WOW what is wrong with the world today?
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WOW what is wrong with the world today? tv and the internet have become the new real world |
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in most professions there is more than one ethical code of conduct . While confidentiality is important so too is the ethic of doing no harm . It would be unethical to allow an innocent person to be held accountable for something they did not do . Silence would be causing harm . Ethical values can and are weighted against each other . It is never just one dimensional . I agree with this too. Right is right and wrong is wrong, no contract changes that. I respect those willing to take risks to their lives or livelihoods to do whats right. At the same time, I do not condemn those who do not have the strength or interest in risking life or livelihood. |
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WOW what is wrong with the world today? tv and the internet have become the new real world Ya heard! You know it when you can't pry it away from them without a violent breakdown on their part. Kids saying this is my world right here in my hands. Somebody please call a doctor! |
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consider this ... say you are in a business that involves a confidentiality clause, and during your 'job' you are told by the client that they have hidden a murder weapon and are framing an innocent person for a crime they committed and you are, in fact, sitting on top of the place they have hidden it, they show you and share details from the crime only someone there would know now, you are a part of a large company priding itself on confidentiality and if you come forward to lead investigators to the weapon and the guilty party, you damage that reputation and possibly cost the company (and its employees who are not associated with your experience) money Do you 'just do your job' and keep your mouth shut? Or do you sacrifice your job, and possibly others, by placing the value of justice and human life over said profits? You pull out a gun and blow the clients head off. You claim self-defense and show the police the evidence that the client is a murderer. You save taxpayers a ton of money on court costs and penitentiary costs. You save an innocent persons life and their loved ones. And you walk away a hero with a clear conscious. |
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in most professions there is more than one ethical code of conduct . While confidentiality is important so too is the ethic of doing no harm . It would be unethical to allow an innocent person to be held accountable for something they did not do . Silence would be causing harm . Ethical values can and are weighted against each other . It is never just one dimensional . I'm with blondey on this one... Sorry I'm one that still believes in the truth regardless how it will effect me or others... When it comes to a life of another.. best not tell me for your *** will fry~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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I believe legally you are.. allowed to disclose such evidence.. it is for the greater good of the public..
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