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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Everyone can be offended by something, Jew's, Arabs, Christians, gay, black, white , meat eater, dog lovers, sex, jokes and on and on. ... Lock up all the PC idiots and get over it! The world would be such a better place! I am offended by this! Give me play doh!   Ok, you can have some play doh but not the yellow one, that offends me  I am offended you don't like yellow! Gimme! Don't discriminate Just a cotton pickin minute! I'm offended that your offended by my offense to yellow!  You have something against the sun? Let's take it outside....unless you have play doh.. Thwn we can make something together |
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Everyone can be offended by something, Jew's, Arabs, Christians, gay, black, white , meat eater, dog lovers, sex, jokes and on and on. ... Lock up all the PC idiots and get over it! The world would be such a better place! and mingle would be silent, if all 'opinions' were dragged through the mud like those deemed to be too 'pc' So people can say what they want but no one else has a voice to counter it? |
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Everyone can be offended by something, Jew's, Arabs, Christians, gay, black, white , meat eater, dog lovers, sex, jokes and on and on. ... Lock up all the PC idiots and get over it! The world would be such a better place! and mingle would be silent, if all 'opinions' were dragged through the mud like those deemed to be too 'pc' So people can say what they want but no one else has a voice to counter it? yes. People can say what they want. They can also be hypocrites by saying it. |
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Everyone can be offended by something, Jew's, Arabs, Christians, gay, black, white , meat eater, dog lovers, sex, jokes and on and on. ... Lock up all the PC idiots and get over it! The world would be such a better place! I am offended by this! Give me play doh! Ok, you can have some play doh but not the yellow one, that offends me I am offended you don't like yellow! Gimme! Don't discriminate Just a cotton pickin minute! I'm offended that your offended by my offense to yellow! You have something against the sun? Let's take it outside....unless you have play doh.. Thwn we can make something together Yes, I have play doh. can we make a statue? Oh, hang on, on second thoughts maybe not, don't want to offend anyone do we
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Everyone can be offended by something, Jew's, Arabs, Christians, gay, black, white , meat eater, dog lovers, sex, jokes and on and on. ... Lock up all the PC idiots and get over it! The world would be such a better place! and mingle would be silent, if all 'opinions' were dragged through the mud like those deemed to be too 'pc' So people can say what they want but no one else has a voice to counter it? yes. People can say what they want. They can also be hypocrites by saying it. Oh I definitely agree! But not sure how someone is a hypocrite just because they give an opinion on something made public. That isn't necessarily hypocrisy That is speaking their minds about what was already put out there |
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it is if it is
posting to social media about how another's choice to do the same is 'whining' or having a 'poor me' mentality merely having a different opinion is fine, labeling someone else's choice to do the same as something negative, is hypocritical |
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So now dinner hosts, restaurant and everything in between need to think about what might have happened to a guests ancestors before they set the flowers or serve the food?
I'm Irish.. should I be offended if I'm invited to a British home or I visit a English restaurant and there is potato salad on the table. Should I see that as some sort of jab at my Irish ancestry?.. you know, that potato famine thing. Nah.. I just dig in and eat.. why, you say?.. because.. that stuff is ancient history and has absolutely no effect on my life.. or any other Irish life.. that I know of...Ya see, as a whole.. we moved on.. grew.. melted into society... didn't live in the past Fact is.. nobody really gives a s**t anymore about the slavery period... people moved on.. unfortunately, some still use it as a crutch. yeh... the " poor me" syndrome. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 09/21/17 03:05 PM
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no green.
not restaurants and EVERYTHING in between. But when ONE PERSON has another person or persons over SPECIFICALLY. they generally SHOULD take into account what guests they have had. Like not offering meat if they invited vegetarians. Its not that hard or that big of a deal. potato salad is a food not a decoration, so its a false comparison, except in the case of allergies or religious culture. I know you dont care about slavery and some of us dont care about confederate pride or get emotional about a flag,, after all, ALL OF THOSE THINGS were originated IN THE PAST yet, some will find it easy to understand the power of SYMBOLISM and what something may symobolize to another person yet, some will consider what other people have been through, their customs and ancestral history, when doing something as INTIMATE as having dinner guests .... |
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So now those who have heard enough about slavery are jerk offs? Isn't it free speech to be able to say that you feel that those who constantly bring it into conversations are cramming it down peoples throats.
Isn't that our right not to agree with your views on this, without being labeled. I feel that many do in fact use it as a crutch..do in fact live in the past and do in fact use that terrible time as a way to make themselves look deprived. I feel that many ethnic groups had it much harder ( Look at what happened to the Jewish people.. can there actually be anything worst that could happen to a ethic group?)but yet, they do not use it as a crutch.. they moved on.. same can be said for most every ethnic group in America.. all had their struggles. Greeneyes.. or J.O. , if you prefer ;) |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 09/21/17 03:41 PM
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I find it interesting how often people project and react to things that have not been posted
the people who are JERK OFFS, if it wasnt clear, are those who would INVITE people to their home and not CARE About whether they feel welcomed or what their values are ... Noone brought slavery into anyones conversation here. An individual used their right to use social media to share an opinion a mingler used their right to bring THAT topic into the threads... the 'many have had it harder' argument can be used to shut down just about ANY complaint ever made on Mingle, yet here we are all still free and commenting on those experiences closest to OUR home, important to OUR VALUES and STANDARDS and most directly impacting upon OUR daily existence |
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The thing about a beautiful cotton centerpiece for a black dinner party is that it could have been accepted as a tribute to black history. That the host and hostess made a special arrangement to honor their guests.
For somene that lives in the present, it isn't that hard to see a compliment. For someone with personal issues about their heritage, any gesture will be an insult. Its all in how you look at the world around you. I too am of Irish descent. I don't flip out if I go to a dinner party and there is a train as a centerpiece. If they were making an effort to call out my heritage I would be honored that they are aware of the Irish hands in building the railroads. What if the host were a black family with a cotton centerpiece. Is that okay or is it a non-issue like blacks calling each other the "N" word? I live in a black neighborhood. I hear that racial slur coming out of ONLY black people's mouths. It is a non-event. This area is also rich in Mexican population. I never hear racial slurs from them, ever. It seems like some black people only take offense when someone else acknowledges their history. Then it is an outrage and the screaming, crying and violence starts. |
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This is what I mean when I say all Americans are brought up with some racist views. It is either due to associations the media immerses us with that causes conscious and subconscious stereotypes, or associations of certain things to certain cultures or in our educational process and it's tendency to to the same. This is also what I mean when I say I don't care about personal racism as much as institutional. Much personal racism is simply ignorance and some actually comes from ignorance and good intentions. I see this as the latter. As Americans we learn to associate foods with cultures so Latinas are associated with Tacos, for example. And the night before this event, Latinos were invited over and INDEED were served tacos WITHOUT the cotton stalk centerpiece, which make me feel the centerpiece choice was more intentional than 'seasonal'. Because of that I understand the reasons catering decided to serve African Americans 'southern' food. I also understand how ignorant caterers would make the association between cotton and African Americans and not stop to think about how much more offensive that might be than simple food choice, as cotton is not exactly something Africans enjoyed or chose to pick themselves. I'd say, this was just ignorance without intention of being offensive. I'd also say that ignorance should fade with knowledge. Now that the 'offenders' have been informed, I doubt they will make that choice again in the future. |
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I like chicken and watermelon.
So, if I go on a picnic at a park and have chicken and watermelon I'm a racist? No. I like chicken and watermelon. If I wear sandals to the store I am not making fun of Arabs. I like sandals. Like I have been saying for a long time. Negative thinking causes you to see negative things. If you are looking for racism and oppression you find racism and oppression even when it isn't present. The cotton centerpiece is only an issue because someone made it an issue by calling notice to it and claiming it was offensive. In today's hyped up world of over-exposure and the younger generation's need to have the spotlight in all things this was more about attention than anything else. I know how facebook works. I know how getting "Likes" is really important to kids. I also realized how pathetic it is and stopped using facebook. Narcissism, plain and simple. |
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The thing about a beautiful cotton centerpiece for a black dinner party is that it could have been accepted as a tribute to black history. That the host and hostess made a special arrangement to honor their guests. For somene that lives in the present, it isn't that hard to see a compliment. For someone with personal issues about their heritage, any gesture will be an insult. Its all in how you look at the world around you. I too am of Irish descent. I don't flip out if I go to a dinner party and there is a train as a centerpiece. If they were making an effort to call out my heritage I would be honored that they are aware of the Irish hands in building the railroads. What if the host were a black family with a cotton centerpiece. Is that okay or is it a non-issue like blacks calling each other the "N" word? I live in a black neighborhood. I hear that racial slur coming out of ONLY black people's mouths. It is a non-event. This area is also rich in Mexican population. I never hear racial slurs from them, ever. It seems like some black people only take offense when someone else acknowledges their history. Then it is an outrage and the screaming, crying and violence starts. yes. It is an issue. people have different ways of addressing those with shared history as a sign of unity, people with different history used those same means as a sign of condescention or insult its how the world works. sometimes you find racism because it is there, and if you dont wish to see it you can excuse it away... j/s |
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This is what I mean when I say all Americans are brought up with some racist views. It is either due to associations the media immerses us with that causes conscious and subconscious stereotypes, or associations of certain things to certain cultures or in our educational process and it's tendency to to the same. This is also what I mean when I say I don't care about personal racism as much as institutional. Much personal racism is simply ignorance and some actually comes from ignorance and good intentions. I see this as the latter. As Americans we learn to associate foods with cultures so Latinas are associated with Tacos, for example. And the night before this event, Latinos were invited over and INDEED were served tacos WITHOUT the cotton stalk centerpiece, which make me feel the centerpiece choice was more intentional than 'seasonal'. Because of that I understand the reasons catering decided to serve African Americans 'southern' food. I also understand how ignorant caterers would make the association between cotton and African Americans and not stop to think about how much more offensive that might be than simple food choice, as cotton is not exactly something Africans enjoyed or chose to pick themselves. I'd say, this was just ignorance without intention of being offensive. I'd also say that ignorance should fade with knowledge. Now that the 'offenders' have been informed, I doubt they will make that choice again in the future. well. I agree racism isnt always about hate, that is why it is so hard to discuss because people called on it get defensive assuming it is... racism is sometimes about hate but usually just about ignorance and seeing a black person and assuming that therefore one will eat chicken and watermelon is as racist as seeing a white male and suggesting you should hide your guns or your children its associating a value with a race, instead of the individual.... |
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I like chicken and watermelon. So, if I go on a picnic at a park and have chicken and watermelon I'm a racist? No. I like chicken and watermelon. If I wear sandals to the store I am not making fun of Arabs. I like sandals. Like I have been saying for a long time. Negative thinking causes you to see negative things. If you are looking for racism and oppression you find racism and oppression even when it isn't present. The cotton centerpiece is only an issue because someone made it an issue by calling notice to it and claiming it was offensive. In today's hyped up world of over-exposure and the younger generation's need to have the spotlight in all things this was more about attention than anything else. I know how facebook works. I know how getting "Likes" is really important to kids. I also realized how pathetic it is and stopped using facebook. Narcissism, plain and simple. respectfully, this line of logic is quite ridiculous and over done eating chicken and watermelon and ASSOCIATING any black people with assumption that they will LIKE chicken and watermelon are two different things entirely wearing sandals and having the ASSUMPTION that arabs will want or wear sandals are two different things entirely negative thinking can cause you to see negative things, just like xrays can cause you to see bones that doesnt mean what you see isnt there though... |
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The thing about a beautiful cotton centerpiece for a black dinner party is that it could have been accepted as a tribute to black history. That the host and hostess made a special arrangement to honor their guests. For somene that lives in the present, it isn't that hard to see a compliment. For someone with personal issues about their heritage, any gesture will be an insult. Its all in how you look at the world around you. I too am of Irish descent. I don't flip out if I go to a dinner party and there is a train as a centerpiece. If they were making an effort to call out my heritage I would be honored that they are aware of the Irish hands in building the railroads. What if the host were a black family with a cotton centerpiece. Is that okay or is it a non-issue like blacks calling each other the "N" word? I live in a black neighborhood. I hear that racial slur coming out of ONLY black people's mouths. It is a non-event. This area is also rich in Mexican population. I never hear racial slurs from them, ever. It seems like some black people only take offense when someone else acknowledges their history. Then it is an outrage and the screaming, crying and violence starts. With all due respect, I dont hear white people say ****** either, dont mean it doesnt happen. Like Ive said, what people call each other in their own inner circles is their business, but if you are not in that circle its not really yours ... |
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Isn't it strange that you are arguing a negative?
If even in their inner circles they are negative and disrespectful it only keeps the negative thinking active. The language and actions within, transfer to the society as a reinforcement of negative. The result is a constant perception of a need to defend. Those statements I just wrote in this post have no reference to any specific group. Did you see it as a general statement or did you superimpose a group so you can take offense? If so, it indicates a similar mentality to the intent of this OP. Making a negative out of a neutral statement indicates there are issues within, that reinforce negative thinking. |
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it is if it is posting to social media about how another's choice to do the same is 'whining' or having a 'poor me' mentality merely having a different opinion is fine, labeling someone else's choice to do the same as something negative, is hypocritical |
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Isn't it strange that you are arguing a negative? If even in their inner circles they are negative and disrespectful it only keeps the negative thinking active. The language and actions within, transfer to the society as a reinforcement of negative. The result is a constant perception of a need to defend. Those statements I just wrote in this post have no reference to any specific group. Did you see it as a general statement or did you superimpose a group so you can take offense? If so, it indicates a similar mentality to the intent of this OP. Making a negative out of a neutral statement indicates there are issues within, that reinforce negative thinking. umm, I dont know what post you read, but the one I responded to mentioned SPECIFICALLY mexicans and blacks. No superimposing was necessary. |
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