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Are uniforms a type of idol in our culture? It seems to me that a persons uniform becomes their identity and that identity is always assumed to be noble and worthy of reverance,,, When the uniform is that of a military person, a law officer or a firefighter, the uniform indicates that the person has agreed to put his/her life in danger for the public good. or that the person wanted a job with benefits, or a job with authority, or a job with status or a job that impressed or satisfied their family, its really hard to say,,, Despite all of that, the person has agreed to put his/her life in danger for the public good. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 05/02/17 07:55 PM
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Are uniforms a type of idol in our culture? It seems to me that a persons uniform becomes their identity and that identity is always assumed to be noble and worthy of reverance,,, When the uniform is that of a military person, a law officer or a firefighter, the uniform indicates that the person has agreed to put his/her life in danger for the public good. or that the person wanted a job with benefits, or a job with authority, or a job with status or a job that impressed or satisfied their family, its really hard to say,,, Despite all of that, the person has agreed to put his/her life in danger for the public good. and/or for a paycheck, benefits, and authority |
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What msharmony is trying to say is she's looking for men in uniform....strippers dressed in uniform that is
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I do think uniforms LOOK sexy prince,, no denying that.
IT MATTERS MORE WHAT the character of the person wearing it ends up being though,, |
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It isn't the uniform that matters but what one does while wearing it.
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The French Maid's uniform makes me salute.
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The French Maid's uniform makes me salute. Then start saluting. |
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Edited by
panchovanilla
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Wed 05/03/17 07:12 AM
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I've never idolized any uniform.
Except, maybe, the French maid. So I don't really know what the OP is carrying on about. Oh..the "hooter" uniform is pretty cool. |
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Edited by
panchovanilla
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Wed 05/03/17 07:09 AM
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It isn't the uniform that matters but what one does while wearing it. which one never knows,, just by the uniform |
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The French Maid's uniform makes me salute. yeah, that is understandable,,,, |
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I've never idolized any uniform. Except, maybe, the French maid. So I don't really know what the OP is carrying on about. Oh..the "hooter" uniform is pretty cool. don't they just wear tight shirts? I've never idolized a uniform either, which is why I am curious about such a mentality. |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Wed 05/03/17 07:58 AM
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Yes.. Lets just have police and firemen in tank tops, shorts and flip flops, or whatever they please. It gives a uniform appearance. A professional appearance.. that why it is done. It gives the sense of being part of something. Of belonging to something. I understand the reason people wear uniforms. I do not understand why merely wearing a uniform causes other people to hold someone in reverence. Part of primal instinct maybe? A man in a uniform looks very masculine. Also, what someone said: they're part of a group. Maybe a subconscious thing that indicates that the person is accepted by the group. In olden times it was quite important for survival to not hook up with an outcast. You -and thus your offspring- were safer when with someone who got respect and was accepted by the community. If the man wasn't accepted you'd likely have to be on the run and/or lacked protection of the group when attacked by another group or wild animals. I've noticed in Indonesia that whenever a man got a uniform, he suddenly felt his value went up. They'd wear huge rings which almost made it impossible for them to use their hands, and not just 1 ring, walk around with puffed chests, started to behave as if they had authority. Mostly unpleasant I must say. This wasn't necessarily the case with police or military. If they got a parking guard uniform, not anything significant, you saw this behaviour the strongest. Apparently it made them feel more masculine. As if their worth suddenly had gone up. I've not seen it that over the top here, but I'm guessing men feel more of a man when in a uniform and somehow start exuding a different vibe. Maybe it is the 'being accepted by the group' for them too? |
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as a primal instinct, is a good explanation,,,
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I've worn uniforms most of my adult life.
Military uniforms were a thing. Looking sharp was required to kill people. Being a lifelong mechanic I wore uniforms in nearly every job I ever held. In a truck shop, looking good is not the reason for the uniform. Uniforms were there so you didn't trash out your own clothing. Ya get pretty filthy working in diesel fuel and engine oil and chassis grease. Uniforms were provided by a uniform service. That service included laundry. It allowed us to get as dirty as needed without the issue of having to buy new clothes all the time. Coveralls are okay but in 100+ deg heat inside a truck shop in the summer they are not practical. We were even issued work tee-shirts. I do like women in uniforms. |
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Here's the basics of uniforms, for this application:
1. They represent what your particular society has told you they represent. For some people, that means that they represent positive authority; for some, they represent oppression. 2. In general, the people who ESTABLISH the uniforms, and allow or refuse to allow individuals to wear them, usually TRY to hold such people to standards which can be relied upon. You will, if you watch yourself, realize that only SOME uniforms move you to have a positive impression of someone. Many Garbage collectors wear uniforms, but few people think "hot sex treat" or "pillar of the community" when they see someone in them, even if the uniform is new, and neatly pressed. This is because each uniform includes inherent messages which we are trained to respond to. 3. That means that what makes uniforms impress you (one way or the other) isn't because of the fact that it is a uniform, it is because of the meaning you have been taught to ascribe to the particular uniform. Notice that if you meet someone in a uniform that you know they haven't "earned," such as at a costume party, the most you are likely to think is that they might be good for a fake experience. Lots of people go through the same basic stages of dealing with uniforms: they start out by buying into the social training, and are friendly and open to the officially "good" uniforms," and react negatively or not at all to the non-"good" ones. Then they go through experiences which show them that uniforms can't be counted on, and spend some time angrily venting about how horrible society is for having mislead them. Finally, they realize that they have to deal with uniforms the way they deal with pretty much everything, and proceed cautiously and responsibly. |
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Edited by
mysticalview21
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Fri 05/05/17 07:15 AM
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Are uniforms a type of idol in our culture? It seems to me that a persons uniform becomes their identity and that identity is always assumed to be noble and worthy of reverance,,, whether the uniform is fireman, policeman, or military, I have always found this odd. whatever occupation one decides to hold, in a uniform or not, they are an individual first, and individuals may or may not be noble,,,or worthy of reverance,, what job they hold does not define that anymore than walking into a garage defines a person as a car,,, Why do we place such a reverence upon people in some occupations, especially 'uniform' occupation without knowing ANYTHING about them individually? I always thought it was for the respect of someone ... who may have or still do wear them ... but seems that has changed in different areas ... ok long time ago I was a security guard ... in a huge co. if you worked there no matter who you where you have to wear your identification card around your neck ...to get in and show me ... not many tested me but it was part of my job to tell them know u can not come in with out it ... but call up to someone to sign you in for the day ... once every one got use to me ... and new i took my job serous I had know problem they showed them all the time ... lets say they did not like showing then becouse I learn who worked there in that building ... but always had to have the card anyway ... boy the faces I got when they had to show me ...lmao but did not feel it was my ego... I was just doing the job ... but now is different with those in uniform some are not who they say they are on here all the time or off ... so u have to be careful ... |
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It's interesting how fashion and social identity becomes uniform
ie..after "The Wild One" came out in the early 50s...and again with The Ramones in the 70s... ....Jeans and leather became the "uniform" of non-conformity. (an obvious oxymoron) |
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It's interesting how fashion and social identity becomes uniform ie..after "The Wild One" came out in the early 50s...and again with The Ramones in the 70s... ....Jeans and leather became the "uniform" of non-conformity. (an obvious oxymoron) Similar with punk rock, skinheads, ,new wave and goths, I don't think there is anything like that now? |
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It's interesting how fashion and social identity becomes uniform ie..after "The Wild One" came out in the early 50s...and again with The Ramones in the 70s... ....Jeans and leather became the "uniform" of non-conformity. (an obvious oxymoron) conforming to non conformity,,,lol would make a great self improvement manual ,,,,, |
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