Everyone especialy the courts always favuor the women.....just coz she gave birth to the child dosent mean that a guy dosent feel any less and women alway put on the crocodile tears for the judge to sway the decision...women are just devious and cunning i fu****g hate my life ,,,she is my flesh and blood just as much as she is her's...

Judges will see through crocodile tears. They also see anger and where would you put a kid? With a pissed off Dad or a whiny Mom? Easy choice. Stay cool, don't react angrily! Instead of being mad, why not tap into how much you miss your kid and shed a few tears of your own? Not fake ones mind you, and some men don't have it in 'em. Think it shows weakness. Just a thought.

r u guyz freinds if not then fight dirty

Ok when ever I get a lawyer again he's going to be getting an earful then. I'll save it for him/her, I'm not sure I could shed tears though even though I do feel bad for him since his mom is such a nut case. I would like to see him have an actual childhood not one that where she decides he can't do anything at all.

well i have joint custody with my ex and the bastard hasn't seen his son in almost a year...he sucks and is just a check.

I WISH my boys' dad would fight for them. It kills me that he hasn't seen them in eight years. It's good for you to stand up for your kids, but are you thinking about your KIDS? Always put them first. My daughter lives with dad. She's in a better situation there. She's got epilepsy and anything stressful sets off her seizures. My two boys live with me. My boys are pretty stressful at times. Great kids, just typical boys. I'd give ANYTHING to have my daughter with me full time, but as a stand up mom, I'm thinking of HER first. Every situation is different. Being on both sides... daughter away with HER dad and boys' dad not having anything to do with them for eight years. It's easy for me to see both sides. Only advice I could give is make sure you put the kids first. If you're not there for them, who's gonna be?

Oh and PS... the courts do NOT always favor the women. Child support. I don't get any for my boys because "they can't serve him properly." He's ten grand in the hole folks. Now I pay for my daughter and if I get one week behind, I'm in court threatening to have my driver's license taken away and thrown in jail. So that's not true at all...

Allsmiles...I completely agree with you.

Ive seen both sides here. I was granted sole custody of my kids because their "Dad" and I use that term lightly is an abusive control freak...Hes not even allowed visitation..

On the other hand when I was with my ex hubby he fought like hell to get custody of his daughter..He spent 20,000 dollars and 18 months in court but he got her..He fought hard and it was all uphill but you can win..

If the situation your child is in now is a bad one CPS will see it and so will the judge. Just remember like everyone has said, makes sure you doing it because its whats best for your kid, not out of anger or being vindictive to your ex..

Dont give up...if you fight and lose at least the kid knows you cared because you fought!!

Maybe the courts side with the mother about 90% of the time because only about 10% of the fathers even care enough to want their children full-time. Most of the time the custody battle is less about the kids and more about beating your ex. Time and time again it has been much too easy (legally speaking) for men to just walk away from their children and leave the mother holding the bag to fend for herself and the child/children.

if i knew them what i know now

i would have taken the kids

on a trip b4 the divorce

and never came back

not that anyone should do this

lol

Is it possible to work out an agreement with the mother at all? I agreed to 50/50 custody with my son's dad and it works out great. Of course when we first split talking this stuff over was difficult, it always is, but maybe there is a way to discuss it with her and work it out...the courts are always happy to grant what the parents work out and really like to see them try it. It sometimes takes biting our tongues in order tokeep the peace and work together for the best interest of the child.

very well said mychelb, whats best for the kids.!!!

FYI the Mother does'nt allways get custody.

It makes me sick how people fight over their children!
What is in the best interest of the children is what is
important! Not so and so wants this or that. parent's need to
put aside their differences for their children...
Unless it is a case of abuse- then that is a different story.
Sadly any ******* can have kid's these days- and many should'nt.

The sad thing is I know alot of people who have custody and
really should'nt...

JMO

I don't want to work anything out. It doesn't matter what we agree on anyways because she is going to do what she wants. Good example she pulled him out of daycare without even telling me and part of my support goes to that daycare. I've had enough of her s*it and she's not doing what's in his best interest so I'm going all out on this one, f*ck her.

lol

It makes me happy to see so many men who give a rats ass about their children. A few of my friends have had bad luck with their ex's wanting anything to do with the kids.

Good luck to you in your battle!

I think it is great that so many men care about and want their kids also. I have been on both sides here and can tell you that playing games with the women who are already playing them only makes it worse. If you keep it straight and do things the way the JUDGE not her has said and she does not then you can take her to court for contempt and you can file again for them to relook at the custody issue. But you will not get it if you hold on to anger and speak ill of their mother. Regardless of the issues between the two of you, you are their father and she is their mother and for that and that reason alone a bit of respect can go a long way in the courts eyes. As hard as it is to do, my husband that I am currently seperated from had a doozy of an ex..she played games all kinds of games and so did he, all it did was hurt my stepson. Now they have 50/50 custody and neither pays support, once they worked together they were able to work things out.