Can't speak on behalf of every man, but personally I would prepare for possible outcomes that's worth being ready for.
If she wants to come by my place, there better be clean. If we're watching a movie, I better have the movie stuff under control and if sex happens then the bed better be clean.
If none of those things happen then I've got a clean apartment, movies ready to watch and a clean bed to sleep in :)

It's not that I'm preparing for these things to happen because that's what I'm aiming for, it's just that it's a lot better to be ready for it if it should happen.

To answer your question a bit clearer, sex is definitely a topic among many others in my head. However not a priority.
My priority would be to make her smile, laugh and have a good time because she would obviously be my type otherwise I wouldn't date her.
I like to take it one thing at a time.

.. looks at his wrist watch come on chop chop times ticking lol

it's also "how many more beers i gotta buy to get this done?"

does it matter what the men want??? I think its what can the man have???

Your ideology, it's perfectly okay for women to use men for a free meal.
But, god forbid, a man dare want sex on a first date.

Rather it's a woman "using" a man, for a free meal. Or, a man "using" a woman for sex... Using is still using, regardless of what a person "uses" another for.

... And, just because a person withholds sex, be it out of "decency", or self righteousness, doesn't mean, they aren't getting banged by a half dozen other people.

As with all opinions, yours, mine, and everyone else's... Different, doesn't make a person wrong, it simply makes them different.

all relationships are "using" someone for something... compfort, money, companionship... it all boils down to the "me" factor, which is not a bad thing, it's just the way it is...

but if a woman just wants dinner, just to get out of the house, whatever, i just would like to know what she's thinking beforehand... thats where the problems start, no communication and both are wondering whats going on...

Mightymo and No1
You both come across as hard core males but I bet you both are like marshmallow on the inside. Don't worry your secrets are safe with me.
Need to check hands first.

Rio
Thanks for your input.

wtf..if a woman just wants to get out house or go out to eat she can get in damn car and go...


if a woman is using a man just for the meal? then she must be one broke summbeech..


in which case offering to pay for things that do not appear on the menu might actually be what she has in mind

Personally I rarely.. take a woman out on the hopes of getting her in bed...
.. I take her out because I want to see her.. I want to hear how her day is going.. what her interests are.... what her likes and dislikes are.. really connect with her.. take her for a nice meal a glass of wine somewhere... and maybe before dinner take her out and buy her something nice like a dress or perhaps even some shoes.. and then take her to the lingerie store.. help her pick out some lingerie... oh not that I want to see her in this lingerie.. oh no no that would be wrong of me..
again I'm not interested in being intimate at all..!!... I'm just happy to see her. .Entertainer her.. pay for her meals.. clothing and lingerie... let her know she is a beautiful woman.. and I am just happy to spend time with her..
but never in a sexual way..No no... I mean after all sex isn't that important.... what's really important is keeping her happy.... keeping her feeling like the most beautiful woman on the planet. .. and when she is ready and comfortable and feels. secure in our relationship.. And has stopped worrying about her few extra..Curves..
.... then and only then hopefully she will allow me the pleasure of making love to her.. oh what a beautiful beautiful gift....
..

I guess gone were the gentlemen of the good old days who really showed respect for women and were hesitant to even just touch a single finger.....most men nowadays are busy thinking of how to lay a woman on their first date. Just make a score, not even bothering to really get to know the person well before sex. Feelings or love seemed not important anymore in engaging with sex, just like a one night stand or picking up a girl in a bar, hitting it with somebody with eyes closed, no emotions involved at all.

If someone is really serious to further the relationship with a girl, it shouldn't start from the physical connection but rather emotional connection. The man should be willing to patiently wait for the right time when both are emotionally, mentally and physically ready to experience great sex . Though, I respect others who engage in it on first date, if they can take that its ok maybe because they are the physical type. But for me, I would prefer to take it slow and see if we both hit it then I guess what's meant to happen when we both feel like doing it,then it will just happen but definitely not on first date.

3 forms of communication...
television
telephone
tellawoman...

Oh my gosh that was one if the most beautiful things I have read
Tears flowing down
I knew you were all heart.
Thanks No1

Wow so moved.

OMG... you're kicked outa the mens club for this...

ya but I think he earned platinum membership status in the BS of the year club

Oh how right you are lol

yea, he deserves an award for it...

Was I flipping sucked in again?

Rellly I thought the sarcasm! came Across pretty clearly.. ..

.. but yes it does seem a little unfair women expect us to open the door for them !..pay for the meal the drinks..
and don't give me that ...I pay for my own drinks and dinner BS..
because let me tell you I Take a lot of women out for drinks and dinner and I'm not talking the average woman I'm talking some pretty sophisticated high class women.. and I have yet had one of them reach for the bill and pay for it..Although they did pay me back with sex at the end of the evening

just disregard the average woman parts because we all know women are not average lol .. just to reiterate what I said every woman I have taken out not a one has offered to pay for the dinner but yes they all offer to reimburse me in some other way lol