if she is amazing she won't be easy. If she is easy won't be amazing

"amazing" is an added benefit... just getting it is the main victory...

So what you're saying is !..don't expect sex on the first date...? .. so how about the second date can I expect sex then? .. please pretty please

I think this is such a turn off for a man to think this is approiate. What ever happened to Asking a lady out to dinner? I run into these men quite often. Then if you dare say something they say oh you don't like sex. I think it is an insult to do this to a good woman. No one wants to be used and it is such a dead give away that is all their after. For if they really wanted to get to know you they would show you some respect.

yes it is a victory all in the right time.

Yes oP.. on behalf of the brotherhood of men.. I apologize for some of my brothers lack of good manners.. and gentlemanly behavior.. . I have heard some of the horror stories that women have gone through on first and second dates.. from men that are a little too eager.. to jump from the table to the bedroom hell they don't even wait for the bedroom as soon as you get in the car or in the parking lot there zippers are down..

all men want sex

I mean when ya think about it..isnt that a part of why they would be interested in dating in first place


and in all honesty it is somewhere in the mix for women too


just depends on timing..on when you feel comfortable
for some it is only if they have been dating quite awhile or they feel loved and secure

for others it is whenever they come across a willing partner

why should women get a free dinner? the "chance" for some sex??

why wait that long? she should be giving us a handy under the dinner table...

If she's good at it, she'll be amazing.

oh man this gonna turn into one of those 'you should just call an escort service' threads now


ain't a damn thing wrong with a woman knowing her own comfort level
and expectations when it comes to dating




if she is upfront and honest with him
and he is aware that she is not a one nighter


then if he crosses the line or tries to on first date


should have no problems with watching her azz as she walks away

.. .. in order to get the handy you have to make them believe you are not interested .. in only having sex..
first you have to feed them a lot of blah blah blah yada yada yada..
and then oddly enough they can't keep their hands off you..Lol

If they don't want sex the day you meet they are either gay or not interested in you.

Other than that, it's about controlling behavior hormones are trying to influence.

There's no turning them off and on.


If she is amazing, IMO, she won't worry about labels or judgments from strangers (like "easy") and will make decisions somewhat rationally, while also emotionally mindful, about what she wants, and how serious the risks and consequences are to fulfilling that.


You never know who you will ultimately connect with.
They may be the easiest person in the world...to you, because you're extremely compatible, especially in inherent communication skills.

If she is "easy" for everyone and anyone, she probably won't be an amazing connection.
If she is "easy" for you, but not everyone and anyone, she may be an amazing connection.


I think I would have a lot more respect for a woman that is "easy" because that's what she honestly wants to do than for a woman that isn't "easy" because she's come up with specious arbitrary rules about a sex timeline defining who she is as a person.

So what makes you think that if she gives you sex when she meets you that she won't be giving it to someone else if she meets them? How do you trust someone like that? You be at work and she be out meeting someone else having sex same day. I never knew a man would want a woman like that unless he is only after sex. Back in the day when I was dating before I got married a man is gonna take it if she gives it. But it wasn't the kind of woman he wanted to settle down with. he wanted a good woman to share hs life with. Makes good sense. So I don't get it.

because that takes too much effort
most dont want to put in the time for a good woman

. so what's the difference between a good woman and a frigid woman

just because a woman does not put out on first date or second or third does not make her frigid ..means she is looking for more than just sex with a man


means she is waiting to see how they feel about each other
if there is a connection, communication, affection first



most men know this answer already
especially the ones who are divorced
and it tends to piss them off


which is why some go for the young ones who may be easier to convince
or the ones who do not have issues with casual flings


sheeet they don't even wanna open car door for ya, spring for dinner or buy ya flowers

they just wanna know if you will be spread eagle on table by dessert

... and a good woman... same thing applies I guess..

Key words here..."Back when I was dating" Times have changed dramactically.. Some may not like it but the ones who would be considered prisses on this site ...look how long they have been here looking lol After awhile maybe its not the ones being searced for issues holding them back but..the one searching..

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