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Another teen shot IN THE BACK in Ferguson MO. Only this time he was in his FedEX work uniform, allegedly saving money for college since he had just graduated high school. One gun isn't enough when you shoot someone in the back, you need three guns and some crack.
https://www.rt.com/usa/313070-police-killed-black-teen/ The St Louis County police Cheif continues to defend the officer(s). The reason for the raid conducted was probable cause, it was a bad neighborhood. The 'police' witness reports Mansour THREW AWAY a gun before he was shot dead. Throwing away a gun isn't life threatening. This didn't call for him to be shot or killed. Cops have shoes, they can run, they also have cars if the suspect is too fast to catch and back-up units that can be called in if the suspect somehow gives them the slip. They have helicopters to aid in surveillance and Ferguson is pretty far from Mexico and Canada. Another teen shot dead, still NO BODYCAM FOOTAGE. Never did get an answer about those (former) officer Darren Wilson t-shirts, perhaps (former) officer Brad Miller of Texas would be more your speed? Or (former) officer Ray Tensing of Cincinnati University Police, or (former) officer Randall Kerrick of Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police? Would you wear their pictures on t-shirts in public and sell them? |
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https://www.rt.com/usa/313070-police-killed- From your link... black-teen/ "" While the autopsy could not determine whether way Ball-Bey might have been twisting around when he was shot, “he certainly wasn't facing, his chest wasn't facing the officers," Graham said."" The 'police' witness reports Mansour THREW AWAY a gun before he was shot dead. Throwing away a gun Also from your link... "" One of the men, later identified as Ball-Bey, reportedly pointed a gun at the officers, who shot four times in his direction. A handgun recovered from Ball-Bey had one round in the chamber and 13 more in the magazine."" Another teen shot IN THE BACK in Ferguson Nice....going all emotional by putting "in the back" in all caps. Fact is, you have no idea of the positioning of any of the officers. He couldve pointed his weapon at one officer, and another, 10 feet away, couldve dropped him with one in the back....perfectly justifiable. Here...have another "fail".... |
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in Texas, if you kill someone while robbing them, your up for the death penalty... just using a gun gets you an extra 25 years on top of any other sentence... Two questions, 1. Will that extra 25 years apply to (former) officer Brad Miller? His victim was unarmed. High on something but unarmed. 2. Wasn't the illegal immigrant who killed the girl in San Francisco who was deported 5 times and had several felonies... Wasn't he incarcerated in Texas? Why isn't he still in jail in Texas? |
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in Texas, if you kill someone while robbing them, your up for the death penalty... just using a gun gets you an extra 25 years on top of any other sentence... Two questions, 1. Will that extra 25 years apply to (former) officer Brad Miller? His victim was unarmed. High on something but unarmed. 2. Wasn't the illegal immigrant who killed the girl in San Francisco who was deported 5 times and had several felonies... Wasn't he incarcerated in Texas? Why isn't he still in jail in Texas? why are you asking? neither were black... |
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Also from your link... "" One of the men, later identified as Ball-Bey, reportedly pointed a gun at the officers, who shot four times in his direction. A handgun recovered from Ball-Bey had one round in the chamber and 13 more in the magazine."" Yes this is from the link I provided. I didn't write it. Ball-Bey -----comma----- reportedly pointed a gun at the OFFICERS ----comma----- WHO shot in four times in HIS direction. Poorly placed commas can confuse the reader. There was 1 Mansour Ball-Bey. There was more than 1 officer involved in the raid. HIS is refers to 1 male. Their refers to more than 1 person. OFFICERS refers to more than 1 officer. A raid is conducted by more than 1 officer. The OFFICERS involved in the raid would not be referred to as HIM or HIS, hence the commas separating the sentence to avoid confusion. You misread. Common mistake, understandable. |
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Also from your link... "" One of the men, later identified as Ball-Bey, reportedly pointed a gun at the officers, who shot four times in his direction. A handgun recovered from Ball-Bey had one round in the chamber and 13 more in the magazine."" Yes this is from the link I provided. I didn't write it. Ball-Bey -----comma----- reportedly pointed a gun at the OFFICERS ----comma----- WHO shot in four times in HIS direction. Poorly placed commas can confuse the reader. There was 1 Mansour Ball-Bey. There was more than 1 officer involved in the raid. HIS is refers to 1 male. Their refers to more than 1 person. OFFICERS refers to more than 1 officer. A raid is conducted by more than 1 officer. The OFFICERS involved in the raid would not be referred to as HIM or HIS, hence the commas separating the sentence to avoid confusion. You misread. Common mistake, understandable. Your rationale is that cops shouldnt fire unless fired upon.....and then only fire once. Boy, youre racking up the "fails" tonight. |
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Apparently there is a witness that came forward not affiliated with the police saying he saw Bey running after he was shot and saw him throw the gun before he collapsed.
We will see.. |
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If he had a gun, even if he's runnin away, he is still a threat on the street. Thus, a target. Dead thug.
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I am confused... What happens if a black officer kills a black civilian and vice versa? it is still BLUE on black crime, the uniform AGAINST the 'threat' if it is black(or any other color) on blue, SWIFT justice is dispensed in the name of the officer,,, |
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Edited by
devildog123
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Fri 08/21/15 07:08 PM
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Are we to think that because he was wearing a Fed Ex uniform he was not carrying a gun. That uniform somehow should be a factor in an decision... and frankly even as a place in this conversation.
should it have went down like this.. " Let him go Stan... its only the Fed Ex guy" |
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http://redrocktribune.com/9-year-old-girl-shot-dead-in-ferguson-no-riots-no-protests/ 9-YEAR-OLD GIRL SHOT DEAD IN FERGUSON; NO RIOTS, NO PROTESTS Posted By: Red Rock Editorial Staff August 20, 2015 Black lives don't matter when the killer is not a white cop. A 9-year-old girl was shot dead as she did her homework in Ferguson on Tuesday night, but the same community that rioted in response to Michael Brown's death was nowhere to be seen. The difference? Jamyla Bolden was killed in a drive-by shooting and not by a white police officer. The father of Jamyla Bolden said the girl was in her bed doing homework inside a home in the 9200 block of Ellison when she was shot around 9:30 Tuesday night. Her mother was also shot in the leg, reports KMOV 4. Pastor Willis Johnson commented on the tragedy by emphasizing that all lives matter. There needs to be a reevaluation of human life: [whether] black, white, young, seasoned, whether in Ferguson, or areas considered affluent,said Johnson.This has to stop. This epidemic of lost life under false pretense and of no real significant reason has to change. KMOV.com black lives DO matter the difference is when black citizens kill black citizens, the JUSTICE system seeks justice for the victim but when OFFICERS do it,, the JUSTICE system seems to seek to excuse them instead  yea right. Where did that happen? Officers kill thugs, black and white and brown, so that the thugs don't kill them instead or someone else. what is meant by where did that happen? blacks being brought to justice for crime? look in our prison system police being JUSTIFIED in shooting unarmed civilian, disproportionately black ? it happens all over america with a ruling of 'justified shooting' officers don't only kill 'thugs' who are going to kill someone,,,, they kill drug users, or drug sellers , or knife carriers, or resistant suspects,,,etc,,, get out of the cave and open your eyes,, lest it be you or your loved one someday,, perhaps you are fine with paying cops to be judge, jury, and executioner,, but thankfully many others are not,,, |
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Black parents and clergy politicians and other concerned citizens have been trying to get the drugs and guns out of their schools and neighborhoods for DECADES. We have been mourning and burying children for DECADES. ___________________________________________________________________ Well, one way to cut down on the guns and drugs in your schools and neighborhoods is to teach your children not to carry guns and drugs in the first place. That starts with the parenting. Fathers play a big role in how their sons ( the majority of the gun toting & drug toting young men) grow up. They are supposed to be role models... set a example for their sons. At the very least be there. But in the black community 72% of children grow up in a single parent household... 72%. They are raised by the mother... not the father. He's not around. They certainly know how to father children.. that's for sure. No problem there, but just don't know how to stick around to support and raise them. And after all.... isn't that what fathers are supposed to do?.. raise they kids.. teach them right from wrong.. be a role model?. Well, it appears 3 out of 4 in the black community.... do not change that and see what the results are. Cops can't change that, neither can white folks, neither can the government. It is solely the black community responsibility as is the ramifications of their offspring's actions. I agree, parents need to be more involved. I want to make a correction to a common error in logic though. the 72 percent statistic is not a reflection of fathers 'not being there',, it is more a reflection of fathers not being 'married' to the mother I dont know how many fathers are actually 'not around' as Im unaware of such a study,,,, Im not even sure how many 'married' fathers(of any race) are actually 'around' in the sense of teaching their kids either |
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Also from your link... "" One of the men, later identified as Ball-Bey, reportedly pointed a gun at the officers, who shot four times in his direction. A handgun recovered from Ball-Bey had one round in the chamber and 13 more in the magazine."" Yes this is from the link I provided. I didn't write it. Ball-Bey -----comma----- reportedly pointed a gun at the OFFICERS ----comma----- WHO shot in four times in HIS direction. Poorly placed commas can confuse the reader. There was 1 Mansour Ball-Bey. There was more than 1 officer involved in the raid. HIS is refers to 1 male. Their refers to more than 1 person. OFFICERS refers to more than 1 officer. A raid is conducted by more than 1 officer. The OFFICERS involved in the raid would not be referred to as HIM or HIS, hence the commas separating the sentence to avoid confusion. You misread. Common mistake, understandable. Your rationale is that cops shouldnt fire unless fired upon.....and then only fire once. Boy, youre racking up the "fails" tonight. That spin in particular is called English. To be specific, grammar, punctuation, journalism. Journalists tend to use English in America. American journalism about crimes tend to involve police and witnesses sometimes. Some witnesses tend to give statements to police, and sometimes to the media as well. I gave you a link, I didn't edit what the author wrote. And invictus, you're restating what I said. The " ' police' witness" refers to the the police having a witness. In a town where the cops have shot down how many black teens and half the town has open warrants... Policing for profit. Ferguson MO, CNN. Ferguson is a hotspot for police involved shootings where lots of black teens, some armed some unarmed some questionable, are dying. How many police have been shot in these cases? Any? Any BODYCAM FOOTAGE? Any DASHCAM FOOTAGE? That would be beneficial to defend the killers. |
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I gave you Nah you didnt.....you just spun the words to mean what you wanted them to mean. And you attempted to use emotion....i.e. "IN THE BACK"...to further your agenda.....typical lib move..."ignore any other ways that could happen, only consider ways that would highlight my beliefs". Congrats, you should be receiving a Lib Medal of Honor soon. a link, I didn't edit what the author wrote. Enjoy..... Oh, btw...Mansur Bail-Bey's father has begun the "he neva dindu nuffin" speech... "" But his dad said Ball-Bey had the guns only to act in music videos, not because he was using them to commit crimes."" From Mansur's Instagram acct....  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-killed-st-louis-police-not-criminal-family-article-1.2331863 |
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dang, he kind of looks like my son too,, no joking
and I can see my son getting to a point where he felt a need to maintain an 'image' in videos, cause he does music I doubt he would have anything actually loaded in that scenario though |
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Edited by
germanchoclate1981
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Fri 08/21/15 08:44 PM
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If he had a gun, even if he's runnin away, he is still a threat on the street. Thus, a target. Dead thug. The CNN ticker did say that the police are looking for other witnesses who ran from the scene in the course of an investigation. Maybe -IDK- one or more of those people who fled the scene was/were the drug dealer(s). Dd, the relevant point of HIM being in his FedEX uniform is that this 18 year old, in arguably one of the worst places in America to be a black teen, had a job. He also wasn't the only person who fled the scene, as the St Louis Cheif of Police stated they are investigating others who fled the scene. In a(n) (organized properly conducted) sting operation police SWAT SBI... cover the exits sometimes using helicopters for aerial tracking and guidance of ground patrols. Texas seems to have gotten it right, they immediately suspended Miller, investgated and handed the investgation over to the FBI soon after firing the rouge rookie former officer Brad Miller. He ignored the assessment phase and took it upon himself to go in alone and shoot the suspect when there was a perimeter set up and more support on the way. When one officer goes rouge in an isolatedincedent that concludes with an unjust death, the actions that Dept took sends a message to the public and the police that they hold Authorities to a higher standard and won't allow vigilantism by anyone. Two words that describe different operations: Sting- directed, orderly, known objective and poi(s) Raid- dangerous, messy, speculated but unknown, possible objective and or poi(s) This was a raid. |
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in Texas, if you kill someone while robbing them, your up for the death penalty... just using a gun gets you an extra 25 years on top of any other sentence... Two questions, 1. Will that extra 25 years apply to (former) officer Brad Miller? His victim was unarmed. High on something but unarmed. 2. Wasn't the illegal immigrant who killed the girl in San Francisco who was deported 5 times and had several felonies... Wasn't he incarcerated in Texas? Why isn't he still in jail in Texas? why are you asking? neither were black... Exactly. Answers? |
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Ok Peter Parker, get Cyclops and Robocop on a conference call and have them analyze the background in that photo and how many laws he broke being photographed with a gun. Also have them run the serials through the nonexistent National registry to see who owns the gun and whether or not it was reported stolen and by who.
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in Texas, if you kill someone while robbing them, your up for the death penalty... just using a gun gets you an extra 25 years on top of any other sentence... Two questions, 1. Will that extra 25 years apply to (former) officer Brad Miller? His victim was unarmed. High on something but unarmed. 2. Wasn't the illegal immigrant who killed the girl in San Francisco who was deported 5 times and had several felonies... Wasn't he incarcerated in Texas? Why isn't he still in jail in Texas? why are you asking? neither were black... Exactly. Answers? no, and i don't know... |
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Black parents and clergy politicians and other concerned citizens have been trying to get the drugs and guns out of their schools and neighborhoods for DECADES. We have been mourning and burying children for DECADES. ___________________________________________________________________ Well, one way to cut down on the guns and drugs in your schools and neighborhoods is to teach your children not to carry guns and drugs in the first place. That starts with the parenting. Fathers play a big role in how their sons ( the majority of the gun toting & drug toting young men) grow up. They are supposed to be role models... set a example for their sons. At the very least be there. But in the black community 72% of children grow up in a single parent household... 72%. They are raised by the mother... not the father. He's not around. They certainly know how to father children.. that's for sure. No problem there, but just don't know how to stick around to support and raise them. And after all.... isn't that what fathers are supposed to do?.. raise they kids.. teach them right from wrong.. be a role model?. Well, it appears 3 out of 4 in the black community.... do not change that and see what the results are. Cops can't change that, neither can white folks, neither can the government. It is solely the black community responsibility as is the ramifications of their offspring's actions. I agree, parents need to be more involved. I want to make a correction to a common error in logic though. the 72 percent statistic is not a reflection of fathers 'not being there',, it is more a reflection of fathers not being 'married' to the mother I dont know how many fathers are actually 'not around' as Im unaware of such a study,,,, Im not even sure how many 'married' fathers(of any race) are actually 'around' in the sense of teaching their kids either http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/12/11/roland.martin/index.html?_s=PM:US Interesting article from one black journalist. But when said by a white person.. somehow it is wrong. |
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