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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. Disagree. I know of men that would rather stay home, cook, clean, take care of kids, etc then go to work. While the workload may be equivalent in early years, come school age the work is very minimal for the stay at home spouse. |
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JOHNN111 should get paid for reading this thread!
 
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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. |
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gawd is this still going on like war n peace
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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. Estelle, For whatever reason you chose a man to be in your life that according to you does nothing for you or his child and according to you works all of 4 days per month. If that is true I would label him as a loser. But again, that was your choice. Your decision. Why you made that choice is anyone guess... but you did. You chose to have this type person in your life And now you have gone on a never ending tirade of men in general. Somehow we all got lumped into your bad decision. Your bad decision, Estelle.. not a entire genders bad decision... yours But you are still there.. still in that situation.. a little strange.. wouldn't you say? |
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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. Estelle, you can't FORCE someone to be a good husband or father...Just because YOU WANT IT THAT WAY.....  That's not how it works...Your job is to worry about yourself and being a better person. THAT's what attracts other good people.... |
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I think you should avoid having children. Also, there is nothing disrespectful with viewing a man as the main provider when there are children. Your views are skewed not mine. Estelle, again I beg to disagree with you.... you seem to have a really warped (or skewed) outlook on what makes a wife and/or mother. No, I don't. Being a full time or part time mother is not an occupation. It is a commitment. Mingle2 asks for an 'occupation' so I filled it in as honestly as I could (not so some jerks could insult me), it's not my preferred word for being a mother, but complain to Mingle2 not me. And you're wrong, motherhood is definitely an occupation, most often it is overtime work. An occupation is where you are paid to do a job, and for that, you would have to have been a 'surrogate mother' to have your baby, and then have that baby taken away from you, because you would have been commissioned to do just that....bear that child. Fine. I will educate you about the definition of the word occupation (also hope 'Blondie' reads this...by the way she is actually a brunette why don't you pick on her for misrepresenting her hair color?) Here is the definition for you: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/occupation Notice 'stay-at-home mom' is used as an example of an occupation. When you have a child, whether it is within or without a marriage, you made a commitment to that child that you bore to provide, care and protect him/her as your offspring. The father (you forgot about him) also has a commitment to the child, in most cases this means he does most if not all of the providing. This is especially true when the children are very young as in my case. As a mother by nature....it should come instinctively, without ulterior motives.... a mother will go thru' a lot just to do that, without looking for gains. Again. Read above. This is not about looking for gains and ulterior motives, it's about the father of the child being held accountable by the mother of the child which I instinctively protect. When the man/husband/partner/absent father fails to provide for whatever reasons, a mother will find her own ways to provide without complains.....without whining, without looking for praises/rewards, because she is the mother. The man can fail to provide but the woman can't complain, that is very double standard of you to say. Thanks. No a double standard would be if the man could complain about the woman not providing but the woman not complain about the man not providing. How about the man stay home and take car of the kids and the women earn the money? She can still do that. It's called working from home on the computer. Probably just like she's doing. Writing agendas. |
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Being a mom is an occupation. You are very disrespectful about that, maybe if you have a child one day you will understand how much work it is compared to your career. Whatever other jobs I do, I don't call it my occupation because for me being a mom is more important than any other job I've ever done or will ever do. I think you should avoid having children. Also, there is nothing disrespectful with viewing a man as the main provider when there are children. Your views are skewed not mine. Estelle, again I beg to disagree with you.... you seem to have a really warped (or skewed) outlook on what makes a wife and/or mother. No, I don't. Being a full time or part time mother is not an occupation. It is a commitment. Mingle2 asks for an 'occupation' so I filled it in as honestly as I could (not so some jerks could insult me), it's not my preferred word for being a mother, but complain to Mingle2 not me. And you're wrong, motherhood is definitely an occupation, most often it is overtime work. An occupation is where you are paid to do a job, and for that, you would have to have been a 'surrogate mother' to have your baby, and then have that baby taken away from you, because you would have been commissioned to do just that....bear that child. Fine. I will educate you about the definition of the word occupation (also hope 'Blondie' reads this...by the way she is actually a brunette why don't you pick on her for misrepresenting her hair color?) Here is the definition for you: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/occupation Notice 'stay-at-home mom' is used as an example of an occupation. When you have a child, whether it is within or without a marriage, you made a commitment to that child that you bore to provide, care and protect him/her as your offspring. The father (you forgot about him) also has a commitment to the child, in most cases this means he does most if not all of the providing. This is especially true when the children are very young as in my case. As a mother by nature....it should come instinctively, without ulterior motives.... a mother will go thru' a lot just to do that, without looking for gains. Again. Read above. This is not about looking for gains and ulterior motives, it's about the father of the child being held accountable by the mother of the child which I instinctively protect. When the man/husband/partner/absent father fails to provide for whatever reasons, a mother will find her own ways to provide without complains.....without whining, without looking for praises/rewards, because she is the mother. The man can fail to provide but the woman can't complain, that is very double standard of you to say. Thanks. No comments....... you bash yourself with your shallow words! |
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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. You made this bed....you've got to lie in it! You chose this guy, you chose to have a child with him, you chose to stay on. If you don't want this, then do something....not whine! And if you have started to do something about it, good... but don't whine. Your child needs a loving and strong mom....which I have no doubt you are. A lot of us women are single mothers. We coped in the best way we could because we are mothers. And likewise, for the single fathers when the mothers are absent for whatever reasons. Not all mothers are good, and not all fathers are either.......some are, some are not! |
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Edited by
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Tue 04/28/15 04:24 PM
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Oh bulls@!t, I expect a dowry of at least two cows.
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In many cultures a woman's parents were paid to seal the marriage deal, shouldn't women be paid today for this marriage deal? They are I think. That pedestal isn't cheap. I do believe that men think, if they support another person for the entire time they are together, that is a payment of sorts. But tis quid pro quo, both sides are paid handsomely if it is done right. You pay in loyalty, affection, kindness, romance, children..a never-ending list. |
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I think if the man insists the woman does not owrk or earn any money he should support and chersih and provide for her so that she does not need the job, so yes, he should shere what he has with her happily and she shoudl not be greedy, but the two should fit together and love eachother, being kind to eachother which is worth much more than money
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There is a way to solve all of this. Don't get married.
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There is a way to solve all of this. Don't get married. There is another way to solve all of this. Don't extrapolate your personal issue into an indictment of all adults of a particular gender. |
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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. Estelle, For whatever reason you chose a man to be in your life that according to you does nothing for you or his child and according to you works all of 4 days per month. If that is true I would label him as a loser. But again, that was your choice. Your decision. Why you made that choice is anyone guess... but you did. You chose to have this type person in your life And now you have gone on a never ending tirade of men in general. Somehow we all got lumped into your bad decision. Your bad decision, Estelle.. not a entire genders bad decision... yours But you are still there.. still in that situation.. a little strange.. wouldn't you say? makes one wonder if we're only hearing a very skewed version of the true story |
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makes one wonder if we're only hearing a very skewed version of the true story Probably. |
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@ blondy
throws my knickers in the air and laughs my blonde ***** off. I may have darkened the colour of the hair on my head but alas I cannot change my genetics . I was born a blonde and when I set up my profile to join mingle I was very much still blonde . No misrepresentation there . .. Ummmm but I don't expect you to take my word for It . if it is proof you seek .. Ask fox   The only misrepresention is in the claim that men should pay for a wife and recognise her role of wife and mother as a tax free occupation ....perhaps had that demand been made before having a child there would have been one of two outcomes .1 . a double double up on birth control 2. Present day utopia with no regrets . Better luck next time aye  This. @ soufie They are I think. That pedestal isn't cheap. I do believe that men think, if they support another person for the entire time they are together, that is a payment of sorts. But tis quid pro quo, both sides are paid handsomely if it is done right. You pay in loyalty, affection, kindness, romance, children..a never-ending list. and this. ......next is dating and relationships forum deselection....gee, wonder if I can quit smoking like this? 
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Hello there
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Hello there
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Dry but accurate logic:
If what a woman wants is to be thought of and dealt with as property, or as an employee, then yes, she should be paid as such. If instead, she wants to be thought of as an equal partner in life, then just as in business, no one pays anyone, and the partners team up and take on the risks and rewards together. Same for men, of course. |
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