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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. it suits the unbridled Internationalism of a George Soros! True, but I think it is mostly about getting a permanent Democratic voting block. ^^^This....Turning the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA into a socialist country will take longer than this administration has and the next one up to bat WILL play ball...In many ways, she is worse than Obama because she actually has a brain and she knows how to use it...There was a time when I championed her because I strongly believe women have the ability to lead ...Benghazi changed all that.... She has a brain, unlike those that will vote for her.   this is just as much a problem as the games politicians play citizens who attack the 'intelligence' of others who don't support the politicians they support or choose to support those they do not maybe I don't understand why people support a certain politician, but I don't immediately attack their intelligence or intentions because of it,,, having different social perspectives and priorities does not automatically equate to being less intelligent or caring less about the place we live,,, Maybe "less informed" is a better phrase? |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. it suits the unbridled Internationalism of a George Soros! True, but I think it is mostly about getting a permanent Democratic voting block. ^^^This....Turning the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA into a socialist country will take longer than this administration has and the next one up to bat WILL play ball...In many ways, she is worse than Obama because she actually has a brain and she knows how to use it...There was a time when I championed her because I strongly believe women have the ability to lead ...Benghazi changed all that.... She has a brain, unlike those that will vote for her. this is just as much a problem as the games politicians play citizens who attack the 'intelligence' of others who don't support the politicians they support or choose to support those they do not maybe I don't understand why people support a certain politician, but I don't immediately attack their intelligence or intentions because of it,,, having different social perspectives and priorities does not automatically equate to being less intelligent or caring less about the place we live,,, Maybe "less informed" is a better phrase? its better though it also assumes a lot and kind of postures that the critic is by extension 'more informed' I find in politics, people are greatly 'informed' of the things that support their point of view, and not very informed about much else,, its an extension of the all or nothing culture people are heroes OR cowards people are good OR bad instead of people are complex, with moments throughout life that will fit in all the above columns,,, , |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... again what is the 'something better' the republicans are trying to do about immigration? For an answer please refer to Metalwing's post...It's easier when you read the whole thread.... |
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Farting Cows, are to blame? That's why global temperatures are rising, because of those grass munching b*****ds and the methane they produce? Only joking, just wanted a post that's not about politics for a change!
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... |
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Farting Cows, are to blame? That's why global temperatures are rising, because of those grass munching b*****ds and the methane they produce? Only joking, just wanted a post that's not about politics for a change! Then why the hell are you hanging out here Messi?...   
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Farting Cows, are to blame? That's why global temperatures are rising, because of those grass munching b*****ds and the methane they produce? Only joking, just wanted a post that's not about politics for a change! Then why the hell are you hanging out here Messi?...   
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... again what is the 'something better' the republicans are trying to do about immigration? For an answer please refer to Metalwing's post...It's easier when you read the whole thread.... I will admit that I don't go through pages of posts everytime I contribute to a thread, I tend to respond to the current page still, I have gone back over the previous six pages and find metalwing has also not provided an answer to what the republicans (speaking of the relevant republicans since OBAMAS election) have offered to do about immigration I have already provided one of the things happening under OBAMA that was complained about allegedly him not doing,,,, I will wait for the answer to what action republicans have made to do something about immigration,,,,,,since 2009 |
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Farting Cows, are to blame? That's why global temperatures are rising, because of those grass munching b*****ds and the methane they produce? Only joking, just wanted a post that's not about politics for a change! Then why the hell are you hanging out here Messi?... That's wonderful Messi....BUT I meant why are you hanging out in a political thread!?? GO CELTICS !! |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... lol and also a DIRECT response to the complaint that he hasn't used sanctions against emploeyrs,,, |
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Farting Cows, are to blame? That's why global temperatures are rising, because of those grass munching b*****ds and the methane they produce? Only joking, just wanted a post that's not about politics for a change! well politics is the first ingredient listed for the thread,, but we sometimes get the other topics too: Current events and news |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... lol and also a DIRECT response to the complaint that he hasn't used sanctions against emploeyrs,,, Nice to know you agree with MY statement though!.. 
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... lol and also a DIRECT response to the complaint that he hasn't used sanctions against emploeyrs,,, Nice to know you agree with MY statement though!.. choosing not to continue in perspective attacks, is not the same as agreeing with perspective,,,,  |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... lol and also a DIRECT response to the complaint that he hasn't used sanctions against emploeyrs,,, Nice to know you agree with MY statement though!.. choosing not to continue in perspective attacks, is not the same as agreeing with perspective,,,, Nice try, but you're a little too late  ....Actually, I think this is one of the nicest, most informative political debates we've had on here in a long, long time...
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... lol and also a DIRECT response to the complaint that he hasn't used sanctions against emploeyrs,,, Nice to know you agree with MY statement though!.. choosing not to continue in perspective attacks, is not the same as agreeing with perspective,,,, Nice try, but you're a little too late ....Actually, I think this is one of the nicest, most informative political debates we've had on here in a long, long time... I disagree
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... Your research is just one more example that reinforces the fact that Obama's amnesty policies are strictly political.... lol and also a DIRECT response to the complaint that he hasn't used sanctions against emploeyrs,,, Nice to know you agree with MY statement though!.. choosing not to continue in perspective attacks, is not the same as agreeing with perspective,,,, Nice try, but you're a little too late ....Actually, I think this is one of the nicest, most informative political debates we've had on here in a long, long time... I disagree 
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... I guess you don't know that if you look around, millions of jobs are going to illegals. The entire construction industry is rapidly being converted to a "jobs program" for illegals. The government's own research on the jobs market shows that most of the new jobs under the Obama watch has gone to illegals. It may be a good idea to be aware of what is happening in the US instead of quoting doctored Govt BS. I bet you think his "deportation" statistics are real too! ... after counted the ones turned back at the border as deportations. "The Center for Immigration Studies released a report early Friday saying that according to government data, the net number of jobs created between 2000 to 2014 all went to immigrants, not people born in the United States. The CIS report found that over the last 14 years, people who were born in the United States held 114.8 million jobs in 2000, and held 114.7 million jobs in 2014, a drop of 127,000..." MH, you post statistics that Obama is taking action to halt immigration and ignoring all the things he has done to open the floodgates. Obama's immigration polices are even going to court for being unconstitutional! Then in other threads you comment on the need for jobs in the black communities. Where do you think those jobs went? |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... I guess you don't know that if you look around, millions of jobs are going to illegals. The entire construction industry is rapidly being converted to a "jobs program" for illegals. The government's own research on the jobs market shows that most of the new jobs under the Obama watch has gone to illegals. It may be a good idea to be aware of what is happening in the US instead of quoting doctored Govt BS. I bet you think his "deportation" statistics are real too! ... after counted the ones turned back at the border as deportations. "The Center for Immigration Studies released a report early Friday saying that according to government data, the net number of jobs created between 2000 to 2014 all went to immigrants, not people born in the United States. The CIS report found that over the last 14 years, people who were born in the United States held 114.8 million jobs in 2000, and held 114.7 million jobs in 2014, a drop of 127,000..." MH, you post statistics that Obama is taking action to halt immigration and ignoring all the things he has done to open the floodgates. Obama's immigration polices are even going to court for being unconstitutional! Then in other threads you comment on the need for jobs in the black communities. Where do you think those jobs went?  I hope you get a better answer than I got Joe...And by the way, "thanks for contributing facts alongside the usual political perspective and opinion" that is standard fare for most Obama supporters.... |
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yes, and now that the numbers have grown,, the alternatives offered by the republicans are,,,,what? the do nothing politicians critiquing and cutting down any idea that isn't theres, so busy doing so that they have no ideas and time will tell whether doing NOTHING would have been the better choice and in spite , Reagan is still hero to many and Obama is just 'chitting' on 'the country,,, Reagan didn't have a template, Obama does...He knows how much the voting numbers changed after the amnesty act in 1986 and he also knows granting amnesty to millions of illegals will further cripple the economy, but oh well, it will go far to put another liberal in office in 2016...And not agreeing with Obama does not mean "doing nothing" it mean doing something better....Yep, once again Obama chits on Americans.... Obama could have closed the border, imposed sanctions on companies hiring illegals (which probably just meant enforcing the law!), removed federal funds for the support of illegals (instead of pushing them to get food stamps!), and put the well being of US citizens over those of aliens but helping the Democrats took priority. sanctions? like this? "ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009. Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants. In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/ much is being done to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration under OBAMA,, it may be a good idea to take time to research some of it instead of assuming the worst and preaching what he 'knows' or 'could do'.... I guess you don't know that if you look around, millions of jobs are going to illegals. The entire construction industry is rapidly being converted to a "jobs program" for illegals. The government's own research on the jobs market shows that most of the new jobs under the Obama watch has gone to illegals. It may be a good idea to be aware of what is happening in the US instead of quoting doctored Govt BS. I bet you think his "deportation" statistics are real too! ... after counted the ones turned back at the border as deportations. "The Center for Immigration Studies released a report early Friday saying that according to government data, the net number of jobs created between 2000 to 2014 all went to immigrants, not people born in the United States. The CIS report found that over the last 14 years, people who were born in the United States held 114.8 million jobs in 2000, and held 114.7 million jobs in 2014, a drop of 127,000..." MH, you post statistics that Obama is taking action to halt immigration and ignoring all the things he has done to open the floodgates. Obama's immigration polices are even going to court for being unconstitutional! Then in other threads you comment on the need for jobs in the black communities. Where do you think those jobs went? conversely,,, you are ignoring all the things he has done to halt and improve and continue to post all the other things he 'could' be doing,, and blacks are pretty much where they have been long before the 'immigration problem' so, 'wherever the jobs are going',,cant be blamed on immigration,,, you choose your quotes I will choose mine I tend to trust the organization over a process to report the numbers in the process.....but what do I know sidenote: most statements with 'all' in them, cant be trusted, I dont find any such information on the actual CIS site,,,,might want to check into it
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