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Topic: Who is a bigger threat to the future of world peace?
davidben1 Joined Wed 12/05/07 Posts: 6120	Tue 01/27/15 07:29 PM
for the only thing in life and living that is ever crushed, is that which does not follow and become the big snowball rolling down the hill. then, when the snowball has stopped rolling... then, the leaders, of love, and better, do love, and lead, to better.

SpicyExcel Joined Wed 10/31/12 Posts: 1622	Tue 01/27/15 08:03 PM Edited by SpicyExcel on Tue 01/27/15 08:26 PM
Who is a bigger threat to the future of world peace? Putin or Obama? Putin has already made his advances and it may continue. We best hope the Ukrainian people are able to controll and withstand this invasion. The invasion is about Ukraine's largest port and most developed tourist area, so far. Isreal and those other countries have alway's been fighting for decades. The problem for Obama lies in a decision that was made back in 1991 or shortly afterwards. That the U.S. will assist Ukraine to defend itself. Therefore the original question was "Who is the biggest threat of world peace?" Would the correct answer not be Obama. If Obama assist Ukraine more than in a diplomatic approach and send miltary help; what will happen? Answer that question. Conclusion: Right now Obama is keeping world peace as you cut him down for doing so. War causes financial crises in a country and abroad. It all come down to Russia and if Russia want to help create a global economy and help end unjust invasions.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 01/27/15 08:17 PM
Nowadays, it's all... Deny, deny, deny! Yep, some people deny that the nation of Israel simply wants to be left alone and that some Muslims want Israel to become non-existing. It's not a very practical idea, is it Dodo_David?

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Tue 01/27/15 08:20 PM Edited by mightymoe on Tue 01/27/15 08:29 PM
Israel, i say, as all the trouble in the middle east stems from those i forgot about how you guys are anti jew over there... Israel is not the problem, it's the muslim countries surrounding Israel... that being said, my guess would be Iran, they seem to be the one that wants war the most, and since Russia is on their side now, Russia, and Iran has the best chance of starting/provoking war... Not anti-jew, it's just Israel, are central to nearly all the problems in the middle east and America have their backs, when they should've just left them to their own devices years ago, that's all! Ain't no middle eastern countries that like them either and they drag the US into all of this into the bargain! maybe, maybe not... but since that was 60-70 years ago, the your point is mute... we have to see things as they are now, not "what coulda been"... your so "damage" has been done, there is no reason to hate now... the Israelis just want to be left alone, the muslims want death to all Israelis, as noted on many occasions... how many times in the 2 years has Iran said they wanted to wipe Israel of the map? not a statement from someone that wants peace... The Iranians are all talk though? They said they were sending a 'fleet' to the US just over a year ago that consisted of nothing more than armed fishing boats to be honest. What was that going to achieve? If anyone really wants to wipe them out, then it comes at the cost of being wiped out themselves, as the Israelis are a nuclear power, as you know and would retaliate as soon as, also wiping us all out too! and that's Israels fault?... not following your logic here... i guess that means leave Israel alone? there's 31 countries with nuclear capability, Israel is just 1... http://rt.com/news/226871-israel-syria-airstrike-iran/

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Tue 01/27/15 08:33 PM
I want some of what Davids smokin

Viktor228 Joined Thu 01/29/15 Posts: 1	Thu 01/29/15 08:31 PM
The Russians have a saying "well where we do not have." And yet, and rightly so, where they are not really good and prosperous world. Putin is a worldwide evil ... I'm from Ukraine, I know whereof I speak.

davidben1 Joined Wed 12/05/07 Posts: 6120	Thu 01/29/15 09:26 PM
I want some of what Davids smokin problem is, love can't be smoked... u gotta feel it... not love for self, or 1, or 2... but rather love for all alive. then, freedom, for the "man in the iron mask", hath become as living reality... peace&smiles

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Fri 01/30/15 06:13 AM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 01/30/15 06:16 AM
Do not confuse the desires or intentions of the Israeli people with their leader(s)! Nuttyyahoo is a greedy, warmonging Zionist with about as much care for what his people wish or think as Obozo has for the American people! True peace, or democracy, in the ME is about as possible as a corruption free congress in the US Both Nutty and Obozo are a threat to world peace! Hell, all of NATO for that matter! Putin is just another player in the game of thrones as well

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Fri 01/30/15 08:13 AM
Israel, i say, as all the trouble in the middle east stems from those i forgot about how you guys are anti jew over there... Israel is not the problem, it's the muslim countries surrounding Israel... that being said, my guess would be Iran, they seem to be the one that wants war the most, and since Russia is on their side now, Russia, and Iran has the best chance of starting/provoking war... Not anti-jew, it's just Israel, are central to nearly all the problems in the middle east and America have their backs, when they should've just left them to their own devices years ago, that's all! Ain't no middle eastern countries that like them either and they drag the US into all of this into the bargain! maybe, maybe not... but since that was 60-70 years ago, the your point is mute... we have to see things as they are now, not "what coulda been"... your so "damage" has been done, there is no reason to hate now... the Israelis just want to be left alone, the muslims want death to all Israelis, as noted on many occasions... how many times in the 2 years has Iran said they wanted to wipe Israel of the map? not a statement from someone that wants peace... The Iranians are all talk though? They said they were sending a 'fleet' to the US just over a year ago that consisted of nothing more than armed fishing boats to be honest. What was that going to achieve? If anyone really wants to wipe them out, then it comes at the cost of being wiped out themselves, as the Israelis are a nuclear power, as you know and would retaliate as soon as, also wiping us all out too! gotta admit, that was funny, about the "fleet"... but they are posturers, like a kid with a new toy... but Israel is under constant attack, from every border... i know the media paints a picture of the terrible Israelis, guns against rocks, the baby killers, blah,blah,blah, but the muslims bring every action on themselves...

danglpz73 Joined Sat 01/24/15 Posts: 235	Sat 01/31/15 05:55 AM
Did u see iran's stealth fighter Qaher 313 look it up if I want a good laugh

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Sat 01/31/15 06:02 AM
Israel, i say, as all the trouble in the middle east stems from those i forgot about how you guys are anti jew over there... Israel is not the problem, it's the muslim countries surrounding Israel... that being said, my guess would be Iran, they seem to be the one that wants war the most, and since Russia is on their side now, Russia, and Iran has the best chance of starting/provoking war... Not anti-jew, it's just Israel, are central to nearly all the problems in the middle east and America have their backs, when they should've just left them to their own devices years ago, that's all! Ain't no middle eastern countries that like them either and they drag the US into all of this into the bargain! maybe, maybe not... but since that was 60-70 years ago, the your point is mute... we have to see things as they are now, not "what coulda been"... your so "damage" has been done, there is no reason to hate now... the Israelis just want to be left alone, the muslims want death to all Israelis, as noted on many occasions... how many times in the 2 years has Iran said they wanted to wipe Israel of the map? not a statement from someone that wants peace... The Iranians are all talk though? They said they were sending a 'fleet' to the US just over a year ago that consisted of nothing more than armed fishing boats to be honest. What was that going to achieve? If anyone really wants to wipe them out, then it comes at the cost of being wiped out themselves, as the Israelis are a nuclear power, as you know and would retaliate as soon as, also wiping us all out too! gotta admit, that was funny, about the "fleet"... but they are posturers, like a kid with a new toy... but Israel is under constant attack, from every border... i know the media paints a picture of the terrible Israelis, guns against rocks, the baby killers, blah,blah,blah, but the muslims bring every action on themselves... Kinda goes to the heart of "governments" and "leadership" doesn't it my friend?

messi_is_a_tim_1888 Joined Fri 11/28/14 Posts: 3309	Sat 01/31/15 06:07 AM
Did u see iran's stealth fighter Qaher 313 look it up if I want a good laugh That plane is a joke!!!!

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sat 01/31/15 06:16 AM
I agree with basha Islamic terrorists and of the 2 asked in the OP, Putin both have an "ethnci cleansing" mentality seig heil I totally know that Israel does not even belong in this discussion. That's like blaming tweety when the birdcage gets knocked over

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 01/31/15 06:20 AM


alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sat 01/31/15 07:22 AM
Did u see iran's stealth fighter Qaher 313 look it up if I want a good laugh Iran last month claimed to have successfully sent a monkey into space in a Pishgam rocket. That announcement was also accused of being faked as photographs of the monkey before and after showed two clearly different animals. Iran is sticking to its guns.

messi_is_a_tim_1888 Joined Fri 11/28/14 Posts: 3309	Sat 01/31/15 07:27 AM
Did u see iran's stealth fighter Qaher 313 look it up if I want a good laugh Iran last month claimed to have successfully sent a monkey into space in a Pishgam rocket. That announcement was also accused of being faked as photographs of the monkey before and after showed two clearly different animals. Iran is sticking to its guns. They did send a Monkey? It was the President of Irans brother that went up!

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 01/31/15 08:05 AM
When the leaders choose to make themselves bidders at an auction of popularity, their talents, in the construction of the state, will be of no service. They will become flatterers instead of legislators; the instruments, not the guides, of the people. Edmund Burke The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse. Edmund Burke Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it. Edmund Burke If Edmund Burke was alive today, I think he would consider Obama the greatest threat to peace in many years ... perhaps of the century.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sat 01/31/15 08:33 AM
Obama's weakness in the face of threats around the world is very dangerous, but long term, Putin is the bigger threat. In two years we will have a new president who will likely be a strong leader, much like we had Reagan after the political debacle that was the 1970's. Some truth in your post, but too many ifs..Not so sure I would choose Putin at this point...Look at the damage this fecking president of ours managed to create during his FIRST year in office!...His stupidity is way more dangerous to world peace than Putin's "regional" aggression...The Ukraine crisis proved it!...Obama's indifference to world affairs, his lackadaisical policies will impact long after he leaves office, making him the biggest threat to world peace....Like it or lump it, the US is still the biggest player and the disconnect between diplomatic principles and practices is so great now that it is empowering our enemies!!...The Obama administration ALLOWED the Ukraine crisis to happen...Why should anyone, especially Israel, believe anything this administration says?...We broke our promise to Ukraine without batting an eye!...Why should Iran or anyone else halt nuclear programs based on any type of guarantee from THIS administration?...Once Obama is OUT, hopefully the US will have OPPORTUNITY AND TIME to redeem itself...Obama would not even make a pimple on a world leaders azz...

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 01/31/15 08:39 AM
Obama's weakness in the face of threats around the world is very dangerous, but long term, Putin is the bigger threat. In two years we will have a new president who will likely be a strong leader, much like we had Reagan after the political debacle that was the 1970's. Some truth in your post, but too many ifs..Not so sure I would choose Putin at this point...Look at the damage this fecking president of ours managed to create during his FIRST year in office!...His stupidity is way more dangerous to world peace than Putin's "regional" aggression...The Ukraine crisis proved it!...Obama's indifference to world affairs, his lackadaisical policies will impact long after he leaves office, making him the biggest threat to world peace....Like it or lump it, the US is still the biggest player and the disconnect between diplomatic principles and practices is so great now that it is empowering our enemies!!...The Obama administration ALLOWED the Ukraine crisis to happen...Why should anyone, especially Israel, believe anything this administration says?...We broke our promise to Ukraine without batting an eye!...Why should Iran or anyone else halt nuclear programs based on any type of guarantee from THIS administration?...Once Obama is OUT, hopefully the US will have OPPORTUNITY AND TIME to redeem itself...Obama would not even make a pimple on a world leaders azz... In addition, the debt with which Obama has saddled the US could cause the failure of the financial system. The goal of every enemy power against the US has been to bring down the US. Obama may accomplish that goal for them.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 01/31/15 08:54 AM