Topic: nice guys finish last...
Angeltripping17's photo
Sat 01/24/15 08:14 AM
Edited by Angeltripping17 on Sat 01/24/15 08:14 AM
I agree on quite a few points Crystal ..well.put. Thanks for your reply.



This issue about nice guys has been around before. What i was thinking is...do you think nice girls finish last as well?

of course... the meek will not inherit anything ... in the animal kingdom, is it the slow, nice non - confrontational male that gets the female? no, never, it's the big wild bull that fights for everything that gets the harem...

Yes, but that's about men ...

I don't think nice girls finish last per say. Depends on what you understand to be 'nice' and 'finishing'...
I sometimes feel that, what I understand to be nice girls, end up in a relationship sooner.

Difficult question, it's not black and white. I don't even know what I am myself. Part of me is a nice girl but I do come with a rather erm .. naughty side, and that is quite a substantial part of me. Biggest problem I experience in finding love is that I don't want a 100% nice man nor a 100% 'bad' man.

Goofball73's photo
Sat 01/24/15 11:54 AM
Nice guys simply lack the balls to go for what they want. However, a man who has kindness, humor, can and will get pissed and just deal, can forgive and ask for forgiveness, can embrace his own sexual nature and not feel taboo.......that kind of guy will get the girl he wants.......or the girl that surprises him will snag him. So phuck nice guys. :thumbsup:

DavidCommaGeek's photo
Sat 01/24/15 12:39 PM
Nice guys do finish last.
It is a courtesy to let the lady finish first. More than once, if you can manage it.

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Sat 01/24/15 12:43 PM

This issue about nice guys has been around before. What i was thinking is...do you think nice girls finish last as well?


yes, in the short term at least. Especially around those who have very little insight.

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Sat 01/24/15 12:45 PM



A lifetime of being nice has only brought me disappoinments and
frustration - I think there is something to that 'finishing last'
idea.

But you can't change things - I have tried and can't change myself
so - have to suck it up.

huh


would you really want to be with someone who expects you to change?

ridewytepony's photo
Sat 01/24/15 01:26 PM
Edited by ridewytepony on Sat 01/24/15 01:30 PM

Nice guys simply lack the balls to go for what they want. However, a man who has kindness, humor, can and will get pissed and just deal, can forgive and ask for forgiveness, can embrace his own sexual nature and not feel taboo.......that kind of guy will get the girl he wants.......or the girl that surprises him will snag him. So phuck nice guys. :thumbsup:


Have merci sir!..haven't nice guys taken it dry long enough?



Yes your right!:

Infamous qoute,

"Azzholeism is not a destination
but a life time Journey"

~Pony~

Yes woman like a chip or an edge.
but you have to WANT to do it for you.

Imfamous quote:

"Whyever would one give woman hand
when you were gifted two"

~Pony~ :wink:

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Sat 01/24/15 01:31 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Sat 01/24/15 01:32 PM


Nice guys simply lack the balls to go for what they want. However, a man who has kindness, humor, can and will get pissed and just deal, can forgive and ask for forgiveness, can embrace his own sexual nature and not feel taboo.......that kind of guy will get the girl he wants.......or the girl that surprises him will snag him. So phuck nice guys. :thumbsup:


Have merci sir!..haven't nice guys taken it dry long enough?



Yes your right!:

Infamous qoute,

"Azzholeism is not a destination
but a life time Journey"

~Pony~

Yes woman like a chip or an edge.
but you have to WANT to do it for you.

Imfamous quote:

"Whyever would one give woman hand
when you were gifted two"

~Pony~



My favorite quote is the azzholeism one because I like all things "ism" and because the other two were way over my head....Hiiiiiiiii Studley Sunshine Muffin!!bigsmile :banana: waving flowerforyou

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 01/24/15 02:29 PM
I think the whole idea that "nice guys/girls finish last" and everything associated with it is a bit more complicated than usually gets mentioned in a forum like this.

The most common observation, is that the word "nice" has a negative connotation to it, especially relative to males. It's very common for manipulative, petty, selfish, emotionally stunted males to declare themselves to be "nice," because they follow a series of calculated steps which they imagine will force their target woman to like them. They are often seen to wail or rant to the effect that they "did everything right" but got dumped anyway. They want to treat the world like a giant vending machine.

In short, they aren't nice at all, they just lie and say that they are.

The mess that's mentioned rarely if at all, is that the saying "nice guys finish last" is most commonly used as an excuse for rapacious people to act in an entirely selfish and callous manner, and blame their thoughtlessness and even cruelty on society at large. It is favored by cheaters, thieves, liars, scammers, and anyone else who wants to ignore the concept of honor.


mikey5360's photo
Sat 01/24/15 02:30 PM
Male or female.....its all about balance.....
Bit of nice.....bit of bad.....
Bit of kind.....bit of tough.....
Bit of gentle.....bit of rough.....
Bit of good.....bit of naughty
Bit of leading.....bit of following.....

Meeting in the middle for a happy relationship.....happy

Goofball73's photo
Sat 01/24/15 02:32 PM



Beachfarmer's photo
Sat 01/24/15 02:34 PM
I prefer finishing together, but if not that I certainly want HER to finish first!

It's the type of nice guy I am.bigsmile

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Sat 01/24/15 02:44 PM




A lifetime of being nice has only brought me disappoinments and
frustration - I think there is something to that 'finishing last'
idea.

But you can't change things - I have tried and can't change myself
so - have to suck it up.

huh


would you really want to be with someone who expects you to change?


tried to change to be 'harder' for my own sake, Sweetest :smile:

no photo
Sat 01/24/15 02:46 PM





A lifetime of being nice has only brought me disappoinments and
frustration - I think there is something to that 'finishing last'
idea.

But you can't change things - I have tried and can't change myself
so - have to suck it up.

huh


would you really want to be with someone who expects you to change?


tried to change to be 'harder' for my own sake, Sweetest :smile:


what was harder? now you've got my interest......

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Sat 01/24/15 02:47 PM

I think the whole idea that "nice guys/girls finish last" and everything associated with it is a bit more complicated than usually gets mentioned in a forum like this.

The most common observation, is that the word "nice" has a negative connotation to it, especially relative to males. It's very common for manipulative, petty, selfish, emotionally stunted males to declare themselves to be "nice," because they follow a series of calculated steps which they imagine will force their target woman to like them. They are often seen to wail or rant to the effect that they "did everything right" but got dumped anyway. They want to treat the world like a giant vending machine.

In short, they aren't nice at all, they just lie and say that they are.

The mess that's mentioned rarely if at all, is that the saying "nice guys finish last" is most commonly used as an excuse for rapacious people to act in an entirely selfish and callous manner, and blame their thoughtlessness and even cruelty on society at large. It is favored by cheaters, thieves, liars, scammers, and anyone else who wants to ignore the concept of honor.






There's a whole lotta truth in that ... !!!

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Sat 01/24/15 02:50 PM
Edited by Foursure on Sat 01/24/15 02:51 PM


I meant trying to be less likely to put the other person first - to
'not care' so much about them I guess.
That's what I mean by me being nice - caring probably too much about
the others in my life.



Angeltripping17's photo
Sat 01/24/15 03:54 PM
Brilliant ..totally agree. Life is all about balance. flowerforyou

Male or female.....its all about balance.....
Bit of nice.....bit of bad.....
Bit of kind.....bit of tough.....
Bit of gentle.....bit of rough.....
Bit of good.....bit of naughty
Bit of leading.....bit of following.....

Meeting in the middle for a happy relationship.....happy

messi_is_a_tim_1888's photo
Sat 01/24/15 03:56 PM


I'm just me! Bad guy when i need to be, but chilled out most of the time. My missus, 2 boys and my grandson, turn me into a big softie, but you wouldn't want to cross me if you were a guy, as i'm no fool!! bigsmile


flowerforyou congratulations for your new little ones!
Thanks! :smile: drinker

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/24/15 04:34 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 01/24/15 04:35 PM


when you hear this, start the sales pitch...

lionsbrew's photo
Sat 01/24/15 04:57 PM
Nice is all a matter of p.o.v. Just because someone thinks of them self to be nice doesn't mean they are nice. Some nice guys finish last on purpose cause its not nice to leave their partner in that state.laugh

davidben1's photo
Sat 01/24/15 05:40 PM
that which light the fire in her soul that does not quell be last, for it doth no sea first nor last, but these will many times be both first and last while they learn of the ways of the eternal flame.