philosopher

You wrote:
"... The complete disregard for truth and fairness in discourse is the sort of thing I expect from far left wing idiots with no regard for reality and I am getting no less here."

Sir, debate with genuine respect of others, and others shall respect you. Debate open-mindedly with others, with a genuine commitment to uncover 'what is true' through the exchange, rather than 'pushing YOUR TRUTH', and others will likewise conduct themselves.

On the other hand Sir,
... call other fellow citizens and debaters ZOMBIES, and grossly mischaracterize their statements simply because they articulately propose a different perspective than yours,
... and you forfeit all privileges to appeal for fairness and respect.

Name-calling Fanta a 'Zombie', or referring to me as a 'far left wing idiot', is not only gross mischaracterization, it reveals the degree to which you are misguided, uninformed, and close minded to perspectives incompatible to yours.

With your name calling and mischaracterization habits, together with your angelic, 'holyer than thou' calls for fairness and thruth from others, you Sir only establish yourself as a perfect ambassador for the 'pyromaniac-fireman' brotherhood.

Should you make genuine attempts to practice open-mindedness, willingness for 'true' exchanges, while enthusiastically examining, weighing and sometimes dropping parts of your 'staid' perspectives, you might be surprised to find way more opportunities to collaborate with others, rather than fabricate and mischaracterize them as ennemies.

You want fairness?!?!? Practice fairness!

It boggles my mind how so many countries bash america yet when the CHIT really hits the fan or a MAJOR DISASTER strikes their countries....who they gonna call?? AMERICA OF COURSE!

Nope, didn't call you that. May have referred to people of a similar ilk as such, but I know the difference. I think you and Fanta are an educated liberalist and an uneducated liberalist. Between the two neither of you will give a fair shake to any ideology besides your own. Your position is pretty familiar to me and I have some idea of the fundamentals used to base your opinions. I happen to think they are closed minded to a degree in the same way a salesman's can be closed. You have an agenda you wish to promote. That's fine but I prefer more reason in my politics. Fanta's arguments conflict with themselves. Can't argue with him, pointless. Zombie may be a little strong, but a person who hike steps with move-on can't be terribly sane. That's my opinion, live with it or not. I don't care and I no longer am interested in entertaining your twisting demagoguery. Don't have time for you.

Nah Miss Barbie...we dont call AMERICA....we call the ghost busters..

and our MAJOR disasters we clean up ourselves...Bali Bombings?

Floods? Train crashes? Droughts? hmmmm...yep we dont run screaming with big blow em up guns to seek revenge for the fact you guys leave your lights on all night, and we cant have a drink of water...


Pretty big MAJOR DISASTER...drought.

Ghost busters

Im thinking of calling China or maybe Japan....I hear they have great food!!!

I wouldnt call the American govt to my birthday party!!!

Where were the Americans when the IRA were bombing the crap out of London?? OH, I know, they were in Boston and New York funding the f'kers!!!

I read somewhere on the BBC site, that George Jnr once locked Colin Powell out of a meeting because he was late!!

OMFG!!

Plus anyone who pronounces Colin, Co-lin deserves to be shut outside!

The Americans were helping the IRA duncan!!

Ireland, the last vestiges of the great British Empire!!!

Philosopher,

Count those, it will keep your weak and shallow mind occupied for the next two hours at least!!!!

Simple jealousy I think..

Simple, Im sure!

I think I saw him at the drive-thru at Jack-n-the-Box today!!!

Hey Cute

hi Fanta...

Just taking a break! Need to get back at it I reckon!!!

Fanta ... Ireland is not part of the British Commonwealth. They are separate. They left in the late 1930s I think. As opposed to declaring independance which is what most countries did.

... and the comment about the IRA, were you agreeing with me or laughing at the comment?

Belushi we got our independence in 1921, except for 6 counties up the north which are under British rule. The majority of Irish people do not support the I.R.A of which membership is now illegal. Regardless of your present govt Bill Clinton was a major player in bringing peace to our Island.
I love visiting the U.S. have a lot of family there and as anywhere I visit respect that countrys laws,culture etc.

P.S. we were never part of the British Commonwealth

celticfairy, Welcome to JSH

I was agreeing Belushi!!!

Irish home rule was to be provided under the Home Rule Act 1914, but the onset of World War I delayed its implementation indefinitely. At Easter 1916 an unsuccessful armed uprising was staged in Dublin by a mixed group of nationalists and socialists. From 1919 the Irish Republican Army fought a guerrilla war to secede from the United Kingdom. This Anglo-Irish War ended in 1921 with a stalemate and the signing of the Anglo-Irish Treaty. (Voluntarily, HA)

The treaty confirmed the division of Ireland into two states, most of the island (26 counties) became the Irish Free State, a dominion within the British Commonwealth, while the six counties in the north with a majority Protestant community remained a part of the United Kingdom as Northern Ireland. (I should inject here that the majority protestant population were a land grab/relocation policy enacted by England in the 16oo's)

The Free State evolved into the Republic of Ireland, which withdrew from the Commonwealth when enacted in 1949. (Withdrew when enacted. Doesnt that mean they never were part of the commonwealth)



Heres the part and the reason that America supported (unofficially) the IRA. To help them reobtain all their country!

Ireland's Constitution claimed Northern Ireland as a part of the Republic until 1998. The issue of whether Northern Ireland should remain in the United Kingdom or join the Republic of Ireland has divided Northern Ireland's people and was a factor in a long and bloody conflict known as the Troubles. The Belfast Agreement of 1998 brought about a ceasefire between most of the major organisations on both sides.

Thank you for the welcome Fanta.
Did you swallow one of our history books ?

Googled it! I knew what Belushi said wasnt all true!!

Damn English, they tried to claim the whole world once upon a time.

It must be humiliating to be such a iddy-bitty country that relys on the US to stay free now!!!

Oh he'll love that!!!

I should mention: Thats in your History Belushi. Didnt they teach you that in school???

You do know where the Capital of England is dont you!!!

Its in George Bush's pocket!!!!

Im sorry about that celticfairy. just egging him on!!!

:laugh

Thats ok Fanta