How's this for an answer since the OP is not looking for advice.
I am worth so much because I take care of myself. Anything I want or desire I can get for myself.
I work hard for it. I enjoy it.
Why should I view myself as less to make you feel better?
My parents kicked my *** to make sure I did better in school and in life.
Some women had **** handed to them. A lot didn't.
So there is your answer.
2 reason why women feel they are worth much.

Of course cantaloupes are pretty cheap!




by comparison....

Generalizations are dicey but my guess is it is more related to the vibe you give off.

If your vibe is that you are all that and a bag of chips well then maybe the gals reflect that attitude back at you. Like usually attracts like.

However since dating loosely has two goals for women; and dating is "expensive" for women the likelihood is if you don't want to anti up then she is going to choose the gentleman who will.

Be real if a woman is 20 something, attractive, childless, full time plus employed, and independent she pretty much has card blanc to pick the superior of the multitude that are pursuing her. Some guy who wants to whine that the system is slanted well so Sorry Charlie settle for mackerel because you are not getting Lobster for free. The whole war hero dribble is past accomplishments and rarely computes to future behavior or benifits for 40 years and only marginally then.

If she is the typical 20 something female with a kid on a low wage part time job calling in a favor from her family or friends for a sitter for the limited time she can go out she isn't wasting it on some guy who thinks he can "shop the pooty for free" because he over rates what his "muscles" can do or that his sexist whining is entertaining. She will blow off the 420 party guy for someone that is more concerned about passing a drug test, keeping his good job, maybe even qualifying for a mortgage/home and has a future past Saturday night.

She will pick a decent guy who will offer what he can afford and probably reciprocate with a home cooked meal or at least as much attention as his continued interest warrants.

The guy who proves he can mange his money and has the means and interest to be a "provider" at least for a couple hours and a meal says he is a contender.

Men are so funny..one complains that women aren't old fashioned enough, then another one comes along {same age} and complains about why women want to be wine and dined {sighs}

Lol, well come on, sure! My dates tend to have an organic feel to them. So while I'll have something in particular in mind, there's plenty of leeway.

For example, if I go on a hike with someone, I'll usually take pity and get them something to warm them up. Or if they're hungry I'll feed them.

But yeah no, my first few dates don't usually cost me a dime. I like to get to know a lot of people and I'd like to do it without breaking my bank, and if that's a problem for a girl, she can take her illogical self to some loser and suck him dry instead (not REMOTELY what I meant, for those of you giggling at that). xD

I wasn't even REMOTELY thinking of that, now I am
Thanks for that

*tip of the hat* Always a pleasure to inadvertently introduce raunchy jokes to the discussion. xD

Hahaha, I'm with Crystal, I didn't go there, until you did.

I guess I should've directed that comment toward the male population whose minds generally seem more geared in that direction, although my guess is the net result would still be the same and all the normal people would still be like, "ugh...it's too early to be thinking about this...and it always will be too early." xD

I thought it was funny....we need more funny on this site, lately so many people have had their boxers and panties in a twist, we need levity, dammit...

Levity, damn good word Yolanda, damn good word!!...Merry, merry, happy, happy!!

Oh well if it's funny you want, hold on. I'm going to link a couple entertainment videos I made....just a sec...

I'll be waiting with bated breath.

Thank you.

I honestly think it might be the younger generation because I feel that people in their 40's and up do not think they deserve any thing handed to them.
I myself prefer a coffee date as a first date. It is less pressure and it can be a short date in case I don't like the guy. I always get there early and buy my own drink before they come. I have my own money and I don't need anyone paying for my things.
Do you realize how much you can do for free? I myself don't like to spend money to go see a movie when you can watch it at home for a lot less. Enjoy the nature and go for a walk, or just go to the mall and look around.
IF it is money that you are worried about, just tell the person you are going out with that money is tight and does she mind going dutch. If she does not want to pay her own way, then don't date her.
Let me clear up one thing...not ALL women are out to get the man's money. For some odd reason there are a lot of men on here that think that women are gold diggers. There might be a few on here but there are some that are not materialistic. So please stop grouping all women together. Guess what, women do have their own money and half of the time...they make more then the men do. Sure there are women that will take and take and keep taking...but not all of us are like that!!!
I agree with the person that said they were raised as a little princess, maybe they were spoiled when they were little? Some people are handed everything from their parents and think that all guys are going to continue doing that for them. But you also have the other women who had to work for their money if they wanted something.
You just can not group all women together. Just like we can not group all men together..that would not be fair.

Okay Cardzy, your links are up on the general discussion board. Enjoy! =p

By the way, I love the tattoo on your left foot. It definitely doesn't do you a disservice. =)

Ahh but they are worth it.....

...sometimes. The most I invested in a person as far as dating goes was with a girl who I discovered was playing me and two or three other guys.

So never again, I'm going to withhold my investments until I come to know character better. I refuse to be walked on like that by anyone again.

My question to you is...do you really think that money makes a man? If so, then I think you have issues with yourself because you can not buy love. You have nothing to prove to anyone, be yourself. If you can not afford an expensive place to eat, invite her over and cook her supper. That is so much more romantic then going to eat at a fancy restaurant. Do you know why? Because YOU cooked it esp for her.
Never change who you are to please a woman. Just be you and if you don't want to spend a lot of money...there is no need to. My son is 19 and he was dating a girl his senior year. I asked him what he was getting her for Valentines Day..he said I am getting her a card and nothing else. I said why is that...he said because this is our first Valentines together and if I go way out then next year she is going to expect something bigger. LOL that kid learned early. He has an older brother who has told him a lot about the women on what to do and what not to do.