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Well, after Tuesday comes WTF.
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Well, after Tuesday comes WTF. |
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I know I upset somebody for correcting his/her spelling. Is it wrong to do so? Is correct spelling and grammar a thing of the past? My kids seem to have very little spelling homework. Is this not a concern to be teaching our kids and generations to come about spelling correctly and being grammatically correct? I have noticed that even books have been published with major spelling errors. Just curious what others think about this. I'd treat it like any other advice - remain silent unless u are asked. people do not always want to be "corrected" especially in front of others, or on their free time on a site that is supposed to be fun. we're not in school here.just my opinion agreed |
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The society that say's dat lol yeah it gets worse by the year. My kids can't even read the letter I wrote them because it's script. Kids today have gadgets to do it for them
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I know I upset somebody for correcting his/her spelling. Is it wrong to do so? Is correct spelling and grammar a thing of the past? My kids seem to have very little spelling homework. Is this not a concern to be teaching our kids and generations to come about spelling correctly and being grammatically correct? I have noticed that even books have been published with major spelling errors. Just curious what others think about this. do you like it when people point out your mistakes? @ SD FYI JP apologized after starting this post to the person she was refering to in the "Who would you like to meet in person thread." Don't you think we should give her a break??? sorry doesn't cut it. why do you and princess see a constant need to point out mistakes others make? |
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I love it. Strict women are hot. I know you said you wanted to be dominated by navigirl PS: {{jp}} I was responding to your post yesterday and had written a lengthy post but the screen froze and it didn't save. As this doesn't come naturally to me, I was discouraged, but I'll do that now. The is a good thread that raises awareness. I appreciate the thread its funny because I was in the middle of posting a thread two nights ago but a couple of towns woman knocked on my door,I still tried to finish and post but with severe concentration problems it was just impossible. I will start the thread today on Faux pas: fopa's; social plunders and awkwardness. Maybe when I come back I will take off my predicted text features and not proof read and give you all a treat into the mind of one dyslexic with focusing problems while writing. proof reading with Dyslexia isn't 100%, as what you see as wrong one day,won't register another day. when I proof read I often have to take out complete sentences ,as I can't figure out what I was trying to write. There's also many other reasons that will look wrong to some as {{{Missy}}} Brilliantly pointed out. (once a cop always a cop..lol) As a Canadian I know they change some spelling from the American English and just said it was wrong. I recall a teachers making the announcement and saying " we disagree and from now on 'this'word will be spelled like 'this'". eg.(labour & colour harbour) just one example, also a few pronunciation changes in my time. eg.(data ..as its spelled)and via (not veea anymore) Many problems from the phone with the predictive text (cheat bar) as its easy to accidentally hit a word in the cheat bar after you have proof read sections as I like to do on a phone at times,Again dyslexia aside, Our brains don't read every letter mainly the first and last letter so I also do that all the time as there may be five big words that are in the 'cheat bar' and at a glance you pick the wrong one,so it looks like you don't know the meaning of that big word. At times I can confuse the words on one certain day, but it doesn't mean I don't know. and finely "continuous input" That's when your phone finishes the word when its not the word you want,like putting an ing on the end. with this useless feature you can't abbreviate like trying to write a user name. {{{{2KM}}}} I heard you talk about a phone problem I think That's what you were referring to. when a bought this galaxy S4 they had the 'continuous input' on and it was a biotch to find. the Samsung just shows 'predictive text with an on/off option but I finally pressed on the words 'Predictive text and there it was a whole other bank with the nasty continuous input. Hope that can be of some help, I feel ya! :) Dyslexia..Wow Everything I mix up: I, A, d,b and p,..About every common one -five letter words gets swapped around No s on the end, of/off, ch,sh th,wh ou gh ow ) and I really get confused with; the same words with different spellings as to when to use them one day I know it, one day I don't. I've spent years using; there, to, no & such for every. This is where I stand with it all: I'm in harmony with{{{msharmony}}} two words;tact & timing is everything' in many areas of life. If I have a 'Boss' or client gets in may face about an issue that could get in my head before work or not let me have a shower and a plate of dinner then its not going to turn out very good. As we say in Canada; " I was looking for a job when I found this one" hence; the attitude. I am short with anyone that is going to ADDRESSES ME for the FIRST time about ANYTHING negative without 'provoke',lol But I don't care even on spelling if I have talked to them a few times, they could call me f*en ... if they were aloud, I'd think it was funny. The only problem with that is others may think they could say that to Anyone,but it would be cool with me otherwise. With all the variables mentioned,its a risky area to approach, there may be areas that people see me constantly do or perhaps more so when I got here and I have corrected things I could retain. Well I'm sure I mentioned it before that I was receptive to having help, but unless you're a professional in that area,then you may not be able to help. It still wouldn't bothering me if they have great communicate skills and are well informed. The "positive negative positive approach" always works. (eg. "I liked your joke..by the way your spelling sucks ..lol..ps You're a sexy SOB " we'll try another one together: I did all the dishes & cleaned up real nice. Can I have $200 to go shopping? and I'll get some lingerie and _ _ _ _ your brains out when I get back". Are you sure 200 guna be enough...lol I like been worked in general. So that's the skinny on it,I would have taken tactful help but nobody bothered to approach. The late great George Carlin on: "fine & Dandy " "People always ask; 'how yu bin fine and dandy'? I'm never fine and dandy, I've bin fine many times & I've bin dandy many times but I'm never both fine and dandy...ONCE! ONCE! I was both fine and dandy, one time! in 1968 for about 5min. AND NOBODY BOTHERED TO ASKED ME HOW I WAS. |
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There ya go! positive/negative/position and not even realizing I did it. opened with a joke,crap in the middle and closed with a joke, That's texbook! that's what I'm takin' about |
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I love it. Strict women are hot. I know you said you wanted to be dominated by navigirl PS: {{jp}} I was responding to your post yesterday and had written a lengthy post but the screen froze and it didn't save. As this doesn't come naturally to me, I was discouraged, but I'll do that now. The is a good thread that raises awareness. I appreciate the thread its funny because I was in the middle of posting a thread two nights ago but a couple of towns woman knocked on my door,I still tried to finish and post but with severe concentration problems it was just impossible. I will start the thread today on Faux pas: fopa's; social plunders and awkwardness. Maybe when I come back I will take off my predicted text features and not proof read and give you all a treat into the mind of one dyslexic with focusing problems while writing. proof reading with Dyslexia isn't 100%, as what you see as wrong one day,won't register another day. when I proof read I often have to take out complete sentences ,as I can't figure out what I was trying to write. There's also many other reasons that will look wrong to some as {{{Missy}}} Brilliantly pointed out. (once a cop always a cop..lol) As a Canadian I know they change some spelling from the American English and just said it was wrong. I recall a teachers making the announcement and saying " we disagree and from now on 'this'word will be spelled like 'this'". eg.(labour & colour harbour) just one example, also a few pronunciation changes in my time. eg.(data ..as its spelled)and via (not veea anymore) Many problems from the phone with the predictive text (cheat bar) as its easy to accidentally hit a word in the cheat bar after you have proof read sections as I like to do on a phone at times,Again dyslexia aside, Our brains don't read every letter mainly the first and last letter so I also do that all the time as there may be five big words that are in the 'cheat bar' and at a glance you pick the wrong one,so it looks like you don't know the meaning of that big word. At times I can confuse the words on one certain day, but it doesn't mean I don't know. and finely "continuous input" That's when your phone finishes the word when its not the word you want,like putting an ing on the end. with this useless feature you can't abbreviate like trying to write a user name. {{{{2KM}}}} I heard you talk about a phone problem I think That's what you were referring to. when a bought this galaxy S4 they had the 'continuous input' on and it was a biotch to find. the Samsung just shows 'predictive text with an on/off option but I finally pressed on the words 'Predictive text and there it was a whole other bank with the nasty continuous input. Hope that can be of some help, I feel ya! :) Dyslexia..Wow Everything I mix up: I, A, d,b and p,..About every common one -five letter words gets swapped around No s on the end, of/off, ch,sh th,wh ou gh ow ) and I really get confused with; the same words with different spellings as to when to use them one day I know it, one day I don't. I've spent years using; there, to, no & such for every. This is where I stand with it all: I'm in harmony with{{{msharmony}}} two words;tact & timing is everything' in many areas of life. If I have a 'Boss' or client gets in may face about an issue that could get in my head before work or not let me have a shower and a plate of dinner then its not going to turn out very good. As we say in Canada; " I was looking for a job when I found this one" hence; the attitude. I am short with anyone that is going to ADDRESSES ME for the FIRST time about ANYTHING negative without 'provoke',lol But I don't care even on spelling if I have talked to them a few times, they could call me f*en ... if they were aloud, I'd think it was funny. The only problem with that is others may think they could say that to Anyone,but it would be cool with me otherwise. With all the variables mentioned,its a risky area to approach, there may be areas that people see me constantly do or perhaps more so when I got here and I have corrected things I could retain. Well I'm sure I mentioned it before that I was receptive to having help, but unless you're a professional in that area,then you may not be able to help. It still wouldn't bothering me if they have great communicate skills and are well informed. The "positive negative positive approach" always works. (eg. "I liked your joke..by the way your spelling sucks ..lol..ps You're a sexy SOB " we'll try another one together: I did all the dishes & cleaned up real nice. Can I have $200 to go shopping? and I'll get some lingerie and _ _ _ _ your brains out when I get back". Are you sure 200 guna be enough...lol I like been worked in general. So that's the skinny on it,I would have taken tactful help but nobody bothered to approach. The late great George Carlin on: "fine & Dandy " "People always ask; 'how yu bin fine and dandy'? I'm never fine and dandy, I've bin fine many times & I've bin dandy many times but I'm never both fine and dandy...ONCE! ONCE! I was both fine and dandy, one time! in 1968 for about 5min. AND NOBODY BOTHERED TO ASKED ME HOW I WAS. You get this You get this You get this and you get this I'm having this framed.... |
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Spelling and grammar being the special torture of my life I want to yank my own hair out when I sometimes reread my posts.
Having worked around so many "professionals" and all around "brainiacs" that could not spell any better I just figure I am in good company. I think the gist of my points get across, and it would be the very rare post that I could not auto-edit and follow so this being a "community" not a court room I try to let it go. But I get that for some folks this is their "calling" and bless their little pea-picken hearts they elevate communication and I don't take their coaching as malicious. Now I see someone that is doing it to be a bully I just love to tear them down with word-smithing and vocabulary so far over their head they don't even know they are being insulted. If all else fails we have a long standing joke in the south that this kind of behavior is "just precious". |
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Edited by
ridewytepony
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Thu 11/21/13 07:30 PM
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In the case of teaching your children or a job interview then by all means yes. If its something casual like this site then no. I have had grammer nazi's attack me for a misspelled word and I think wow what must they be like at home does everyone have to be perfect. I have read your posts and I don't think you would go out of your way to hurt someones feelings though. Thank you Jack. I certainly did not mean to upset anyone. I have let many spelling errors go without commenting about them. I am not perfect either. I do apologize for stepping on toes. Why is spelling not important to express on social sites? Again good thread, I certainly do take you as been sincere but I have to say you seem very loose with your words. just in this post alone you are far from elegant. "I have let many spelling errors go". "why is spelling not important to express on social social sites" Not everything that is written here needs to be understood, not everybody socialites either there is something for everybody here in the forums things work on averages and majorities as do Country's I've paid $6000 in three weeks in taxes as a working man,50% when I couldn't contract. then another 7% province sales tax(PST) & 7% goods & serves tax(GST) in my province at the store. that's just the way things work, its the law of average. take what you can get and leave the rest behind. Again "why isn't spelling important to express on a social site" I can turn that around and ask why isn't expressing important to express , I will in another thread, I may be on the bottom one % with the spelling and structuring but there my be people in the top one percent that couldn't talk to another human properly to save there own life's as many people DO loose their lives that way;true all the time and not because they can't spell worth chit. Anyways I agree with most all them. Its negative,its hurtful,its supposed to be fun ect but the people that have the tact and are 'elegant' speakers that could address a complete stranger if they wanted with ease choose not to so I personally would go with their experiences on this. In my experience here 100% of the time I was offended and not one of the commenter's had ever had a prior conversation with me. So the ones that haven't a clue...do and the ones that could with ease,choose not to. so the obvious advise here to the people that think they better correct a stranger is don't become you probably have less to average people skills. Ok guys... Did you hear the one about the dyslexic, atheists ,insomniac? I stayed up all night wondering if there really was a doG you guys better not have Laughed? that one was for me |
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{{{Pacificstar}}}
"So far over their heads they don't even know they've been insulted " And we say I told 'em to f* off with a smile on my face Speaking in (((gicanary))) ?????? (((A crafty way of speaking))) I can't find the spelling for it I looked about 8 months ago on goggle?? and dictionary??? but nothing,I'm sure it starts with a g and not j and I'm sure the end is right, That's how it sounds Do you know ((pacificstar)) or ((leigh))or??? |
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I know I upset somebody for correcting his/her spelling. Is it wrong to do so? Is correct spelling and grammar a thing of the past? My kids seem to have very little spelling homework. Is this not a concern to be teaching our kids and generations to come about spelling correctly and being grammatically correct? I have noticed that even books have been published with major spelling errors. Just curious what others think about this. Spelling and grammar are very important. Unfortunately, not everyone thinks so and some get offended when their poor spelling and grammar are pointed out. |
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In the case of teaching your children or a job interview then by all means yes. If its something casual like this site then no. I have had grammer nazi's attack me for a misspelled word and I think wow what must they be like at home does everyone have to be perfect. I have read your posts and I don't think you would go out of your way to hurt someones feelings though. I disagree. While we all have typos, it's not hard to spell correctly, especially with spell check. And grammar? Sure, people make mistakes, but to not care about it at all, especially when the form of communication is written, is pretty silly. If someone's spelling or grammar is so bad that it's hard to read or follow what they say, I just don't bother. It's not about being perfect, it's about trying to write well enough to communicate effectively. |
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Pony, I never realized you had Dyslexia. I know much of what you mean. Especially if it's words like 'Accomodation','Communication', 'Mississippi'. I'm always asking is it one M or two in certain words. Two's and five's can really throw me for six, too. Six and nine also. Sometimes I have to re-edit stuff, which makes it look suspicious, but I know what I'm trying to get across in any message, so sometimes have to re-word it. I only got so far on a Journalism course because my dyslexia kept jumbling up certain words. Even though I was concentrating fully. You still sometimes spell stuff wrong, even when you're concentrating.
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In the case of teaching your children or a job interview then by all means yes. If its something casual like this site then no. I have had grammer nazi's attack me for a misspelled word and I think wow what must they be like at home does everyone have to be perfect. I have read your posts and I don't think you would go out of your way to hurt someones feelings though. Thank you Jack. I certainly did not mean to upset anyone. I have let many spelling errors go without commenting about them. I am not perfect either. I do apologize for stepping on toes. Why is spelling not important to express on social sites? I don't know about this...unless it is misspelled on purpose it makes you look not too bright. JMO Not too bright in what way? Not having a college degree? Just being a blue collar working man who's not trying to be something he's not.I agree its not to hard to hit the spell check button but doing that, does that make someone smarter or lessen their knowledge of life? Its been my life experience that all things are not perfect and that includes people, for myself I am more interested in the content of a person not their imperfections. Sometimes the ones that are perceived as stupid are actually are the smartest people in the room. If you know you are bad at spelling, why wouldn't you use spell check? Lots of spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes make things hard to read. On a site like this, I would think everyone would want to write well enough so everyone else can easily understand them. |
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{{{Pacificstar}}} "So far over their heads they don't even know they've been insulted " And we say I told 'em to f* off with a smile on my face Speaking in (((gicanary))) ?????? (((A crafty way of speaking))) I can't find the spelling for it I looked about 8 months ago on goggle?? and dictionary??? but nothing,I'm sure it starts with a g and not j and I'm sure the end is right, That's how it sounds Do you know ((pacificstar)) or ((leigh))or??? I know I have heard the term but to tell you where I am not sure. I think it is maybe Old English or maybe even Irish. I think it is spelled Chicainery??? What I do know is if you get way back up in the hills, heck way off the roads and trails up in the mountains, of Appalachia they are absolute masters of this. And because most are not public school educated a lot of their education beyond the lower grades is based out of family bibles that are handed down generations so I would guess there is a heavy Miner's influence where ever they came from because they came off the boats and went straight to the coal mines from the old country to Kentucky. Someone who really wanted to study language and genuinely wanted to help children of families that are fiercely proud and devoted to their children would go to the Red Bird Mission and volunteer. The poverty there is by any standards is shocking. However if they were down to their last teaspoon of sugar they would serve it to you in tea with a grace, dignity, and hospitality that you were being attended by the maid servant to the Queen. Often pitied by outsiders I would guess they have kept alive that delicate art and it takes time and humility to gain their trust but more loyal friends, once made, can not be found. Well outside of Mingle. |
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Edited by
Leigh2154
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Thu 11/21/13 09:45 PM
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In the case of teaching your children or a job interview then by all means yes. If its something casual like this site then no. I have had grammer nazi's attack me for a misspelled word and I think wow what must they be like at home does everyone have to be perfect. I have read your posts and I don't think you would go out of your way to hurt someones feelings though. Thank you Jack. I certainly did not mean to upset anyone. I have let many spelling errors go without commenting about them. I am not perfect either. I do apologize for stepping on toes. Why is spelling not important to express on social sites? I don't know about this...unless it is misspelled on purpose it makes you look not too bright. JMO Not too bright in what way? Not having a college degree? Just being a blue collar working man who's not trying to be something he's not.I agree its not to hard to hit the spell check button but doing that, does that make someone smarter or lessen their knowledge of life? Its been my life experience that all things are not perfect and that includes people, for myself I am more interested in the content of a person not their imperfections. Sometimes the ones that are perceived as stupid are actually are the smartest people in the room. If you know you are bad at spelling, why wouldn't you use spell check? Lots of spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes make things hard to read. On a site like this, I would think everyone would want to write well enough so everyone else can easily understand them. Spellcheck not only tells you when a word is misspelled, it also automatically changes some spelling mistakes...When a person spells phonetically rather than from memory they often confuse words with two or more meanings and spell check doesn't pick up on that...Also, when spell check finds misspelled words, they have to be close enough to right for spell check to give you alternative spellings...Even if a dyslexic gets to the point of getting the alternative words from spell check, he still has to figure out which one to use...Spellcheck is a nightmare for most dyslexics so they just give up and do the best they can...If their best isn't good enough for you, tough chit...Read something else... |
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Understanding adult dyslexia seems to be a stretch for some people...Since it is a relatively common condition affecting 1 in 10 people, my thought for anal retentive grammar police would be think before you criticize/correct others...
For those who don't know or don't care, if you ever want to know or if you ever begin to care, here's a list of the "writing" difficulties dyslexics face... Spelling words correctly and consistently. Using proper grammar. Proofreading and self-correcting work. Preparing outlines and organizing written assignments. Fully developing ideas in writing. Expressing ideas in a logical, organized way. |
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In the case of teaching your children or a job interview then by all means yes. If its something casual like this site then no. I have had grammer nazi's attack me for a misspelled word and I think wow what must they be like at home does everyone have to be perfect. I have read your posts and I don't think you would go out of your way to hurt someones feelings though. Thank you Jack. I certainly did not mean to upset anyone. I have let many spelling errors go without commenting about them. I am not perfect either. I do apologize for stepping on toes. Why is spelling not important to express on social sites? I don't know about this...unless it is misspelled on purpose it makes you look not too bright. JMO Not too bright in what way? Not having a college degree? Just being a blue collar working man who's not trying to be something he's not.I agree its not to hard to hit the spell check button but doing that, does that make someone smarter or lessen their knowledge of life? Its been my life experience that all things are not perfect and that includes people, for myself I am more interested in the content of a person not their imperfections. Sometimes the ones that are perceived as stupid are actually are the smartest people in the room. If you know you are bad at spelling, why wouldn't you use spell check? Lots of spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes make things hard to read. On a site like this, I would think everyone would want to write well enough so everyone else can easily understand them. Spellcheck not only tells you when a word is misspelled, it also automatically changes some spelling mistakes...When a person spells phonetically rather than from memory they often confuse words with two or more meanings and spell check doesn't pick up on that...Also, when spell check finds misspelled words, they have to be close enough to right for spell check to give you alternative spellings...Even if a dyslexic gets to the point of getting the alternative words from spell check, he still has to figure out which one to use...Spellcheck is a nightmare for most dyslexics so they just give up and do the best they can...If their best isn't good enough for you, tough chit...Read something else... spell and b_tch..that don't impress me! 'You'd'want to come down to the river Bungy jumping and come up with a stealhead in your MOUTH! Now THAT would impress me. |
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Understanding adult dyslexia seems to be a stretch for some people...Since it is a relatively common condition affecting 1 in 10 people, my thought for anal retentive grammar police would be think before you criticize/correct others... For those who don't know or don't care, if you ever want to know or if you ever begin to care, here's a list of the "writing" difficulties dyslexics face... Spelling words correctly and consistently. Using proper grammar. Proofreading and self-correcting work. Preparing outlines and organizing written assignments. Fully developing ideas in writing. Expressing ideas in a logical, organized way. However people who are dyslexic are often highly talented in invertive thinking and creative thinking. They often are greatly gifted in acting and vocal talents. They have great empathy for people and are sometimes shy but extreamly loyal in friendships. |
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