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Edited by
isaac_dede
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Fri 11/22/13 11:28 AM
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As Leigh said in an earlier post, the person comes off as trying to sound superior. I often think that is by design, because most, not all, 'grammar Nazi's' thought they were really intelligent, although most couldn't figure out which side of the hammer to hold. I come from a large family and one of only a few who graduated, as a result some of my brothers and sisters spelling is atrocious, however I would never correct it unless they asked me to proofread something.
One of my class mates decided he was going to correct my little brothers spelling and grammar on a constant basis, he was doing this as my brother was putting his Transmission back together after fixing it. He said things like "How could you now know how to spell that?" or "Everybody knows this or that..." it was painfully obvious that he thought he was smarter than my brother. That was until my brother started asking for his help with that car "hey pass me the alternator/carburetor/distributor...." each and every time the guy ask "what's that?" and my brother replied with "How can you not know THAT?" in essence he made the "grammar Nazi" feel really stupid as well. My point in this, is if spelling and grammar is not someones forte, and you correct it without them asking, you are essentially perceived as someone who thinks they are "better" every one has different strengths. That being said, generally people have no clue about someone's background and make assumptions about individuals, and 'correct' them when that is not their job. If spelling and grammar mistakes annoy you that much, go get a job as an English teacher and teach people the proper way, because that is what they want you to do. |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Fri 11/22/13 11:34 AM
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not.
I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way. |
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way. 
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Edited by
isaac_dede
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Fri 11/22/13 11:42 AM
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I think in an open forum like this, that it is completely inappropriate to correct anyone's spelling or grammar. Now constructive criticism is fine, however, every leadership class I have ever taken says to "correct in private" and "praise in public". I'm quite sure that if someone truly was just "trying to help" someone and sent them a private message explaining they had troubling following a post because of "A, B, or C" and explained it would have been easier for them to follow if they would have done "A, B, or C differently" that they would probably appreciate the feedback.
However, I truly don't think most "grammar Nazi's" intent is to help anyone besides themselves. Many use it as a way to "sound smarter" because as I explained if they truly wanted to "help" they would take the time to send a private message. But that's just my opinion. |
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way.
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As Leigh said in an earlier post, the person comes off as trying to sound superior. I often think that is by design, because most, not all, 'grammar Nazi's' thought they were really intelligent, although most couldn't figure out which side of the hammer to hold. I come from a large family and one of only a few who graduated, as a result some of my brothers and sisters spelling is atrocious, however I would never correct it unless they asked me to proofread something. One of my class mates decided he was going to correct my little brothers spelling and grammar on a constant basis, he was doing this as my brother was putting his Transmission back together after fixing it. He said things like "How could you now know how to spell that?" or "Everybody knows this or that..." it was painfully obvious that he thought he was smarter than my brother. That was until my brother started asking for his help with that car "hey pass me the alternator/carburetor/distributor...." each and every time the guy ask "what's that?" and my brother replied with "How can you not know THAT?" in essence he made the "grammar Nazi" feel really stupid as well.My point in this, is if spelling and grammar is not someones forte, and you correct it without them asking, you are essentially perceived as someone who thinks they are "better" every one has different strengths.That being said, generally people have no clue about someone's background and make assumptions about individuals, and 'correct' them when that is not their job. If spelling and grammar mistakes annoy you that much, go get a job as an English teacher and teach people the proper way, because that is what they want you to do. 
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I could not agree more! 380(John).
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I think most of the time, people just look for things to get offended over and spelling/grammar is one of those things.
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way.
I read that perfect:)))) |
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way. Sure! its the fault of the person that wrote it and there's nothing wrong with skipping over any or every post for that matter. Many people say to skid it BUT how would you know that they're mad that you skiped it over 
they WOULD NOT know unless YOU pointed it out! as you do in a insulting way. This is nothing but a form or happiness to you. (Felix)Happiness of comparitative advantage. eg.) I have more/better of/at this than X "The comparison game"; If one fails, it can lead to unhappiness and a sense or worthlessness. Such happiness has a rather unstable END. If the word was composed of mainly these people it would be a very unsatisfying word. My Dad would say it all the time when my life was off track and say: "you got your problems but you just got to take a look around and you don't have to look very far;there's always somebody worse off. Now every day that can elevate me if needed but I don't have to walk up to the guy in the garage can and kick him. but I will probably buy him breakfast. Having said all that and this been an open forum Its only safe to say "we communicate through writing and I feel (iF) we are conversing then it is Important their is rarely a mistake. That's It!!! Nobody has a viable argument that there's no reason for it with spell checks and such ...Some people are so obtuse.and it certainly isn't the ones that can "get it" with the language. |
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way.
I read that perfect:)))) Of course you did 
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way. Sure! its the fault of the person that wrote it and there's nothing wrong with skipping over any or every post for that matter. Many people say to skid it BUT how would you know that they're mad that you skiped it over
they WOULD NOT know unless YOU pointed it out! as you do in a insulting way. This is nothing but a form or happiness to you. (Felix)Happiness of comparitative advantage. eg.) I have more/better of/at this than X "The comparison game"; If one fails, it can lead to unhappiness and a sense or worthlessness. Such happiness has a rather unstable END. If the word was composed of mainly these people it would be a very unsatisfying word. My Dad would say it all the time when my life was off track and say: "you got your problems but you just got to take a look around and you don't have to look very far;there's always somebody worse off. Now every day that can elevate me if needed but I don't have to walk up to the guy in the garage can and kick him. but I will probably buy him breakfast. Having said all that and this been an open forum Its only safe to say "we communicate through writing and I feel (iF) we are conversing then it is Important their is rarely a mistake. That's It!!! Nobody has a viable argument that there's no reason for it with spell checks and such ...Some people are so obtuse.and it certainly isn't the ones that can "get it" with the language. I'm sorry that you feel insulted. I'm not sure what the rest of your post was about, though. I guess I just didn't "get it." |
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Edited by
Solace84
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Fri 11/22/13 01:09 PM
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Won't get mad when corrected cus English wsn't my first language...some could be mad when corrected cuz they thought it was rude...But the best way to correct someone is to rephrase what they say with the correct spellings&grammars :)
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way. Sure! its the fault of the person that wrote it and there's nothing wrong with skipping over any or every post for that matter. Many people say to skid it BUT how would you know that they're mad that you skiped it over
they WOULD NOT know unless YOU pointed it out! as you do in a insulting way. This is nothing but a form or happiness to you. (Felix)Happiness of comparitative advantage. eg.) I have more/better of/at this than X "The comparison game"; If one fails, it can lead to unhappiness and a sense or worthlessness. Such happiness has a rather unstable END. If the word was composed of mainly these people it would be a very unsatisfying word. My Dad would say it all the time when my life was off track and say: "you got your problems but you just got to take a look around and you don't have to look very far;there's always somebody worse off. Now every day that can elevate me if needed but I don't have to walk up to the guy in the garage can and kick him. but I will probably buy him breakfast. Having said all that and this been an open forum Its only safe to say "we communicate through writing and I feel (iF) we are conversing then it is Important their is rarely a mistake. That's It!!! Nobody has a viable argument that there's no reason for it with spell checks and such ...Some people are so obtuse.and it certainly isn't the ones that can "get it" with the language. Awesome post Studley  ...I have a tendency to agree with your take on the psychology of Grammar Nazis and calling what they do "The Comparison Game" is right on! ...It's a dangerous little game that, when played and lost, only results in more negative actions....Reminds me of that old saying, "Misery loves company"
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Edited by
ridewytepony
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Fri 11/22/13 02:04 PM
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I think most of the time, people just look for things to get offended over and spelling/grammar is one of those things. Nobody ever wants to be unhappy ~Aristotle You lie to yourself or you just want the turmoil? I have a hard time thinking you believe that statement. The true is the other way around( see early Greek philosophy and later Christian writers (Felix) happiness of comparitative advantage. and there's a picture of you, Its as plain as day, for argument sake, lets say spelling wasn't a strong point in your life then how "pro Nazi" would you be. "You can't do this you can't do that I'm better at this. Have YOU every stopped to think about the challenges people like me have gone through in life the embarrassment through school having to read in front of the class,in front of you friends In front of the girls,going to learning assistance class. Never can finish things in the time allotted always have homework,summer school,inferior complexes with adults, always having to dumb it down as you have a decent vocabulary but can't spell in hand writing.Give up on writing almost 100% for 28 years. 20 years of Post traumatic stress syndrome with nightmares of been in school. How about this one? Just read {{2KM }}post about the word beautiful. It is a great post and is bitter sweet for me as I have tears in my eyes.*wipes tears* I bought my gf/wife a card and she laughed as she pointed out the fact that I spelt the word beautiful wrong.(was the last card she got) A Mother that would say you can't do X because ......blaa blaa. Going to Doctors Many times as a kid to have blood work,ears checked,eyes checked ect. to find out why I have problems in school. having only one sibling that's a straight A student. There is a long snowball effect as to the people you are comfortable in association. This is the only place I can bridge relationships with types I never have in the past. Unfortunately not everybodys"ready to make nice" You can not teach the man I am! No 'you'can not. |
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I'm guessing you're lashing out at me since I've been responding recently. I'm not one who goes around singling people out for spelling and grammar mistakes. I have suggested Firefox in threads like this, though.
If you need someone to be mad at and take it out on, fine, but other than that I can't see why you're getting pusses at me. |
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I've suggested using a browser, such as Firefox, for those who have issues with spelling. I don't go around correcting everyone, though. Does that mean I think I'm better or smarter than everyone? Of course not. I do think some use their lack of spelling and grammar skills as a reason to get angry and offended often, though. Like it or not, it is important to try to write well enough here for various people to understand you, as writing is the form of contact we're using. To say it doesn't matter at all makes no sense. Getting mad if someone skips over a wall of text with no punctuation is no one's fault but the person who wrote it that way.
Wow, that's really cool. Weird, but cool. 
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Keep the posts on the topic and not toward each other
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Edited by
isaac_dede
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Fri 11/22/13 02:33 PM
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I also think some people, like myself, come here just to participate in the forums, I am not putting 100% into the grammar and spelling of most of my post. I type pretty fast, and generally just let mistakes be just that...mistakes.
Now some people may judge me right off the bat, assuming my spelling and grammar says something about my the level of intelligence, well it does to a degree, it shows that I don't choose to focus my intellect on spelling and grammar, instead channeling it elsewhere. Sure, you could argue the fact that I may come off as stupid/ignorant or even lazy, that last one is probably pretty accurate, many of my posts are lazy. That is because I often come here to just shut my brain off. Sure i am capable of having every post be free of both grammar and spelling errors, but that would make writing a post to much like work for me, and really who wants to work when they are just looking to have fun? I like just typing what flows into my brain, often without a filter, why would I look my post over like it was being graded? This isn't one of many college papers I turn in every week, this is an open forum, where people come to "talk" have you ever heard the saying "don't write the way you speak?" well, if that is the case, and we want people to truly know who we are why wouldn't we write the way speak in this forum? Or are you telling me that all Grammar Nazi's speech patterns are free of grammatical error? Highly doubtful. Some people, who are highly intelligent also like playing the dumb-person on occasion, look up Phoebe from friends, the 'dumb' blond isn't all that dumb. But that is just one example, there are many more. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions about someone because to you they sound "uneducated" that doesn't necessarily mean that they are. |
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Won't get mad when corrected cus English wsn't my first language...some could be mad when corrected cuz they thought it was rude...But the best way to correct someone is to rephrase what they say with the correct spellings&grammars :) True! The time of joining this site was the first time I talked to people on the internet. English is my first language but years of unmemorable experiences with dyslexia and attention disorders would cause me to abandon the writing other that for tickets that I WANTED to obtain for my career choice. So I can learn a lot off of people here. I have helped some people that are learning and helped them with acronyms that I could see they didn't understand as they asked and it went right over this one persons head what they were really asking. I've helped people that I talked to on their thread about using the quote button opposed to posting the quote then posting as people can post in the middle and their post my be Misunderstood. I tell new English writers Not to copy off me because I'm not sure about everything. 
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