so dodo, would you treat a child taking five dollars from your wallet the same as the government coming and taking your home?

its not ALL THE SAME,, there is a varying level of IMPACT Between one type and another


crime is with us,, most crime is intraracial, some is interracial
we have a whole slew of pundits who regularly speak about 'black on black ' violence, although I hear next to nothing about 'white on white violenc',, even knowing MOST CRIME IS INTRARACIAL

so the claim that media somehow gives preference to black criminals is quite preposterous and most likely those alleging it would find it IMPOSSIBLE to back it up with any studies that include numbers


when we hear about black victimization, it is usually the reaction to a fear (often legitimate) that the victim will not receive justices,, which can actually be shown to have some merit with STATISTICAL analysis of how juries find when victims are black,,,

we hear about white victimization so often that its become EXPECTED, so that any mention of black victimization makes the short sighted go screaming inequality


there is no inequality against the white mainstream in reporting victimization,,,if there is, I would certainly like to see the actual 'proof' of it with some type of media study of how often these things get reported (and how often the offenders race is included or picture shown),,,,


if you are a neighbor who doesn't like blacks, you may make my life a little less comfortable with your glares, but your IMPACT is very slight on my life overall

if the justice system/media over represents the criminality or danger of 'blacks', however, the lives of millions of black children and men and women who must nteract with other races every day are threatened by that perception carrying over into how they are treated by police, or juries, or judges, or employees,,,


I care about that A WHOLE LOT MORE than I do isolated individuals with only a temporary impact on a specific situation,,,,

Ah, the old "apples and oranges" comparison. Go figure.

When people become victims of violent crime because of their race, that crime is worthy of reporting regardless of the race of the victims.

Ferals are what attacks and hurts,maims or kills for the pleasure of the act.

FU to whatever chithead my flag offends.

Yer Mama and Grandma also.

Yer very welcome!

I'm not sure if you mean me. I apologised earlier for making an assumption influenced by that flag. Your flag doesn't offend me. I was wrong.

Getting back to the topic of this thread . . .

No sir.
I respect your opinions.

Knock off the personal attacks

Kim

crimes are reported, to the justice system

in 2011 , 1.2 million were reported,, that's all including intra and interracial violent crim

are we expecting all 1.2 mill to find a spot on the news? cant be that illogical or na�ve,, I hope,,,


even if everyone of the crimes were committed by a black against a white (Which they definitely aren't, since the majority of crime is still INTRARACIAL),,

1.2 mill as a portion of 223 mill is less than half a percent of the white population affected by black on white violence, in reality tha impact is MUCH LESS SIGNIFICANT


if every crime however, were white against black, we would be talking 1.2 out of 38.9, a little under 3 percent of the black population


this is not a crime rate that alarms me one way or another,,and certainly not the 'racism' that poses a serious negative impact on white people,, who, like black people, victimize each other FAR more often than anyone else does

when it comes to crime,


but who seem to get justice as victims much more often,,,

Like Tonto said...."what you mean WE white man?"

lol,, and that is actually the funny and troublesome part of these conversations

people are too fearful, or obstinate, or na�ve to speak in terms of 'we',,,,when in fact there are many wes

we americans, which focuses on the history and issues in America

or we females, which focuses on the history and issues faced by women

or we blacks,which focuses on the history and issues faced by blacks

or we seniors, which focuses on the history and issues faced by senior citizens


or we mothers, which focuses on the obstacles mothers face

or we secretaries, which focuses on the daily concerns of secretaries,,,,

,and I could go on and on and on,,

in a world of billions and a country of hundreds of millions there are thousands of subgroups , 'we's, who share common ancestry or geographical concerns and issues or common political concerns and isses. or common community issues

,, if we could grow up enough to honestly discuss these groups in terms of issus an concerns they face, to listen and try to UNDERSTND the things they face (Without it having to be validated through some requirement they be concerns exclusive to the group),,, it would be a much more progressive and harmonious world



just my opinion

As a racist and liberal most don't care for your views.

It is pity you seem to seek.. Poor black man, whitey's holding him down... I actually feel sorry for you.

Whites outnumber blacks, blacks outnumber Asians, Asians outnumber American Indians. It's a numbers game! It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with stupidity, excuse and failure.

You talk the very poison you claim to be against, and when someone states a view contrary to yours, they must be racist.

Racism is an excuse, or result of manipulation. A tool, as any propaganda is.

You buy the excuse for your failures or you don't, but the choices you make are your own. Throwing fuel on a fire will never put it out, only accelerate the flame until it consumes all that will burn around it.

I wish not to be a part of your hateful prejudice, or an object to enable your hatred. I belong (partially) to a race the white man devastated, herded onto reservations, and to this day subjects to a basic form of slavery.....the American Indian.

So take your hatred elsewhere please, or try a positive form of conversation. You are only putting yourself down while trying to drag others with you......and most don't want to go there

Follow your leaders like Sharpton, Jackson and the rest who refuse to let you enjoy the equality you are granted, who bring violence to the equation for profit and their own self importance.

They are the destroyers, not us! Tell Oprah, Obama, Holder, Rice, Powell, any number of governors, mayors, senators and movie stars how the white man held them down......

for someone who doesn't want to take part,, I sure get a lot of winging back from you

in any case,, read further, this thread was not started by me,, but a usual, if I respond with anything other than one of the approved ataboy perceptions

like how Obama is the antichrist or the government is out to get us

mot don't care for my views

in this forum you may be right

because of course the very REAL persecution and conspiracy most here pat each other on the back for seeing, is far less an excuse, a manipulation or a tool for propaganda

so I Get it, I am the minority, the struggles I see don't matter so I will just shut up and let 'most' get on with discussing their concerns as they are much more interested (possibly quite naturally) in repetitive discussion about them


,,,do carry on, I will be cautious to try not to respond to ANY Threads 'most' start which in any way disparage or negatively stereotype any group I am a part of


lol


as if,,,

You are blinded by your own racism, viewing the world thru eyes that refuse to see.

I have bigger fish to fry..... my nation is under attack.... not one group of people

.......

The Guardian received data from the FBI
Begin Quote:
Communication’s Division, 304-625-4995.

They state emphatically that the Judicial System is not biased against minorities.

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are three times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.

Hispanics commit three times more violent crimes than whites, but the statistics are nebulous because sometimes they are classified as white, so it could be far higher.

The best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percent of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.

Forty-five percent of black crime is against whites, 43 against other blacks, and 10 percent against Hispanic.

Blacks are seven times more likely to go to prison, Hispanics three times, and the reason is clear, because from 1980 to 2003 the US incarceration rate has tripled, and so proves that Justice is not only hard won, but well served.
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
Verification of these claims comes from the sources below, extrapolation methods are verified by the New Century Foundation, http://www.amren.com/color.pdf.

From FBI:
Mr. LaRive:
The Uniform Crime Reporting Program does not collect the age, sex, or race of victims in conjunction with offenses reported to the police with the exception of murder and nonnegligent homicide. You will find the data on the race of victims of homicide at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_02.html.

Age, sex, and race of offenders are collected in conjunction with arrest data. You will find the arrest data by race at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_43.html. If you need further assistance with UCR Program data, please contact the FBI’s Communications Group at 304-625-4995.

http://neworleans.fbi.gov/ New Orleans FBI
http://www.fbi.gov/publications.htm FBI public publications
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm FBI Uniform Crime Reports
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm Department of Justice Statistics
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams081899.asp Walter Williams: The Ugly Conspiracy of Silence
http://www.amren.com/color.pdf The Color of Crime, Race, Crime, and Violence in America, New Century Foundation.
http://www.amren.com/store/colorcrime.htm American Renaissance
http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06-02.htm USA - Interracial crime at a glance and statistics.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp Snopes.com:Rumor has it
Knoxsville News Sentinal, “Fiction vs. Fact in the Christian-Newson Double Homicide.”
27 May 2007
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/rape.htm Interracial Rape Statistics
http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standarteslc/race05.html High numbers of back on white crime
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/hood.htm Crime in the Hood, Violent victimization of whites by blacks is modeled in a racially mixed inner-city neighborhood. Its evolution is traced from the first black to move in, to the last white who moves out. The probability of a white being violently attacked is developed as a function of a neighborhood's racial composition. It is shown to increase nonlinearly, approaching unity as a neighborhood becomes predominately black.
http://www.topix.net/forum/state/wv/TBN2MRV4327LH92PN High Numbers of Black on white crime, West Virginia Forum and Statistics from FBI
http://www.newnation.com/NNN-Black-on-White.html New nation News- Black on white crime, The color of crime, August 31, 2007

FBI Stasitics data regarding race and rates of arrests

too jumbled to review or verify and questionable ,,


her is one easily researched,,

although blacks have drug use commiserate with their percent of the population,(14 percent), , they are 37 percent of those arrested for drug offenses which make up HALF of the prison population,,,

So, if they are arrested because they committed a crime, then the problem is ????

KNOCKOUT

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If "we" could all just get together and cooperate, "we" could do any damn thing "we" wanted. As the demonstrators say "A people united can never be defeated!" and as the banksters say "We've even got the nuclear families divided against themselves now! Now we OWN them!"

You still have freedom of choice...Choose wisely...Unity, or Slavery?

just a question.