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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities Maybe Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter" race war was just late getting started?...I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just a CIA-engineered plot to keep the races fighting against one another instead of teaming up on the real enemy. "Divide and conquer" is as old as the hills. It amazes me that you stupid humans never caught on. |
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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities Possibly decades of stirring by the likes of Sharpton,Wright,Jackson,Farrakhan etc,giving African Americans a totally wrong idea of "Entitlement"! |
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Edited by
JustDukkyMkII
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Fri 11/08/13 01:49 AM
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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities Maybe Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter" race war was just late getting started?...I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just a CIA-engineered plot to keep the races fighting against one another instead of teaming up on the real enemy. "Divide and conquer" is as old as the hills. It amazes me that you stupid humans never caught on. In that case you'd better have your umbrella...What happened? Was the vote to have a GAI passed in Switzerland already? If so, the "Boys from Basel" must be beside themselves!...Hope they brought their umbrellas. LMAO |
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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities because of tunnelvision, I would say americans have this tendency to believe that if its in the news its an accurate reflection of the commonality or seriousness of a situation the author gathered four random incidents that involved interracial dynamics and jumped to a declaration this is some evidence of a 'growing number' of such incidents no one has yet to offer the actual numbers to answer the question growing compared to what? or,,, common based upon what definition? |
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Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 11/08/13 06:23 AM
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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities Maybe Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter" race war was just late getting started?...I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just a CIA-engineered plot to keep the races fighting against one another instead of teaming up on the real enemy. "Divide and conquer" is as old as the hills. It amazes me that you stupid humans never caught on. In that case you'd better have your umbrella...What happened? Was the vote to have a GAI passed in Switzerland already? If so, the "Boys from Basel" must be beside themselves!...Hope they brought their umbrellas. LMAO You really haven't got a Clue,do you? Liberals don't have the capacity to formulate clues Cause and effect are mission impossible! |
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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities Maybe Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter" race war was just late getting started?...I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just a CIA-engineered plot to keep the races fighting against one another instead of teaming up on the real enemy. "Divide and conquer" is as old as the hills. It amazes me that you stupid humans never caught on. You may very well be on to something here. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Fri 11/08/13 08:58 AM
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Okay, so this is totally regionalist and wrong of me, but when someone with a confederate flag image says: "thats what happens when you give [them] rights" ...after an OP specifically addressing violence done by black people I'm inclined to assume that the statement is racially motivated because: (a) there is a strong historical, cultural, media association between that flag and racism against blacks and (b) black people originally had no rights in this country and (from a historical perspective) were only recently ensured such rights and i've heard racists say that *exact* phrase in several different forums (without the word feral). My apologies for making that assumption, and for maybe disrespecting people from the south for doing so. One can spend a lot of time evaluating historical facts and assumptions. OP: Question is, why is there an increasingly common occurrence of Black mob violence on whites in many American cities Maybe Charlie Manson's "Helter Skelter" race war was just late getting started?...I'm pretty sure the whole thing is just a CIA-engineered plot to keep the races fighting against one another instead of teaming up on the real enemy. "Divide and conquer" is as old as the hills. It amazes me that you stupid humans never caught on. yep,the murderous Brute is now running the Show from Prison,instead of from Spahn Movie Ranch! |
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the author gathered four random incidents that involved interracial dynamics and jumped to a declaration this is some evidence of a 'growing number' of such incidents no one has yet to offer the actual numbers to answer the question growing compared to what? Yes, when I said something like "this is actually happening" I meant 'these incidents' not the claim that it is increasing. Even if there are higher numbers recently, to say that its 'increasing' can imply there is inertia behind the increase; that we must do something or it will continue to increase. An increase could be temporary - maybe encouraged by media magnified events from the last few years such as the Trayvon Martin killing. |
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the author gathered four random incidents that involved interracial dynamics and jumped to a declaration this is some evidence of a 'growing number' of such incidents no one has yet to offer the actual numbers to answer the question growing compared to what? Yes, when I said something like "this is actually happening" I meant 'these incidents' not the claim that it is increasing. Even if there are higher numbers recently, to say that its 'increasing' can imply there is inertia behind the increase; that we must do something or it will continue to increase. An increase could be temporary - maybe encouraged by media magnified events from the last few years such as the Trayvon Martin killing. these 'incidents' have always been happening though and it is still questionable whether there is any such 'inertia' or 'increase',,,actually happening Im pointing out that being able to find incidents of interracial crime really proves nothing except that interracial crime 'actually happen' |
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the author gathered four random incidents that involved interracial dynamics and jumped to a declaration this is some evidence of a 'growing number' of such incidents no one has yet to offer the actual numbers to answer the question growing compared to what? Yes, when I said something like "this is actually happening" I meant 'these incidents' not the claim that it is increasing. Even if there are higher numbers recently, to say that its 'increasing' can imply there is inertia behind the increase; that we must do something or it will continue to increase. An increase could be temporary - maybe encouraged by media magnified events from the last few years such as the Trayvon Martin killing. these 'incidents' have always been happening though and it is still questionable whether there is any such 'inertia' or 'increase',,,actually happening Im pointing out that being able to find incidents of interracial crime really proves nothing except that interracial crime 'actually happen' Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. |
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the author gathered four random incidents that involved interracial dynamics and jumped to a declaration this is some evidence of a 'growing number' of such incidents no one has yet to offer the actual numbers to answer the question growing compared to what? Yes, when I said something like "this is actually happening" I meant 'these incidents' not the claim that it is increasing. Even if there are higher numbers recently, to say that its 'increasing' can imply there is inertia behind the increase; that we must do something or it will continue to increase. An increase could be temporary - maybe encouraged by media magnified events from the last few years such as the Trayvon Martin killing. these 'incidents' have always been happening though and it is still questionable whether there is any such 'inertia' or 'increase',,,actually happening Im pointing out that being able to find incidents of interracial crime really proves nothing except that interracial crime 'actually happen' Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. If you do a search of all news stories of this nature most will report they are not treated as hate crimes either. |
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Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. I don't think its unreasonable for Ms Harmony or anyone else to meet these articles with some skepticism. All sides of an issue has people taking things out of context, cherry picking, distorting. There IS something happening today, though, in the way people perceive racism and respond to it - and I personally believe that it (some of directly, most of it indirectly) encourages violence against white people. And then we have: Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism.
Bored said: If you do a search of all news stories of this nature most will report they are not treated as hate crimes either.
I've noticed that first hand, also. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. In many communities, trying to talk about this is seen as a clear sign that you are a racist. You are not allowed to talk about this. |
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Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. I don't think its unreasonable for Ms Harmony or anyone else to meet these articles with some skepticism. All sides of an issue has people taking things out of context, cherry picking, distorting. There IS something happening today, though, in the way people perceive racism and respond to it - and I personally believe that it (some of directly, most of it indirectly) encourages violence against white people. And then we have: Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism.
Bored said: If you do a search of all news stories of this nature most will report they are not treated as hate crimes either.
I've noticed that first hand, also. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. In many communities, trying to talk about this is seen as a clear sign that you are a racist. You are not allowed to talk about this. Yeah, racists don't want anyone to talk about it. |
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Yeah, racists don't want anyone to talk about it. A lot of these people who insist that "Anyone who [raises that topic] is a racist!" are just dumb. Some of them earnestly want to make the world a better place and eliminate racism, but they have NO idea that they are actually promoting race hatred by embracing and advocating the beliefs they have. |
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Yeah, racists don't want anyone to talk about it. A lot of these people who insist that "Anyone who [raises that topic] is a racist!" are just dumb. Some of them earnestly want to make the world a better place and eliminate racism, but they have NO idea that they are actually promoting race hatred by embracing and advocating the beliefs they have. The point of my OP is that acts of racism are not treated equally by the American press. If a black American claims "racism", then we are supposed to give the one making the claim the benefit of the doubt. If a white American claims "racism", then we are supposed to be somewhat skeptical. If you really believe that all races are equal -as I do- then you are going to treat all acts of racism equally, and you are going to treat all claim of racism equally. |
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the author gathered four random incidents that involved interracial dynamics and jumped to a declaration this is some evidence of a 'growing number' of such incidents no one has yet to offer the actual numbers to answer the question growing compared to what? Yes, when I said something like "this is actually happening" I meant 'these incidents' not the claim that it is increasing. Even if there are higher numbers recently, to say that its 'increasing' can imply there is inertia behind the increase; that we must do something or it will continue to increase. An increase could be temporary - maybe encouraged by media magnified events from the last few years such as the Trayvon Martin killing. these 'incidents' have always been happening though and it is still questionable whether there is any such 'inertia' or 'increase',,,actually happening Im pointing out that being able to find incidents of interracial crime really proves nothing except that interracial crime 'actually happen' Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. there is nothing in the op that provides any information about the nature of the 'crime' being racial,, there is only reference to the race of the offender (with little about whether all the 'victims' were white) so again, there is nothing there to report that's any different than the mob attacks where whites hurt other whites and as far as black victims vs white victims, I beg to differ,,,,I see and would bet that studies would show, media reports much more often about white victims than black victims and more about black offenders than white ones,,, when it comes to interracial crime,,,,the only difference is, people get upset that when blacks are the victim of a crime that seems as if it will go unpunished,, they have the gall to unite and protest for justice to be served what makes 'national' news is perceived injustice, and sensational stories like child victims (most often pictured when they are white children by the way),,,,, |
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Yeah, racists don't want anyone to talk about it. A lot of these people who insist that "Anyone who [raises that topic] is a racist!" are just dumb. Some of them earnestly want to make the world a better place and eliminate racism, but they have NO idea that they are actually promoting race hatred by embracing and advocating the beliefs they have. Good point! |
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Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. I don't think its unreasonable for Ms Harmony or anyone else to meet these articles with some skepticism. All sides of an issue has people taking things out of context, cherry picking, distorting. There IS something happening today, though, in the way people perceive racism and respond to it - and I personally believe that it (some of directly, most of it indirectly) encourages violence against white people. And then we have: Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism.
Bored said: If you do a search of all news stories of this nature most will report they are not treated as hate crimes either.
I've noticed that first hand, also. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. In many communities, trying to talk about this is seen as a clear sign that you are a racist. You are not allowed to talk about this. Yeah, racists don't want anyone to talk about it. I welcome anyone to show the evidence that acts of racism against whites is underreported,,,,specifically that interracial crime is (since none but one of the above stories has any inkling of a race based motivation) every interracial crime is not a hate crime, criminals are bound to sometimes attack people of a different race, perhaps more to be expected from blacks statistically because they are so much more likely to be ENCOUNTERING those of a different race but a hate crime is a specific thing that requires the MOTIVE To be based in bigotry towards a group by race, gender, sexual orientation ,, destruction of property and looting a campus doesn't qualify,,, |
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From the OP:
The New York Daily News did cover the recent beating of a white couple, but dismissed the idea that the attack was race-fueled - despite witnesses reporting the attackers' spewing racial epithets.
Move along, Folks. No racism to see here despite the racial epithets spewed by the attackers. /sarc |
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Attempting to minimize the racist violence in America doesn't do away with it. I don't think its unreasonable for Ms Harmony or anyone else to meet these articles with some skepticism. All sides of an issue has people taking things out of context, cherry picking, distorting. There IS something happening today, though, in the way people perceive racism and respond to it - and I personally believe that it (some of directly, most of it indirectly) encourages violence against white people. And then we have: Real people are being physically harmed by acts of racism.
Bored said: If you do a search of all news stories of this nature most will report they are not treated as hate crimes either.
I've noticed that first hand, also. When black Americans are harmed like that, the story makes national news and is talked about by all of the major news networks. When white Americans are harmed physically by acts of racism, the story is ignored at a national level, and the racist nature of the acts isn't acknowledged. Now, that is racism institutionalized in the American media. In many communities, trying to talk about this is seen as a clear sign that you are a racist. You are not allowed to talk about this. Yeah, racists don't want anyone to talk about it. Especially professional race baiters like Al not so Sharpton. |
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