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Topic: hidden racism continues..
msharmony's photo
Tue 10/29/13 11:38 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/29/13 11:40 AM








Inquiring minds want to know.......

Why is it that the ones who seem to protest racism are the very ones who seem to wish it remain an issue?



logical minds want to know,, how can you protest something without it first BEING an issue?

how does protesting equate to 'wishing' it be an issue?


Perhaps you should be arguing your case with others like yourself who want to make race an issue.....

perhaps the KKK or the NBPP?

Don't think you'll find many of that thought process here....unless you wish to create them for your own peace of mind..... but don't expect too many of us to side with your discontent.... we don't consider race an issue as you seem to.


thank you for your bonesty,,

I will leave the 'many of you' alone to gripe instead about the 'issue' of one man in the oval office,,,


we all can choose what is important to us, foolish of me to think anti black racism would be one of those 'issues' amongst those who are majority,, NOT BLACK,,,lol


well, at least not here, don't want to take away from the many colors, shapes and sizes of people who do think racism is a relevant 'issue' to be addressed and discussed

not a population that I am amongst,, obviously,,


I got it, a government that oppresses millions and affords them fewer freedoms than any other citizens, over a hundred years and the prolonged affect is not an issue

a man , who has a maximum of eight years to be a PART of government that is 'taking away freedoms' ,,BIG ISSUE

sorry if the issues that concern me just don't align with the majority here,, it is quite pointless apparently for me to try to hold any discussion about them


Perhaps if you truly thought racism was an issue you could lobby to do away with minority privilege to the white house?



lol @ minority privilege,, WHERE?


1 black senator out of 100
1 black president in over 250 years

what PRIVILEGE are you seeing exactly?


Take off your racist blinders..... they were elected by their peers.....just like the POTUS


great, that make sit not a problem for anyone from a the MAJORITY, whose 'peers' will be most likely to win most votes,, huh?

that in mind, IM back to asking, what 'privilege' you refer to,,,?

cause I see a very specific PRIVILEGE In being 'born' into that majority, through no special merit or effort of ones own, and therefore being much better assured of representation than others not born into the fold,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 10/29/13 11:42 AM









Inquiring minds want to know.......

Why is it that the ones who seem to protest racism are the very ones who seem to wish it remain an issue?



logical minds want to know,, how can you protest something without it first BEING an issue?

how does protesting equate to 'wishing' it be an issue?


Perhaps you should be arguing your case with others like yourself who want to make race an issue.....

perhaps the KKK or the NBPP?

Don't think you'll find many of that thought process here....unless you wish to create them for your own peace of mind..... but don't expect too many of us to side with your discontent.... we don't consider race an issue as you seem to.


thank you for your bonesty,,

I will leave the 'many of you' alone to gripe instead about the 'issue' of one man in the oval office,,,


we all can choose what is important to us, foolish of me to think anti black racism would be one of those 'issues' amongst those who are majority,, NOT BLACK,,,lol


well, at least not here, don't want to take away from the many colors, shapes and sizes of people who do think racism is a relevant 'issue' to be addressed and discussed

not a population that I am amongst,, obviously,,


I got it, a government that oppresses millions and affords them fewer freedoms than any other citizens, over a hundred years and the prolonged affect is not an issue

a man , who has a maximum of eight years to be a PART of government that is 'taking away freedoms' ,,BIG ISSUE

sorry if the issues that concern me just don't align with the majority here,, it is quite pointless apparently for me to try to hold any discussion about them


Perhaps if you truly thought racism was an issue you could lobby to do away with minority privilege to the white house?



lol @ minority privilege,, WHERE?


1 black senator out of 100
1 black president in over 250 years

what PRIVILEGE are you seeing exactly?


Take off your racist blinders..... they were elected by their peers.....just like the POTUS


great, that make sit not a problem for anyone from a the MAJORITY, whose 'peers' will be most likely to win most votes,, huh?

that in mind, IM back to asking, what 'privilege' you refer to,,,?

cause I see a very specific PRIVILEGE In being 'born' into that majority, through no special merit or effort of ones own, and therefore being much better assured of representation than others not born into the fold,,,


Jobs
Housing
grants
Education

need I go on?

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/29/13 11:46 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/29/13 11:47 AM










Inquiring minds want to know.......

Why is it that the ones who seem to protest racism are the very ones who seem to wish it remain an issue?



logical minds want to know,, how can you protest something without it first BEING an issue?

how does protesting equate to 'wishing' it be an issue?


Perhaps you should be arguing your case with others like yourself who want to make race an issue.....

perhaps the KKK or the NBPP?

Don't think you'll find many of that thought process here....unless you wish to create them for your own peace of mind..... but don't expect too many of us to side with your discontent.... we don't consider race an issue as you seem to.


thank you for your bonesty,,

I will leave the 'many of you' alone to gripe instead about the 'issue' of one man in the oval office,,,


we all can choose what is important to us, foolish of me to think anti black racism would be one of those 'issues' amongst those who are majority,, NOT BLACK,,,lol


well, at least not here, don't want to take away from the many colors, shapes and sizes of people who do think racism is a relevant 'issue' to be addressed and discussed

not a population that I am amongst,, obviously,,


I got it, a government that oppresses millions and affords them fewer freedoms than any other citizens, over a hundred years and the prolonged affect is not an issue

a man , who has a maximum of eight years to be a PART of government that is 'taking away freedoms' ,,BIG ISSUE

sorry if the issues that concern me just don't align with the majority here,, it is quite pointless apparently for me to try to hold any discussion about them


Perhaps if you truly thought racism was an issue you could lobby to do away with minority privilege to the white house?



lol @ minority privilege,, WHERE?


1 black senator out of 100
1 black president in over 250 years

what PRIVILEGE are you seeing exactly?


Take off your racist blinders..... they were elected by their peers.....just like the POTUS


great, that make sit not a problem for anyone from a the MAJORITY, whose 'peers' will be most likely to win most votes,, huh?

that in mind, IM back to asking, what 'privilege' you refer to,,,?

cause I see a very specific PRIVILEGE In being 'born' into that majority, through no special merit or effort of ones own, and therefore being much better assured of representation than others not born into the fold,,,


Jobs
Housing
grants
Education

need I go on?



jobs? blacks are continually at a rate of unemployment twice of whites

housing? 70 percent of whites own their homes compared to 50 percent of blacks


grants? there is no possible way to assess the numbers of grants anyone is getting by race

education? there is no 'privilege' afforded to blacks that is not afforded to whites as well,,,


in fact, by nature of years of 'privlege' whites had to acquire wealth and networks, they are much more likely to be able to send their kids to the 'good' schools and get homes in the 'good' neighborhoods

,,,yes, if you could find SOMEPLACE that actually shows a 'privilege' blacks have,,,,?

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/29/13 11:48 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/29/13 11:50 AM

One form of institutional racism is called Affirmative Action. It uses race to determine if a person will be granted something.

If one speaks against the institutional racism called Affirmative Action, then I will believe that one is seriously opposed to institutional racism.


IM surprised dodo

I have pointed out several times in this thread where AA is EXACTLY The opposite of this lie that gets repeated

its to ensure people are NOT DISCRIMINATED Against based upon race

of course, if you can point me towards a law that requires the use of race to grant someone something ,,ID be glad to review it further,,,


whoa

with the exception of PUNITIVE actions which seek to justify those cases where an entity is PROVEN To already be excluding a group and are ordered to START INCLUDING Them,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 10/29/13 11:55 AM

Your views are more racist than anyone I know...so again I bid adieu to your racist, bias, and unprincipled opinions. They do not fit in the world I wish to enjoy

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/29/13 11:58 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/29/13 11:59 AM


Your views are more racist than anyone I know...so again I bid adieu to your racist, bias, and unprincipled opinions. They do not fit in the world I wish to enjoy


yes, I am so privileged and racist , its scary,,,lol


yes, please do enjoy a majority run/stat run world

those of us who don't see anything but repeated bad history in such a goal, will excuse ourself from the constant ranting of how the government is so 'unfair' to taxpayers,,, out of respect for your bowing out of a conversation of how the system is 'unfair' to minorities,,,


not being a minority, it would be above and beyond for you to care,,

no hard feelings,,,flowerforyou

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 10/29/13 12:11 PM



Your views are more racist than anyone I know...so again I bid adieu to your racist, bias, and unprincipled opinions. They do not fit in the world I wish to enjoy


yes, I am so privileged and racist , its scary,,,lol


yes, please do enjoy a majority run/stat run world

those of us who don't see anything but repeated bad history in such a goal, will excuse ourself from the constant ranting of how the government is so 'unfair' to taxpayers,,, out of respect for your bowing out of a conversation of how the system is 'unfair' to minorities,,,


not being a minority, it would be above and beyond for you to care,,

no hard feelings,,,flowerforyou


You judge me without knowing me or anything about me.....but your not bias or racist..... go figure!

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/29/13 12:14 PM




Your views are more racist than anyone I know...so again I bid adieu to your racist, bias, and unprincipled opinions. They do not fit in the world I wish to enjoy


yes, I am so privileged and racist , its scary,,,lol


yes, please do enjoy a majority run/stat run world

those of us who don't see anything but repeated bad history in such a goal, will excuse ourself from the constant ranting of how the government is so 'unfair' to taxpayers,,, out of respect for your bowing out of a conversation of how the system is 'unfair' to minorities,,,


not being a minority, it would be above and beyond for you to care,,

no hard feelings,,,flowerforyou


You judge me without knowing me or anything about me.....but your not bias or racist..... go figure!


oh, but my 'judgment; is not about a bias or racism, its about what your posts contain

and the way they are delivered

respecting you for 'bowing' out of what you oviously have no inkling about (racism) and leaving you to that which seems to occupy your priorities (government oppression)

is not a judgment at all,, its granting what was asked for ,,

or so I thought

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 10/29/13 12:16 PM




To expand on my last comment... I had a liberal girlfriend who did a report on racism for college. Her conclusion was that "racism" could be found anywhere if one looked hard enough. Even if it didn't actually exists... So perhaps we need to ask ourselves from a philosophical standpoint; "Is looking for racism causing racism to exist where it otherwise wouldn't?" At least in part... And, "At what point are we finding things that aren't real?"


I only go on my own experience and white racism is pretty rampant especially in the area of where they are ignorant of their own racism that they were taught and perpetuate. Whites don't even realize they are racists quite often.

I speak on my races racism because I am in a position to be exposed to it by them.


Luckily I have been exposed to very little racism. We don't teach it to our kids up here. I count my blessings for that. However I have been discriminated against in the work environment, on one job. Fortunately it was a retail job, and therefore a temporary situation.

I have also seen one or two instances where friends applying to college have been turned down for other, less qualified applicants, as the school needed (or wanted)to keep diverse numbers.

I have also heard from a close friend, of an accident he was in caused by a drunken driver, who had an open vodka bottle, no drivers license, and no insurance, yet was not arrested. (Turns out the driver was an illegal immigrant. So admittedly this situation had more to do with paperwork and bureaucracy than it did racism.)



this is another interesting one to me, as I have NEVER been in a position when not getting accepted (to college, or a job) that I had someone contact me to tell me who was accepted/hired and what their qualifications were

NOT ONCE,,,


I know this information because i met these people and got to know them. Both parties. I also know people in the system who have admitted to having certain "numbers" quotas. No, no one ever called my friends and said "we decided to admit this person who had **** qualifications instead of you".

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/29/13 12:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 10/29/13 12:27 PM
gotcha, as far as I remember

(from my mothers days as an EEO INVESTIGATOR)

quotas are illegal unless ordered by a judge

if ordered by a judge they are as a PUNITIVE measure when PAST DISCRIMINATIN HAS been legally proven ,,,,,

if quotas exist its because someone somewhere, the entity, the company was shown to have been practicing discrimination,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 10/29/13 12:34 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 10/29/13 12:37 PM





Your views are more racist than anyone I know...so again I bid adieu to your racist, bias, and unprincipled opinions. They do not fit in the world I wish to enjoy


yes, I am so privileged and racist , its scary,,,lol


yes, please do enjoy a majority run/stat run world

those of us who don't see anything but repeated bad history in such a goal, will excuse ourself from the constant ranting of how the government is so 'unfair' to taxpayers,,, out of respect for your bowing out of a conversation of how the system is 'unfair' to minorities,,,


not being a minority, it would be above and beyond for you to care,,

no hard feelings,,,flowerforyou


You judge me without knowing me or anything about me.....but your not bias or racist..... go figure!


oh, but my 'judgment; is not about a bias or racism, its about what your posts contain

and the way they are delivered

respecting you for 'bowing' out of what you oviously have no inkling about (racism) and leaving you to that which seems to occupy your priorities (government oppression)

is not a judgment at all,, its granting what was asked for ,,

or so I thought


You think you are a minority....my heritage is American Indian.... My ancestors were decimated, forced on reservations, starved, treated worse than animals, but I still love this country and reject those who would destroy it. I have fought to defend it, our constitution and the flag.....

Something you wouldn't understand obviously..... but

Nice try

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 10/29/13 12:36 PM
This topic has ran it's course and apparent that it can not be discussed in a civil way

Kim

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