Topic: hidden racism continues..
msharmony's photo
Mon 10/28/13 11:58 AM



I just wanted to say that when I first saw the name of the post. My first thought was it wasn't hidden well enough since someone found it. hahaha



laugh laugh

IM so guilty,,lol

ur funny izzy

I think the same thing whenever I see posts about how the media doesn't report this or that or how something is so highly secret,,, yet its on a mingle forum,,,lol


you got me
drinker drinker


I actually had a bigger laugh at the title of a documentary on Netflix called the secrets of the secret service. How secret could they be if they're in that documentary and on Netflix? lol



right?

seems people forgot the meaning of 'secret'

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:00 PM







and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum

no photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:01 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Mon 10/28/13 12:03 PM



I am concerned however with INSTITUTIONAL racism , if there is a cultural acceptance of certain stereotypes and attitudes that validate those in powers of oppression to continue to oppress,,


You are correct to say "if", because you keep referring to something that may not be as nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

Meanwhile, real acts of modern-day racism remain ignored because of who is committing the acts.

African-American economist Thomas Sowell writes the following.

For American society, a dangerous polarization has set in. Signs of this polarization over the years include opposite reactions between blacks and whites to verdicts in the O.J. Simpson murder case, the "rape" charges against Duke University students, and trials resulting from the beating of Rodney King and the death of Trayvon Martin.

More dangerous than these highly publicized episodes over the years are innumerable organized and unprovoked physical attacks on whites by young black gangs in shopping malls, on beaches and in other public places all across the country today.

While some of these attacks make it into the media as isolated incidents, the nationwide pattern of organized black on white attacks by thugs remains invisible in the mainstream media, with the notable exception of Bill O'Reilly on the Fox News Channel.

Even when these attacks are accompanied by shouts of anti-white rhetoric and exultant laughter at the carnage, the racial makeup of the attackers and their victims is usually ignored by the media, and public officials often deny that race has anything to do with what happened.

These attacks have sent many people to the hospital, and some have died, but the attacks are often carried out in a festive atmosphere. What are called "troubled youths," in this and other contexts, are often in fact young people enjoying themselves greatly by creating big trouble for others.

Some of these many attacks are covered in detail in a book titled "White Girl Bleed A Lot" by Colin Flaherty. It was a phrase that I recognized immediately, from my own previous research.

That phrase was uttered by one of a group of black attackers who descended on a group of whites at a July 4th fireworks show in Milwaukee. But what happened there was not unique, either in itself or in the efforts of police and political authorities to play down what happened -- and to say that race had nothing to do with it.

When the Chicago Tribune was criticized for editing out the race of the attackers in a series of similar organized attacks in Chicago, it replied that race was irrelevant. Yet race is not considered irrelevant when indignantly editorializing on a disproportionate number of young black males arrested and imprisoned.


Quote Source



Sowell has his own agenda so it isn't unbiased nor do all black folks have the same view of what the issues are for blacks in this country. They are still digging out from the damage done to their families and societies from slavery. Many have different views on how they can fix it. Some is constructive, some is off the wall bat shyte. One thing for sure, whites, who are most definitely ignorant of how to fix these problems reading the blacks who voice their opinions on these problems have very little constructive views to add to the conversation because they can't speak on what they don't know.

The problem with black on white crime for some people is "you do understand their frustration and anger". After observing the white prejudice I have seen against black folks, I personally know I would be in jail for a or a few very heinous crime/s if I were born black in this country. The issue I have is, were they instigated by some racists whites? Most likely yea, just from what I have seen. White racism is the norm in this country. It is taught from birth to whites and isn't identified as racism to the children. These whites go through their life perpetrating these racisms on whoever non white is lucky enough to have to deal with them. It sucks to be non white in this country.



I guess it would be a pretty hard sell to convince people that a black conservative who speaks out against Obama is racist ...Much easier to sell the idea that Thomas Sowell is a biased man pushing "his own" agenda...Making an excuse for black on white crime based on slavery is not only a stretch, it's irrational...The reason we have laws against crime is because criminal acts are inexcusable in a civilized society...Blacks have never had to "dig out" from the damage done by slavery... Whites did (and still do) that for them...Racism in America is not about race as much as it is about an excuse for dodging responsibility...Black liberals cry racism every time the president is criticized...When liberalism fails, liberals cry racism....When the Democratic party gets in trouble, liberals cry racism...Racism exists and will always exist...In spitie of that fact, we live in a nation that has a black (almost) president, a black Attorney General, and a government that is more than happy to legally discriminate against whites on a daily basis...Even so, you can't go one day without hearing liberals whining about what a racist country they live in...It's pitiful....

mightymoe's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:02 PM








and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum


um wrong... thinking about robbing a bank is one think... when you plan it out and do everything but the acual robery is still illegal... barry went before congress to get their aproval, and it was denied... looks like someone wanted to rob a bank

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:08 PM









and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum


um wrong... thinking about robbing a bank is one think... when you plan it out and do everything but the acual robery is still illegal... barry went before congress to get their aproval, and it was denied... looks like someone wanted to rob a bank



I don't think you know what you are talking about,, sorry...

can you show where the president made a request to go to war with Syria

or where there was anything illegal in sending something to congress for approval?


izzyphoto1977's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:09 PM









and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum


um wrong... thinking about robbing a bank is one think... when you plan it out and do everything but the acual robery is still illegal... barry went before congress to get their aproval, and it was denied... looks like someone wanted to rob a bank


I just wanted to say one thing since you started talking about conspiracy to rob a bank. Conspiracy is really hard to prove. Unless you have a co-conspirator or an undercover agent it can be really hard to prove. Then there are the idiot that pretty much advertise their plans. Like a retarded person saying they want to start a gang in a small toan where everyone knows everyone. hahaha

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:15 PM
I want to take a moment here to clarify that robbing the bank was an idea that existed only in my head, and never manifested into any action or plan,,alone or with others, lol

,,,,carry on,,,

izzyphoto1977's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:18 PM

I want to take a moment here to clarify that robbing the bank was an idea that existed only in my head, and never manifested into any action or plan,,alone or with others, lol

,,,,carry on,,,


Tell it to the judge. hahaha

I'm sure lots of us have had that thought. Robbing a bank a gas station or maybe a cssino. I hope must people that have that thought don't go through it. hahaha

mightymoe's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:21 PM










and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum


um wrong... thinking about robbing a bank is one think... when you plan it out and do everything but the acual robery is still illegal... barry went before congress to get their aproval, and it was denied... looks like someone wanted to rob a bank



I don't think you know what you are talking about,, sorry...

can you show where the president made a request to go to war with Syria

or where there was anything illegal in sending something to congress for approval?



i'm sorry, you'll just have to figure it out on your own...
i can't explain everything to liberals all the time, when i know you know anyway... good luck with that

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:22 PM




I am concerned however with INSTITUTIONAL racism , if there is a cultural acceptance of certain stereotypes and attitudes that validate those in powers of oppression to continue to oppress,,


You are correct to say "if", because you keep referring to something that may not be as nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

Meanwhile, real acts of modern-day racism remain ignored because of who is committing the acts.

African-American economist Thomas Sowell writes the following.

For American society, a dangerous polarization has set in. Signs of this polarization over the years include opposite reactions between blacks and whites to verdicts in the O.J. Simpson murder case, the "rape" charges against Duke University students, and trials resulting from the beating of Rodney King and the death of Trayvon Martin.

More dangerous than these highly publicized episodes over the years are innumerable organized and unprovoked physical attacks on whites by young black gangs in shopping malls, on beaches and in other public places all across the country today.

While some of these attacks make it into the media as isolated incidents, the nationwide pattern of organized black on white attacks by thugs remains invisible in the mainstream media, with the notable exception of Bill O'Reilly on the Fox News Channel.

Even when these attacks are accompanied by shouts of anti-white rhetoric and exultant laughter at the carnage, the racial makeup of the attackers and their victims is usually ignored by the media, and public officials often deny that race has anything to do with what happened.

These attacks have sent many people to the hospital, and some have died, but the attacks are often carried out in a festive atmosphere. What are called "troubled youths," in this and other contexts, are often in fact young people enjoying themselves greatly by creating big trouble for others.

Some of these many attacks are covered in detail in a book titled "White Girl Bleed A Lot" by Colin Flaherty. It was a phrase that I recognized immediately, from my own previous research.

That phrase was uttered by one of a group of black attackers who descended on a group of whites at a July 4th fireworks show in Milwaukee. But what happened there was not unique, either in itself or in the efforts of police and political authorities to play down what happened -- and to say that race had nothing to do with it.

When the Chicago Tribune was criticized for editing out the race of the attackers in a series of similar organized attacks in Chicago, it replied that race was irrelevant. Yet race is not considered irrelevant when indignantly editorializing on a disproportionate number of young black males arrested and imprisoned.


Quote Source



Sowell has his own agenda so it isn't unbiased nor do all black folks have the same view of what the issues are for blacks in this country. They are still digging out from the damage done to their families and societies from slavery. Many have different views on how they can fix it. Some is constructive, some is off the wall bat shyte. One thing for sure, whites, who are most definitely ignorant of how to fix these problems reading the blacks who voice their opinions on these problems have very little constructive views to add to the conversation because they can't speak on what they don't know.

The problem with black on white crime for some people is "you do understand their frustration and anger". After observing the white prejudice I have seen against black folks, I personally know I would be in jail for a or a few very heinous crime/s if I were born black in this country. The issue I have is, were they instigated by some racists whites? Most likely yea, just from what I have seen. White racism is the norm in this country. It is taught from birth to whites and isn't identified as racism to the children. These whites go through their life perpetrating these racisms on whoever non white is lucky enough to have to deal with them. It sucks to be non white in this country.



I guess it would be a pretty hard sell to convince people that a black conservative who speaks out against Obama is racist ...Much easier to sell the idea that Thomas Sowell is a biased man pushing "his own" agenda...Making an excuse for black on white crime based on slavery is not only a stretch, it's irrational...The reason we have laws against crime is because criminal acts are inexcusable in a civilized society...Blacks have never had to "dig out" from the damage done by slavery... Whites did (and still do) that for them...Racism in America is not about race as much as it is about an excuse for dodging responsibility...Black liberals cry racism every time the president is criticized...When liberalism fails, liberals cry racism....When the Democratic party gets in trouble, liberals cry racism...Racism exists and will always exist...In spitie of that fact, we live in a nation that has a black (almost) president, a black Attorney General, and a government that is more than happy to legally discriminate against whites on a daily basis...Even so, you can't go one day without hearing liberals whining about what a racist country they live in...It's pitiful....



I feel the same way

cant go one day without hearing conservatives (some of them racist) whining about what a terrible (coincidentally black) president we have and how he is singlehandedly causing Americas demise,,,,


I Agree, it is pitiful

mightymoe's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:28 PM





I am concerned however with INSTITUTIONAL racism , if there is a cultural acceptance of certain stereotypes and attitudes that validate those in powers of oppression to continue to oppress,,


You are correct to say "if", because you keep referring to something that may not be as nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

Meanwhile, real acts of modern-day racism remain ignored because of who is committing the acts.

African-American economist Thomas Sowell writes the following.

For American society, a dangerous polarization has set in. Signs of this polarization over the years include opposite reactions between blacks and whites to verdicts in the O.J. Simpson murder case, the "rape" charges against Duke University students, and trials resulting from the beating of Rodney King and the death of Trayvon Martin.

More dangerous than these highly publicized episodes over the years are innumerable organized and unprovoked physical attacks on whites by young black gangs in shopping malls, on beaches and in other public places all across the country today.

While some of these attacks make it into the media as isolated incidents, the nationwide pattern of organized black on white attacks by thugs remains invisible in the mainstream media, with the notable exception of Bill O'Reilly on the Fox News Channel.

Even when these attacks are accompanied by shouts of anti-white rhetoric and exultant laughter at the carnage, the racial makeup of the attackers and their victims is usually ignored by the media, and public officials often deny that race has anything to do with what happened.

These attacks have sent many people to the hospital, and some have died, but the attacks are often carried out in a festive atmosphere. What are called "troubled youths," in this and other contexts, are often in fact young people enjoying themselves greatly by creating big trouble for others.

Some of these many attacks are covered in detail in a book titled "White Girl Bleed A Lot" by Colin Flaherty. It was a phrase that I recognized immediately, from my own previous research.

That phrase was uttered by one of a group of black attackers who descended on a group of whites at a July 4th fireworks show in Milwaukee. But what happened there was not unique, either in itself or in the efforts of police and political authorities to play down what happened -- and to say that race had nothing to do with it.

When the Chicago Tribune was criticized for editing out the race of the attackers in a series of similar organized attacks in Chicago, it replied that race was irrelevant. Yet race is not considered irrelevant when indignantly editorializing on a disproportionate number of young black males arrested and imprisoned.


Quote Source



Sowell has his own agenda so it isn't unbiased nor do all black folks have the same view of what the issues are for blacks in this country. They are still digging out from the damage done to their families and societies from slavery. Many have different views on how they can fix it. Some is constructive, some is off the wall bat shyte. One thing for sure, whites, who are most definitely ignorant of how to fix these problems reading the blacks who voice their opinions on these problems have very little constructive views to add to the conversation because they can't speak on what they don't know.

The problem with black on white crime for some people is "you do understand their frustration and anger". After observing the white prejudice I have seen against black folks, I personally know I would be in jail for a or a few very heinous crime/s if I were born black in this country. The issue I have is, were they instigated by some racists whites? Most likely yea, just from what I have seen. White racism is the norm in this country. It is taught from birth to whites and isn't identified as racism to the children. These whites go through their life perpetrating these racisms on whoever non white is lucky enough to have to deal with them. It sucks to be non white in this country.



I guess it would be a pretty hard sell to convince people that a black conservative who speaks out against Obama is racist ...Much easier to sell the idea that Thomas Sowell is a biased man pushing "his own" agenda...Making an excuse for black on white crime based on slavery is not only a stretch, it's irrational...The reason we have laws against crime is because criminal acts are inexcusable in a civilized society...Blacks have never had to "dig out" from the damage done by slavery... Whites did (and still do) that for them...Racism in America is not about race as much as it is about an excuse for dodging responsibility...Black liberals cry racism every time the president is criticized...When liberalism fails, liberals cry racism....When the Democratic party gets in trouble, liberals cry racism...Racism exists and will always exist...In spitie of that fact, we live in a nation that has a black (almost) president, a black Attorney General, and a government that is more than happy to legally discriminate against whites on a daily basis...Even so, you can't go one day without hearing liberals whining about what a racist country they live in...It's pitiful....



I feel the same way

cant go one day without hearing conservatives (some of them racist) whining about what a terrible (coincidentally black) president we have and how he is singlehandedly causing Americas demise,,,,


I Agree, it is pitiful


yep, blame it on the black man... after all, it can't just be a MAN thats not doing his job... it's BLACK MAN that everyone hates because he is black thats not doing his job...(i'm hoping you can see the difference there, the sympathy for being black that overrides the "not doing his job" part)

i wonder why i wasn't racist when i didn't like bush either? life's little mysteries, huh...

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/28/13 12:32 PM






I am concerned however with INSTITUTIONAL racism , if there is a cultural acceptance of certain stereotypes and attitudes that validate those in powers of oppression to continue to oppress,,


You are correct to say "if", because you keep referring to something that may not be as nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

Meanwhile, real acts of modern-day racism remain ignored because of who is committing the acts.

African-American economist Thomas Sowell writes the following.

For American society, a dangerous polarization has set in. Signs of this polarization over the years include opposite reactions between blacks and whites to verdicts in the O.J. Simpson murder case, the "rape" charges against Duke University students, and trials resulting from the beating of Rodney King and the death of Trayvon Martin.

More dangerous than these highly publicized episodes over the years are innumerable organized and unprovoked physical attacks on whites by young black gangs in shopping malls, on beaches and in other public places all across the country today.

While some of these attacks make it into the media as isolated incidents, the nationwide pattern of organized black on white attacks by thugs remains invisible in the mainstream media, with the notable exception of Bill O'Reilly on the Fox News Channel.

Even when these attacks are accompanied by shouts of anti-white rhetoric and exultant laughter at the carnage, the racial makeup of the attackers and their victims is usually ignored by the media, and public officials often deny that race has anything to do with what happened.

These attacks have sent many people to the hospital, and some have died, but the attacks are often carried out in a festive atmosphere. What are called "troubled youths," in this and other contexts, are often in fact young people enjoying themselves greatly by creating big trouble for others.

Some of these many attacks are covered in detail in a book titled "White Girl Bleed A Lot" by Colin Flaherty. It was a phrase that I recognized immediately, from my own previous research.

That phrase was uttered by one of a group of black attackers who descended on a group of whites at a July 4th fireworks show in Milwaukee. But what happened there was not unique, either in itself or in the efforts of police and political authorities to play down what happened -- and to say that race had nothing to do with it.

When the Chicago Tribune was criticized for editing out the race of the attackers in a series of similar organized attacks in Chicago, it replied that race was irrelevant. Yet race is not considered irrelevant when indignantly editorializing on a disproportionate number of young black males arrested and imprisoned.


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Sowell has his own agenda so it isn't unbiased nor do all black folks have the same view of what the issues are for blacks in this country. They are still digging out from the damage done to their families and societies from slavery. Many have different views on how they can fix it. Some is constructive, some is off the wall bat shyte. One thing for sure, whites, who are most definitely ignorant of how to fix these problems reading the blacks who voice their opinions on these problems have very little constructive views to add to the conversation because they can't speak on what they don't know.

The problem with black on white crime for some people is "you do understand their frustration and anger". After observing the white prejudice I have seen against black folks, I personally know I would be in jail for a or a few very heinous crime/s if I were born black in this country. The issue I have is, were they instigated by some racists whites? Most likely yea, just from what I have seen. White racism is the norm in this country. It is taught from birth to whites and isn't identified as racism to the children. These whites go through their life perpetrating these racisms on whoever non white is lucky enough to have to deal with them. It sucks to be non white in this country.



I guess it would be a pretty hard sell to convince people that a black conservative who speaks out against Obama is racist ...Much easier to sell the idea that Thomas Sowell is a biased man pushing "his own" agenda...Making an excuse for black on white crime based on slavery is not only a stretch, it's irrational...The reason we have laws against crime is because criminal acts are inexcusable in a civilized society...Blacks have never had to "dig out" from the damage done by slavery... Whites did (and still do) that for them...Racism in America is not about race as much as it is about an excuse for dodging responsibility...Black liberals cry racism every time the president is criticized...When liberalism fails, liberals cry racism....When the Democratic party gets in trouble, liberals cry racism...Racism exists and will always exist...In spitie of that fact, we live in a nation that has a black (almost) president, a black Attorney General, and a government that is more than happy to legally discriminate against whites on a daily basis...Even so, you can't go one day without hearing liberals whining about what a racist country they live in...It's pitiful....



I feel the same way

cant go one day without hearing conservatives (some of them racist) whining about what a terrible (coincidentally black) president we have and how he is singlehandedly causing Americas demise,,,,


I Agree, it is pitiful


yep, blame it on the black man... after all, it can't just be a MAN thats not doing his job... it's BLACK MAN that everyone hates because he is black thats not doing his job...(i'm hoping you can see the difference there, the sympathy for being black that overrides the "not doing his job" part)

i wonder why i wasn't racist when i didn't like bush either? life's little mysteries, huh...


IM worrying there are drugs involved in this thread

again,, where did I blame anyone for anything?

especially a black man?

if the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it, I seem to recall posting,, there are indeed RACIST Conservatives who fly into paranoia level fearmongering about this president being so EXTREMELY dangerous and detrimental almost SINGLEHANDEDLY to the country

its a ridiculous, illogical claim that, if they haven't leveled it at any other president, is quite probably the result of serious lack of logical thinking (which I don't disregard as a possibility either),, or hatred for his SKIN COLOR (subconscious though it often is)


HE needed to be TWICE As good as any before him , to avoid the daggers that some racists now throw at him for simply not being BETTER than those before him,,,

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Mon 10/28/13 12:34 PM


Funny... I see racism against blacks, and racism against whites. Sexism against men, and sexism against women. The only policy that can be put forth is the requirement that one cannot favor a particular sex/or race, over the other (which is supposedly a law in place). Even this is tough to uphold, as they are mostly based on assumptions. Micromanaging these situations likely result in the reverse effect. A white man and black woman apply for the same job, and have the same credentials. Employer decides to flip a coin and the white man gets a job. Looks like racism, but it's not.

In fact most people i know would hire the black woman for fear of lawsuits. Wouldn't that be racism as well?



and ignorance, as you cant be sued so long as you hire someone who is qualified,,,and there is no EVIDENCE of discrimination against any groups in your hiring

You can be brought to court,which costs money, right? Whether or not you are found guilty...

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Mon 10/28/13 12:35 PM











and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum


um wrong... thinking about robbing a bank is one think... when you plan it out and do everything but the acual robery is still illegal... barry went before congress to get their aproval, and it was denied... looks like someone wanted to rob a bank



I don't think you know what you are talking about,, sorry...

can you show where the president made a request to go to war with Syria

or where there was anything illegal in sending something to congress for approval?



i'm sorry, you'll just have to figure it out on your own...
i can't explain everything to liberals all the time, when i know you know anyway... good luck with that



laugh laugh thought so

let me try one,,, Bush ran over a black woman and caller her a n word,,,


you will have to find the story on your own,, I know you know it anyway,,,

laugh laugh

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Mon 10/28/13 12:37 PM



Funny... I see racism against blacks, and racism against whites. Sexism against men, and sexism against women. The only policy that can be put forth is the requirement that one cannot favor a particular sex/or race, over the other (which is supposedly a law in place). Even this is tough to uphold, as they are mostly based on assumptions. Micromanaging these situations likely result in the reverse effect. A white man and black woman apply for the same job, and have the same credentials. Employer decides to flip a coin and the white man gets a job. Looks like racism, but it's not.

In fact most people i know would hire the black woman for fear of lawsuits. Wouldn't that be racism as well?



and ignorance, as you cant be sued so long as you hire someone who is qualified,,,and there is no EVIDENCE of discrimination against any groups in your hiring

You can be brought to court,which costs money, right? Whether or not you are found guilty...


you can, and it also costs money to the one bringing it to court, especially if they end up not being able to PROVE IT,,,

I don't think that's a priority to most people trying to make an income

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Mon 10/28/13 12:46 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 10/28/13 12:46 PM












and those who have an actual seemingly PERSONAL HATRED for the man, that they haven't had for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy,, which leads me to also believe, being that the only difference is the race, they are driven by RACISM


Apparently, you never noticed all of the PERSONAL HATRED that plenty of liberal Democrats had for President GWB when he was in the Oval Office, hatred that they didn't have for other Presidents merely over a disagreement in policy.



actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,, like, Vietnam for instance

I didn't see an inconsistency in those feelings,,,,

In fact, I mostly saw him ridiculed and made jokes of due to his uncanny knack for fumbling with the English language,,,





i guess obama wanting to burn syria was ok with you then... sounds like you have a conflict with your messiah.. or, what you just posted was a lie...


I don't have a messiah in politics, messiah is perfect, I recognize that no politician is,,,



quite the contrary,


I think his haters were wanting or expecting or demanding a messiah


'wanting' to do something and acquiring sufficient support and evidence to do it , are separate issues


your contradicting yourself... barry wanted to go to war in syria, but yet your ok with it... congress was the only thing that stooped it...and your still ok with barry...

your quote:

"actually, no I didn't,, I think the only thing that came close was hatred over the war,, but those had similar hatred about presidents in the past who went to war,,"

so it's ok to want to go to war, but not to actually do it...whoa


who said IM ok with war in Syria,,,?

when did OBama say he wanted to go to 'war with Syria'?

there is no contradiction of things that were not said

presidents who WENT TO WAR,,,what war did OBama begin,,,?





nonetheless, whether you remember it or not, barry wanted to go help the rebels, which means war, regards of what libs want to call it... the same people we are at war with now, and he's been giving them weapons for a while now, the al quida and the taliban...



yeah, whatever, I wanted to rob a bank, I rethought it and it never happened,,, thinking about it and doing it are different ends of the spectrum


um wrong... thinking about robbing a bank is one think... when you plan it out and do everything but the acual robery is still illegal... barry went before congress to get their aproval, and it was denied... looks like someone wanted to rob a bank



I don't think you know what you are talking about,, sorry...

can you show where the president made a request to go to war with Syria

or where there was anything illegal in sending something to congress for approval?



i'm sorry, you'll just have to figure it out on your own...
i can't explain everything to liberals all the time, when i know you know anyway... good luck with that



laugh laugh thought so

let me try one,,, Bush ran over a black woman and caller her a n word,,,


you will have to find the story on your own,, I know you know it anyway,,,

laugh laugh


i'm not sure why i try to talk to liberals anymore...whoa

here, just for you and your selective memory
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/04/opinion/slaughter-syria-obama/index.html

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Mon 10/28/13 12:48 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/28/13 12:48 PM
ok, so is the

its not that I don't have an answer but that you're a liberal

answer

the liberal card?


laugh laugh

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Mon 10/28/13 12:55 PM

ok, so is the

its not that I don't have an answer but that you're a liberal

answer

the liberal card?


laugh laugh


another lib tactic to avoid the conversation by acting dumb? nice try, but i knew that you were trying to derail the question, when you never wanted to answer it in the first place...

you can't/won't admit to being a hypocrite...

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Mon 10/28/13 12:57 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/28/13 12:58 PM


ok, so is the

its not that I don't have an answer but that you're a liberal

answer

the liberal card?


laugh laugh


another lib tactic to avoid the conversation by acting dumb? nice try, but i knew that you were trying to derail the question, when you never wanted to answer it in the first place...

you can't/won't admit to being a hypocrite...


we are going deeper and deeper into the twilight zone,, from the one who twice now has given no answer except that he has no time to answer a liberal,,,,lol

so which question posed was not answered, Im not at all the type to do that,,,, I have no problem saying I don't know,,or looking it up,,,

unless I don't see the question


what was this question? and how am I being a hypocrite?

Bush started a war, OBama asked for permission to use military force BUT used diplomacy instead,,,,




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Mon 10/28/13 01:05 PM




Funny... I see racism against blacks, and racism against whites. Sexism against men, and sexism against women. The only policy that can be put forth is the requirement that one cannot favor a particular sex/or race, over the other (which is supposedly a law in place). Even this is tough to uphold, as they are mostly based on assumptions. Micromanaging these situations likely result in the reverse effect. A white man and black woman apply for the same job, and have the same credentials. Employer decides to flip a coin and the white man gets a job. Looks like racism, but it's not.

In fact most people i know would hire the black woman for fear of lawsuits. Wouldn't that be racism as well?



and ignorance, as you cant be sued so long as you hire someone who is qualified,,,and there is no EVIDENCE of discrimination against any groups in your hiring

You can be brought to court,which costs money, right? Whether or not you are found guilty...


you can, and it also costs money to the one bringing it to court, especially if they end up not being able to PROVE IT,,,

I don't think that's a priority to most people trying to make an income


I Suppose it depends on the jury... One can bring a case based on emotion. And emotion can win a jury... Remember some of the claims about the Zimmerman/Travon case?

You, yourself have even been quoted saying about our current president; if one disapproves our current president while supporting another with the same policy, then racism is a logical assumption. Yet, one big difference between our president and the predecessors to him is not just race, but political party....